# Hello need advise **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [November 5, 2007, 1:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413 "2007-11-05T01:53:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Neutron](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/neutron/32/2147_2.png) [@Neutron](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Neutron)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 1:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413/1 "2007-11-05T01:53:36Z")
Hello, I am a 22 year old male in the Army stationed at Fort Carson Colorado. I am of Mexican and German decent LOL I know odd mix eh. I was Born in raised in Dry and hot Phoenix Arizona but I am now living in dry and cold Colorado Springs. I was recently suckered into purchasing the Pherlure Cologne. I am physically active in the early morning with physical training but find my self working indoors through out the day. I am a tad bit over my recommended weight but under my over weight limits. I found this web site by looking for more reviews and information for Pherlure. It was on the right side column on my Google search. I am really glad I have found this forum with very kind and knowledgeable people. The reason I am here is to get help with my relationship issues with women. Well my main problem is that I am too shy. I grew up for most of my life as the only child raised my my grandmother thus I lived the solitary geek life. Needless to day I don’t have much social experiance with the girls. But during High school I got much more exposure. I have many close girl friends but they see me more as “the guy to trust and talk to” the “brother figure” I guess I give off the vibe of trust and comfort but I have a hard time pushing it in the physical relationship realm. They have all told me that I am very attractive, especially in uniform, but they don’t really see me as the kind of person to have a physical relationship with. I want something that can attract the girls to me and help take it a step further into the the bed room 😉 and maybe actually build a relationship. I guess I want something that pherlure promised me. I also work in a very competitive environment for promotion. It seems that the Soldiers that are well liked get promoted where as the quiet shy guy does not. I desire more confidence and the ability to track women… Sorry for the long post. Thanks in advanced for advise. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 2:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413/2 "2007-11-05T02:55:41Z")
Hi Neutron Welcome to the forum 🙂 What Pherlure promises is alot of hype. pheromones can help to enhance your personality but thong clad women wont chase ya down the street. Well I may but that has nothing to do with pheromones LOL Just teasing 😉 That being said… I think some [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) would be good for you. Instant Openness and Instant Honesty are great ice breakers that attract attention. Instant Shine would also be good. Its a mood enhancer and also attracts attention. It go’s well with alot of other products as well. Ammo will help attract the ladies. This is the one the would be the closet to what pherlure hyped ya with. This is a favorite in your age group. Its sexy and gives you a edge. If you get Ammo go slow with it. It contains Androstenone which can make other men competitive and aggressive but only if you wear way to much of it. Read the stickies in the mens section. This will help you decide which ones you want to try. We look forward to your participation 🙂 Tish ---
**Author:** ![Neutron](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/neutron/32/2147_2.png) [@Neutron](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Neutron)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413/3 "2007-11-05T03:07:47Z")
Wow thank you for the quick reply. I will take your advice. I was looking at eh [smartmones.com](http://smartmones.com) web site and was interested in the to go size products. Is it worth the money. About how much does it contain. The site does not say much to how much use I can get out of the little bottles. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 3:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413/4 "2007-11-05T03:17:23Z")
Hi & Welcome Neutron The to go sized are a great way to get a feel for the products and find out which ones work best for you. They’ll last for about 40 sprays, plenty enough to get a good feel if you’re testing from 1 spray and working your way up. Enjoy! ---
**Author:** ![Neutron](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/neutron/32/2147_2.png) [@Neutron](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Neutron)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 3:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413/5 "2007-11-05T03:29:38Z")
Thank you for the reply Inkling, I am not going to lie I am very weary of purchasing one of these products. I was already scammed with Phurlure according to this forum. I do believe the science but do these actually work. I have read many of the threads that detail promising results. I am about to purchase some to go phermones from the site but I want to feel comfortable buying them. I don’t want to waste my money again. Please give me an opinion from the heart if these products are worth my money… :o ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413/6 "2007-11-05T03:44:23Z")
