# Hello my name is Androgyn **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [November 17, 2008, 11:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-name-is-androgyn/22994 "2008-11-17T23:36:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Androgyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@Androgyn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Androgyn)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 11:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-name-is-androgyn/22994/1 "2008-11-17T23:36:31Z")
Hello everybody, im here becouse i find the idea using pheromons very powerfull. I had know about pheromones earyer,but i’d never tried it. I have searched for products on google, then i found the monies website through another forum.😛 Im from Hungary, im a 21 year old gay young ‘kid’ ,who is kind and mindful. I have many sides, sometimes im a party center,silly persone, then sometimes i feel lonely and being philosophical. Why i want to use pheromoens?😃 -Well at first, i want to attact other mens,becouse im single i didnt had any serious realtionships longer than 1 month! ☹ But i think who uses pheremones didn’t let whitout a partner in a few time. Most of the products for gays,is building a ‘masculine, macho’ aura, but i dont want to define my self as a maleish character,but a kind solid person who is alway there to listen others. And also in my life i have attractaed and attracted to (all the time) to bi guys, so i have already ordered a product which is normally for females 😛, Pheromore-F, i dont know what will hapen, im so excited, you may think it will be a trap, cuz they will think im a girl, but i think the bi-s and some guys will respond. -The other thing is that im a really shy person. I have social-phobia sometimes, and i want to improve my social life, to beeing more confident person, to be the center of the group like a leader or a Popstar:o. Can anyone give advice which product will help to build a confident aura for me? Which will attract attention, and gain trust and RESPECT from both mens and womens? Some kind of dominant aura,but not masculine one rather than unisex or girly one? 🆒 I think i will order [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), and Istant Openess, but im open for other ideas, for more complexed mixes. I will report my experience about the outcomes when i start useing them. Im waiting for your anwser,and have a good day, with lots of “HITS” . Bye! 😃😃 ---
**Author:** ![magnum](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/magnum/32/1423_2.png) [@magnum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magnum)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 11:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-name-is-androgyn/22994/2 "2008-11-17T23:41:11Z")
Hi Androgyn, welcome to the forum! you have already made a good choice of products to improve confidence and conversation. To attract gays the product Mystery Boy is available here - have you already seen it? You can combine it with Instant Shine and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) (or Honesty) to get good results for your situation… I would also recommend that you buy Instant Honesty which is great for bonding and to gain trust from others… better than Openness for that purpose You could also try some of the females products available here but i cannot give recommendations on those - maybe tisha can help… please look up mystery boy here: > [@I've always wondered:Mystery Boy](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ive-always-wondered-mystery-boy/345/2): > > Bi-Curious, are you? wink Gay men like men, so “male” pheromones tend to be as attractive to gay men, as they are to hetero women. HOWEVER, the gay culture is very unlike hetero culture. Our gay testers reported increased attraction with most of our male products – including A314 – but with unwanted side effects, including acts of male aggression. Not the kind of male aggression they actually want. Gay men may be sexually aggressive with each other, but we’ve been told that bar fights an… > [@Mens Pheromone Guide revised 6/15](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mens-pheromone-guide-revised-6-15/12168): > > Revised for 2010/11 Common question thread Ok I had to put the guide in this section of the forum because the men’s have way to many stickies now and I didn’t want to add another there. So anyways I got quite a few requests to do a men’s guide and I am flattered but want you to all know upfront that without all the wonderful postings on pheromones by the experienced men I would never been able to write this. Men’s Pheromone guide I have gotten a few requests for a men’s Pheromone guide an… have fun here magnum ---
**Author:** ![chicagokid1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@chicagokid1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chicagokid1)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 11:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-name-is-androgyn/22994/3 "2008-11-17T23:47:31Z")
Hey Androgyn welcome to the board buddy, I think you might like instant honesty, it adds a bit of comfort which allows others to have deep conversations with you. Its funny but people seem to open up on a deeper level with you when i wear it. Im not really sure how masculine mystery boy is, but its made for those active in the gay lifestyle. Even though the [putative pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/putative-pheromones/) are typically for more experienced users you might consider p74. I like your idea of the instant shine, its a good one. I wish the best of luck.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 12:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-name-is-androgyn/22994/4 "2008-11-18T00:11:55Z")
