# Hello - My first order - first impressions and question **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [June 14, 2013, 7:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-first-order-first-impressions-and-question/59305 "2013-06-14T07:30:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![azthral](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@azthral](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/azthral)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 7:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-first-order-first-impressions-and-question/59305/1 "2013-06-14T07:30:26Z")
Male, 33 years old from the UK. Got my first order of [pheromones](https://a314.com/) a couple of days back - A314, Ammo, TUTH, IO, IH and a free sample of P13! I notice the social effects of IO (1 spray only!). That one has been great and really seems to work brilliantly! Tried a bit of TUTH on a wrist to check the smell and it actually had effects on me (surprised as I thought it only affected women)! Have also used A314 and today I’m wearing Ammo but not sure about the effects of those ones. Have to try them with no IO. IO works so well that I end up not noticing if A314 or Ammo did anything. Also may have to up the dose slowly as I only used 2 drops of A314 and today 1 spray of Ammo. Impressed with how good the products smell. Only point that wasn’t great so far was some leakage from the IO and IH - the package really smelled like perfume due to the spilled IO and IH when DHL delivered it. This only happened with the togo bottles and it’s a shame as now I don’t trust them to be in my pocket on a night out so I can’t top up. Given the results from IO I’m going to use my 25$ voucher for a bottle of IS and one of P83 (no more togos or I’ll lose half the liquid inside the DHL package). IO and TUTH made me think that there is merit to pheromones so I’ll spend a bit more to be 100% sure I’m giving this pheromone thing an honest chance. IS should be one of those that really proves they work. When I get a feeling for how they work I’ll have a go at P130 so I can review it (suppose that’s why I was sent that one). Question: One thing I need is something that will make women to take more of the innitiative when it comes to asking out for dates. I’m outgoing, socially aware, etc. My only issue is that I don’t have much courage to take the step of asking them out. Most times it’s women I’ve known for a while and I just don’t want to risk it as I see them all the time. Would P83 be the correct one to get the woman to take that innitiative or make some kind of move? Thanks!!! ---
**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 7:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-first-order-first-impressions-and-question/59305/2 "2013-06-14T07:51:54Z")
First, togo bottles leak, especially in shipping, it just happens, only time I get them is if I’m trying a pheromone I haven’t before and don’t want to commit to an entire bottle. Pheromones are only going to amplify what a person would naturally want to do, I don’t know of ones with good results for making women more likely to make a move, not that one might not exist I’m just unaware of any Androtics products known for that. I suggest you read [An Introduction to Mones; Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Length of](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003) as well as [What pheromones can do and what they cant Updated](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558) if you haven’t already. > [@](#): > > The pheromones will give you a edge but they will not do it all for you. Pheromones help to give you more of a opportunity, a opening, but you need to make the effort. ---
**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 8:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-first-order-first-impressions-and-question/59305/3 "2013-06-14T08:05:53Z")
Hey Az, Welcome to the forum. For courage, I would go with A314 or [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). The self effects are awesome. But you gotta back it up with something my man. Like any fear, to get over it, you must face it. Dive in there! Just start with a compliment like “cool shoes” or “wow, you smell nice, what is that?” And take it from there. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![JoelS57](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/joels57/32/1777_2.png) [@JoelS57](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JoelS57)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 8:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-first-order-first-impressions-and-question/59305/4 "2013-06-14T08:22:52Z")
“One thing I need is something that will make women to take more of the innitiative when it comes to asking out for dates” Even I , a newbie, can answer this one. 1 You are the man 2 You are the man 3 You are the man 4 You are the man 5 You are the man Do you see where I am going with this ? 🙂 CelticPrince says …you gotta back it up with something my man. Like any fear, to get over it, you must face it. Dive in there!. ---
**Author:** ![azthral](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@azthral](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/azthral)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 8:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-first-order-first-impressions-and-question/59305/5 "2013-06-14T08:28:25Z")
Thanks guys! You’re right! Got a bit carried away with how well IO worked. Got to keep in mind that in all parts most of the work is still up to me. No product will replace part of the process. Will read the links and do my best to have some more courage to take the risk. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 8:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-first-order-first-impressions-and-question/59305/6 "2013-06-14T08:54:10Z")