Just another reason to go with the to go sizes first Neutron. That way you’re not spending a fortune for a product you’re unsure of. I wear most of my [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) for _me_. Instant honesty and instant openness help me to be a more talkative and friendly person. I would define myself as a quiet person and sometimes that makes it difficult to socialize outside of my family and friends. The products I use help me, but they sure are fun to use around other people too. If you’re going to purchase I suggest one of the products mentioned above combined with ammunition. In addition to that if you’ve read the return policy and product descriptions you’ll see that Androtics really stands behind their products and do not make those outrageous false claims. With your gift certificate 2 or 3 to goes won’t be that expensive. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 3:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413/7 "2007-11-05T03:54:52Z")
Nuetron, Hey welcome to the forum. I can understand your skepticism, but let me ask you one question: How much has your shyness cost you over the years in missed opportunities, and how much unhappiness by being told that “they don’t really see me as the kind of person to have a physical relationship with?” I can attest from firsthand experience that these produts do work, and there are hundreds, maybe even thousands of other users in this forum, who are using these products and having success with them. Think about it, if the products did not work, would we still be here. The products recommended by Tish, and reiterated by Inkling would be an excellent starting point for you. And hey, smartmones offers a 200% money back guarantee if the products do not work for you. You have absolutely nothing to lose, except for the inability to be the kind of man you want to be with women! I might also suggest Turn Up The Heat (TUTH) for getting the girls into the bedroom. I realy think you’ll be amazed! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 4:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413/8 "2007-11-05T04:03:38Z")
I agree with inkling here. Wait to get your GC. Steveo will be around soon and email it to you. This way your getting 1 to-go free. > [@](#): > > I don’t want to waste my money again. Please give me an opinion from the heart if these products are worth my money… :o Yes the pheromones here at Androtics do work better then the rest of them out there. Its why this forum and store are so busy. No I dont work here LOL Just keep in mind that they are not as Instant as the word on the bottle implies. You have to do a little testing to find the best dose and application points for you. Sometimes you need to let it mesh a little with your natural pheromone signature. What pheromones can do for you… Give you confidence, an edge, up your sexuality, influence arousal, make you and others more outgoing, lose some inhibitions, attract attention, Give you a aura of authority and respect, make people feel happy and comfortable aound you. Some of these reactions will come from the self effects and some will come from them effecting those around you. What they wont do… Make girls have sex with you that have no intention of having any, Make people do things that is not part of there nature, Make you look like George Clooney, [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) will not make a person tell the truth Only you can decide if its worth your money. Keep a open mind and give them a chance and I know you will be pleased. If you need any help or have any questions on how to use them correctly and to the best advantage we are all here to help. Bet ya wish you had that help over at Pherlure. Oh and dont feel bad before most of us found this place they got us to LOL. ---
**Author:** ![Neutron](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/neutron/32/2147_2.png) [@Neutron](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Neutron)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 4:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413/9 "2007-11-05T04:52:10Z")
Wow yes I do wish I had this kind of service at Pherlure. I thank you all for your advise. I truly to appreciate it! I am going to wait for my CG and buy Turn Up the Heat, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Instant Shine, Ammunition to go bottles and of course Alpha A314. Is this a good combo… Am I missing anything? ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 5:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413/10 "2007-11-05T05:03:33Z")
At your age I would chance a guess you could skip Turn up the heat. You’re young and producing lots of androstenone right now, adding turn up the heat might be over kill. If you do go for it I would suggest only applying once you’re in a relationship and wanting to display a strong sexual signature. Sorry to say it Mark, but you’re much older than Neutron and not producing the amount of androstenone that he is. That is why it is such a good product for you. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 5:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413/11 "2007-11-05T05:24:12Z")
Alright Inkling, another rub at my age huh, lol. I suggested the TUTH for Neutron because he said that he wanted things to move into the bedroom and I figured it could help. I also thought of the TUTH because of what he said about women telling him that they didn’t see him as the kind of person to have a physical relationship with. I completely agree that I produce less [androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/), testosterone and lots of other goodies than I did when I was 21, but with the wonders of science and [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/), I can still do pretty well 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413/12 "2007-11-05T19:03:06Z")