Hi Androgyn, welcome to the forum. I agree with the suggestions that have already been made by magnum and CK1. I feel the big one for you is Ishine. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) will also help you, it encourages chattiness. Finally, there’s Mystery Boy, which the other guys have also mentioned. All should serve you well. Make sure to read the sticky threads in the Men’s section for additional tips. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-name-is-androgyn/22994/5 "2008-11-18T02:53:01Z")
> [@Androgyn](#): > > Most of the products for gays,is building a ‘masculine, macho’ aura, but **i dont want to define my self as a maleish character,but a kind solid person who is alway there to listen others.** > > -The other thing is that im a really shy person. I have social-phobia sometimes, and i want to improve my social life, to beeing more confident person, to be the center of the group like a leader or a Popstar:o. **The first two products that come to mind are [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) and Instant Honesty. Instant Gentleman is ‘maleish’ but not in a macho way, more of a calm, smooth way.** That other one sounds like Instant Shine to me. Alternatively, you might want to consider getting test molecules TAH and TAL to soften the ‘maleness’ of some of the products like Instant Gentleman. And of course, there is always Mystery Boy as others have mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 10:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-name-is-androgyn/22994/6 "2008-11-18T10:37:18Z")
Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 Mystery boy is a mix of male and female mones. Its not overly masculine and perfect for what your described you wanted. I think IO and Ishine are great choices as well. IG is not aggressive but it is masculine but if you use something like TAL or TAH with it which you can get small to-go bottles it will soften it up more. TAH would be more soft then TAL which has a alpha female vibe. If you have questions just ask. **Your GC is on its way** 😃 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![mcqueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@mcqueen](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mcqueen)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 3:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-name-is-androgyn/22994/7 "2009-01-18T03:12:49Z")
> [@Androgyn](#): > > Hello everybody, im here becouse i find the idea using pheromons very powerfull. I had know about pheromones earyer,but i’d never tried it. I have searched for products on google, then i found the monies website through another forum.😛 > Im from Hungary, im a 21 year old gay young ‘kid’ ,who is kind and mindful. > I have many sides, sometimes im a party center,silly persone, then sometimes i feel lonely and being philosophical. > Why i want to use pheromoens?😃 > > -Well at first, i want to attact other mens,becouse im single i didnt had any serious realtionships longer than 1 month! ☹ > But i think who uses pheremones didn’t let whitout a partner in a few time. > > Most of the products for gays,is building a ‘masculine, macho’ aura, but i dont want to define my self as a maleish character,but a kind solid person who is alway there to listen others. And also in my life i have attractaed and attracted to (all the time) to bi guys, so i have already ordered a product which is normally for females 😛, Pheromore-F, i dont know what will hapen, im so excited, you may think it will be a trap, cuz they will think im a girl, but i think the bi-s and some guys will respond. > > -The other thing is that im a really shy person. I have social-phobia sometimes, and i want to improve my social life, to beeing more confident person, to be the center of the group like a leader or a Popstar:o. > > Can anyone give advice which product will help to build a confident aura for me? Which will attract attention, and gain trust and RESPECT from both mens and womens? Some kind of dominant aura,but not masculine one rather than unisex or girly one? 🆒 > > I think i will order Instant Shine, and Istant Openess, but im open for other ideas, for more complexed mixes. > > I will report my experience about the outcomes when i start useing them. > > Im waiting for your anwser,and have a good day, with lots of “HITS” . > Bye! 😃 hello there i just wanted to know if you have already ordered some [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/), im replying to your msg because i think we have a lot of things in common, im 21, gay and i havent being in a long relationship, and i am also very chatty and funny but only with girls, im shy with the boys haha, and sometimes i tend to isolate from everyone and feel “philosophical” like you said. I can relate to your situation 100% haha. So keep us posted, i ordered my mystery boy on friday and i will be reporting my experience of it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 3:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-my-name-is-androgyn/22994/8 "2009-01-18T03:24:53Z")
> [@Androgyn](#): > > And also in my life i have attractaed and attracted to (all the time) to bi guys, so i have already ordered a product which is normally for females 😛, Pheromore-F, Hi Androgyn. I may be wrong but I’m pretty sure that pheromone-F, if by that you mean TAF, is generally considered to be a molecule for both males and females. TAL and TAH are considered female pheromones. As Phya and Tisha say, you might do well to try one of those products out (check the women’s forum for threads). The buzzwords for TAF, IIRC, are things like “focus”, “concentration”, “task-oriented” etc. IMHO an [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)/P74 combination could be an interesting attraction combo that can be worn by anyone of any gender or sexual orientation; it seemed to me to be a very flexible thing.