Did I read it right that you were using IO and A314 at the same time? If so, try using one or the other as these two counteract each other rather effectively. Also, A314 takes time to deliver the goods -esp in oil. Give it an extended sweet spot trial of at least a month - One dose for three days, break for a day or so, then a different dose for the next three days and so-on. Eventually you will find what works in different situations and you may have some adapting to it yourself. Similarly, because of its overtness, TUTH can be more difficult to get to grips with compared to other pheros - It often won’t get results until you get into uninhibited situations or till you are around people already very comfortable with you. ---
**Author:** ![JoelS57](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/joels57/32/1777_2.png) [@JoelS57](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JoelS57)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 9:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-first-order-first-impressions-and-question/59305/7 "2013-06-14T09:13:28Z")
> [@azthral](#): > > Thanks guys! You’re right! > Got a bit carried away with how well IO worked. > > Got to keep in mind that in all parts most of the work is still up to me. No product will replace part of the process. > > Will read the links and do my best to have some more courage to take the risk. Edit : Got to keep in mind that in all parts ALL of the work is still up to me. No product will replace ANY of the process. Once you get used to the mones, and you start working on improving your appearance you will begin to experience an improvement in your state of mind. It has taken me some time. Feels good, you will see. ---
**Author:** ![azthral](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@azthral](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/azthral)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 9:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-first-order-first-impressions-and-question/59305/8 "2013-06-14T09:17:51Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Did I read it right that you were using IO and A314 at the same time? > > If so, try using one or the other as these two counteract each other rather effectively. > > Also, A314 takes time to deliver the goods -esp in oil. Give it an extended sweet spot trial of at least a month - One dose for three days, break for a day or so, then a different dose for the next three days and so-on. Eventually you will find what works in different situations and you may have some adapting to it yourself. Similarly, because of its overtness, TUTH can be more difficult to get to grips with compared to other pheros - It often won’t get results until you get into uninhibited situations or till you are around people already very comfortable with you. Yes, was using them together. Thanks for letting me know! Had no idea that A314 was not a good mix with IO. Changing my work usage to A314 by itself! Will follow the advice on the TUTH! Was planning on using it tonight with Ammo. I’ll drop the TUTH and just use a small dose of Ammo then. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2013, 9:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-first-order-first-impressions-and-question/59305/9 "2013-06-14T09:29:05Z")
Re-read the store page - **All of it!** Its there in black and white that IO is the product to tone-down A314. TUTH is useful with Ammo in the right situations - ie clubs and raunchy parties etc. An equal amount of TUTH/Ammo simply raises the none to other pheros proportion to 2:1:1 (plus some discrete sexual steering), which is very much in line with some of the competition. I tend to start an night out with something like Ammo or a more socia-leaning mix, then increase its sexual nature with an application of TUTH when we hit a club. Also IO and IO/IS are good ones for making TUTH more usable in public but again its still fairly overt. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-first-order-first-impressions-and-question/59305/10 "2013-06-25T20:38:37Z")
Don’t forget, any time you are using a new product, you must try it by itself before layering it with another product. Otherwise, you won’t have a good idea of what it actually does. Once you get a feel for it by itself, then you can better know what to combine it with, and in what quantities. As far as the self-effects with TUTH, there is a big difference between how you react when you smell it on yourself versus how you might react if you smelled it on a girl. On yourself, you are identifying yourself as the source. Therefore, your brain is telling yourself, “yeah! I’m feelin randy!” But if you smelled a masculine sex phero on a girl, you might think something like, “she’s just been with a guy” or “she’s strangely masculine.” ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 4:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-first-order-first-impressions-and-question/59305/11 "2013-06-26T16:02:43Z")
Welcome Azthral, This is a super informal and not so tailored response if you will. I would luuuuuuuv to spend more time assisting you especially since you are a newbie. We are short staffed and these gift certificates are done manually. It takes a great deal and I am back logged. I am hoping that when I catch up on my work, I can start answering these intro threads the way I use to In fact, I am hoping that soon, someone more experienced than me can come in so I get to do what I am great at, customer service. Thank you for giving pheromones a chance. Your gc was issued!