Mark, I am sure Inkling was not poking at your age. Besides I dont think your old. Our generation is different then the past ones. 45 is the new 35 That makes me 31 😉 Add mones to that equation and before you know it it will be like your in your 20’s 😃 Fun Fun Fun Inkling is just trying to save Neutron from a Anone OD. Men 25 and younger need to go easier on the anone because they produce alot of it naturely. Its a very aggressive mone and if you overdo men can react to you like your a threat. He is in the army surrounded mostly by men. He is half Latin, they tend to make more anone. Happens with the girls to. The younger ladies dont need as much copulins as the older ladies. They make plenty on there own. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413/13 "2007-11-05T19:26:29Z")
Hey Tish, Inkling knows my comment was all in jest. It goes back to our conversation on my original post. If 45 is the new 35, does that mean women under 28 are now jailbait, or 38 with phermones thrown into the equation? 🙂 Man, if that’s the case I’m sure glad I’m not 25 anymore, otherwise I’d have to date women over 40 just to be safe. I do try to inject a bit of humour from time to time, when it seems appropriate to do so. Hope this doesn’t offend anyone. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 7:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413/14 "2007-11-05T19:31:19Z")
> [@](#): > > I do try to inject a bit of humour from time to time, when it seems appropriate to do so. Hope this doesn’t offend anyone. LOL Your not offending anyone. Have you read some of my posts. I am more likely to offend before you 😛 I blame it all on the mones 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 7:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413/15 "2007-11-05T19:34:21Z")
Yea Tish I read several of your posts and threads. Had to do so and see what you were all about after our talk on Tonka’s thread, I like your style, and think we’ll probably be running into each other a lot here. Mark ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413/16 "2007-11-05T19:42:21Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Yea Tish I read several of your posts and threads. Had to do so and see what you were all about after our talk on Tonka’s thread, I like your style, and think we’ll probably be running into each other a lot here. > > Mark Whoo Look you didnt even get your mones yet and already your turning into a Bad Boy. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413/17 "2007-11-05T19:49:41Z")
Hey Tish, I got my pheromones last week before I joined the forum, and didn’t even pick up the [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/), so I was already that way 🙂 Love the bad boy inferrence though, it works so much better than the nice guy wimp that I used to be. ---
**Author:** ![Neutron](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/neutron/32/2147_2.png) [@Neutron](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Neutron)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 8:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413/18 "2007-11-05T20:00:34Z")
LOL I wish I had [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) in High School. It seemed the more of a jerk you were the more girls you got. Me on the other hand just smelled like burning silicon from working with computers in my computer class! But now I have a uniform that makes me look manlier and hopefully soon smell manlier as well… 😛 I wonder if the Geeks in Beauty and the Geeks used pheromones 😕 ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 8:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413/19 "2007-11-05T20:41:58Z")
From the few times that I watched Beauty and the Geek, I think those guys were to scared of woman to want to attract them, LOL. I actually think what they are doing is pretty awesome though, they all seem to leave with a better outlook and perspective on life, than what they showed up with, and that goes for both the men and the women. You are dead on with the jerks in high school comment though. It goes well with the bad boy attitude. I do know that women love guys in uniforms though, and if you still carry the burning silicon scent, maybe you can try to pass that off as the remnants of a really hot sex session 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2007, 1:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413/20 "2007-11-06T01:24:42Z")
OK I almost had to hunker down in the storm cellar. Tornado’s are scary shizz and I refuse to be Dorothy in Ozz. Although she was kind of cute. OK now that the storm has passed as no major problems may I suggest some CTTM. From reading some old MHarris posts it just seems as archaic a product it is all you have to do is say hi and the conversation takes off. Although Tish, Inkling, Mark are all right about the IO and IH. Those product will get similar results. A lot of IO for psycho nonsensical Babble with a tad bit of IH to keep that babble in check and more of quality. Either way there are a lot of good posts on both. I also suggest you go to the mens stickies and read Mad Tater Journal. A big advocate of CTTM, but he can also enlighten you about a lot of other products as well. GC is on its way via radioactive Killer rabbit from the movie Night of the Lepus. Adorable bunny rabbits dripping blood from their fangs. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-advise/6413.md?page=2)