# Hello! Need some advice... **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [May 5, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-some-advice/28666 "2009-05-05T02:21:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![chrisloo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chrisloo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chrisloo)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-some-advice/28666/1 "2009-05-05T02:21:48Z")
So my name’s Chris, I’m 18, turning 19 in a couple weeks, and I just finished my freshman year of university. I’m from Vancouver, and I know the clubbing scene isn’t too great here, but I’m still excited to start going once I’m legal. Coming from an all boys private high school, I’m pretty shy when meeting new girls. I almost never talk to a girl unless she talks to me first, or is a friend of a friend. It seems like girls have no problem approaching and initiating conversations with me, but when we start talking they seem to become shy, and this sucks because I’m a shy person too. I actually just discovered pheromones today, while watching Oceans thirteen haha, and I did a google search which led me to this website, and [androticsdirect.com](http://androticsdirect.com). I’m really hoping that pheromones will help me to become more social with girls, and perhaps help me get a girlfriend. I have dated before, however I haven’t been very successful with developing relationships. I was thinking of purchasing A314, Turn up the heat, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), and Instant openness to get me started. If you guys have any suggestions or advice for me, I’d greatly appreciate it! ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 2:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-some-advice/28666/2 "2009-05-05T02:36:04Z")
Hi Chris, Welcome to the forum. For your case, try IO, Shine and IH. IO will open up girls and make them want to talk to you. You will enjoy more light conversation. IH will make the conversation last longer. It makes them talk more meaningful and eeper with you. They will feel they have known you for long time. SHine is to boost your confidence and counter your shyness. Good luck ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-some-advice/28666/3 "2009-05-05T02:40:59Z")
Hello and welcome to the forum. You ust have to rememer that real pheors work nothing like the movies. For a good read on what you can really expect you should read the first thread in my signature block. I basically agree with JB. I think the IO and Ishine are great products for you. The IO will help with those initial conversations and the Ishine will leave everyone around you feeling happy. I would give some [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) a thought instead of the A314. The A314 gives off a heavy alpha leader vibe. This often does not really help a guy your age with his peers and inparticular girls. IG will give you a cool smooth vibe. As a result it will often make young guys seem a little older. Good luck and let us know what you think. ---
**Author:** ![Maromi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/maromi/32/809_2.png) [@Maromi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maromi)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 2:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-some-advice/28666/4 "2009-05-05T02:49:49Z")
Hey, Thats really funny, because a lot of people actually ended up here after watching that movie lol. I think you have some great choices there already, but I would suggest that rather then Turn Up the Heat you get some Ammo or [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) instead. [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) is better for older guys. Turn Up the Heat is a good one if you are already in a relationship, because it’s more sexual and intense. Instant Openness Is a great choice for you, because it should help you open up more to girls. Instant Shine is an excellent choice as it will give you the extra confidence and draw people to you. Hope that helped some! Tiffany ---
**Author:** ![wilks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f475e1/32.png) [@wilks](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wilks)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 4:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-some-advice/28666/5 "2009-05-05T04:07:39Z")
The forum experts tend to steer younger guys away from TUTH. Your body should produce enough “sex” pheromones on its own, and TUTH can cause you to overdose, getting all sorts of unintended reactions. I went to an all male private high school, so I can see where you’re coming from. I love Ammo + IO as a combo and think it might be a good start for you. Take some time and read the links in Tisha’s signature. They’ll help you get a better understanding for what phero’s can and can’t do. But buyer beware: The biggest difference you can make will be adjusting your behaviorisms. Putting a suit on a guy won’t make him more attractive to women all on its own. The suit has to fit his personality, be the right size for his body and the right suit needs to be worn in the right occasions. Phero’s are similar. Wearing a [social pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) like [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and then sitting in a corner playing on your cell phone won’t do you much good. Bathing with an entire bottle of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) won’t draw people in like you’re wearing a social magnet. So I’d encourage you to expand yourself socially as well. Pheros are there to give you an edge, but you have to do a lot of the legwork as well. It’s no panacea, but it’s no snake oil either. Take some time and experiment. The forums are here to help if you get stuck. Oh, and start out with some lighter stuff before moving onto A314. It’s not for everyone, and you should have a good understanding for what you’re doing before you should try that product. (It also puts a bit of a social bubble around you…not the best way to get attention.) ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 9:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-some-advice/28666/6 "2009-05-05T09:15:07Z")
Hello Chris, Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 I suggest you hold off on the A314 and the TUTH, A314 can cause some distancing for shy people TUTH is for a sexually charged environment or situation. Its not appropriate in every setting. Go with AMMO Ishine and IO AMMO will increase sex appeal and attract attention Ishine will draw people to you IO will increase socialization and add comfort. If you have any questions just ask. **Your GC is on its way** Tisha Hostess/Guide ---
**Author:** ![chrisloo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chrisloo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chrisloo)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 11:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-need-some-advice/28666/7 "2009-05-05T11:11:01Z")
Thanks for all the help/suggestions! I went ahead and ordered IO, IS, and AMMO. Can’t wait for them to get here…hope I don’t get raped on duty fees!