# Hello- never use phermones before

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-never-use-phermones-before/25632>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [February 1, 2009, 12:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-never-use-phermones-before/25632 "2009-02-01T12:19:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![YEN\_TRAN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/c57346/32.png) [@YEN\_TRAN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/YEN_TRAN)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 12:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-never-use-phermones-before/25632/1 "2009-02-01T12:19:31Z")

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Tom, 40, from LA, Cal.

Just recently broke up with my girlfriend of 9 years and starting to explore dating again. I did research and this seem interesting. Does this work is my questions? I am giving it a try. I will write more once I start using it. 🙂

As I was reading other posts, I notice that the replies were asking for more info to assit the new member so I decided to add more info to my 1st post.

About me:  
I am Asian and fairly average looking. I had a couple of serious relationships in the past. I have a hard time approaching strangers, especially pretty girls. I did sales once so I’ve taken classes about the Law of Average, where it takes so many attempts to get a sale, and I know I can apply that concept in dating. Both of my exs were introduced to me by mutual friends, so we were not really strangers.

I am thinking about purchasing all of the products and testing each out indivually while noting results. Then I’d doing combo tests similiar to other members here. I do have a lot of time on my hands now and can be as creative as I want. I feel like it’s a science project I did in highschool.

I’ve watched various dating advice video on youtube and found some to be interesting. Please give me some inputs as to the “game”.

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**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 12:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-never-use-phermones-before/25632/2 "2009-02-01T12:29:22Z")

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> [@YEN\_TRAN](#):
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> Tom, 40, from LA, Cal.
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> Just recently broke up with my girlfriend of 9 years and starting to explore dating again. I did research and this seem interesting. Does this work is my questions? I am giving it a try. I will write more once I start using it. 🙂

HI and welcome to the forum!

This is a very friendly community, and there’s plenty of info to read in the threads 🙂

Can you tell us a bit more about yourself, your personality? Are you shy, outgoing, chatty? It’ll help us point you in the right direction when suggesting phero’s to try.

Also, you mentioned you are back on the dating market? Is romance your main objective for using phero’s? What are you hoping to use them for? General social situations, work?

If you tell us a bit more about yourself we can give you some suggestions of phero’s to try. 🙂

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**Author:** ![YEN\_TRAN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/c57346/32.png) [@YEN\_TRAN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/YEN_TRAN)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-never-use-phermones-before/25632/3 "2009-02-01T13:24:18Z")

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Hi, they will be for mostly dating purposes. But I would like to have the ability to use them at work when I need to. Any advice would help?

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**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-never-use-phermones-before/25632/4 "2009-02-01T13:49:09Z")

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Hi Yen,

You edited your original post and added that you plan to get all products and test them all? I’d not do that if I were you. I know you say you have the time, but if you test phero’s properly (in a scientific way like you mentioned) then you need to test each phero on it’s own, in different doses, with different application points, in different environment etc…it’ll take months! Tisha on the forum here is one of the most experienced and she is still testing some of the putatives that have been around for a year or two… AND, it will cost you a very pretty penny too! Phero’s aren’t cheap…You’ll also end up with products that don’t suit you at all, which is a waste of money and phero’s 🙂

I think you’d be alot better of choosing a couple of good phero’s with known effects to get a hang of how to use phero’s, which ones suit you and what effects you get…_then_ move on the to the experimental/research ones. They are difficult to interpret if you don’t know your response to the consumer ones yet…

Anyways…from your description it sound as if you are slightly shy and not very confident in approaching the ladies?  
If that is the case I’d recommend you get **Instant Shine**. It’s in my opinion the must have of phero’s. It does exactly what it says on the bottle…it makes you shine giving you a youthful, happy and approachable vibe. It works great as a stand alone, or in combination with other phero’s. The self-effects are great, IS boosts your mood and confidence so you’ll be alot more relaxed and at ease with approaching people.

Another really great phero is **[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)**. It’s one of the communicator social phero’s. It’s really good at increasing the _quantity_ of communication, making people chattier and more relaxed around you. IO also has great self effects.

If you want to increase the _quality_ of communication and create a more intimate atmosphere with a sense of closeness to the conversation then **Instant Honesty** is the one to get. IH will make people feel connected and the conversations are usually longer and more personal…great for dating!

For romance or creating an attractive vibe **Ammo** is one of the forum favourites. I haven’t used myself obviously (being female and all) but the guys usually recommend it either for the younger guys (with naturally high phero production) or for guys of any age who want to give off an attractive and sexy vibe rather than a sexual vibe. The harder sexual vibe is really better suited for going out on the pull, one nighters and spicing things up once you get to the bedroom…not for dating.

Hope that has given you a few ideas so far…I’m sure the guys can give you a few more pointers 🙂

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**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 1:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-never-use-phermones-before/25632/5 "2009-02-01T13:55:35Z")

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Hi Tom,

Welcome to the forum.

For your case, I suggest IO, IH, AMMO.

IO will open up girls and make them want to talk to you. This will make it easier for you to approach girls.

IH will make them closer to you. They will talk more personal and the conversation will last longer. They will feel like they have known you for long time.

AMMO will add the attraction. It will attract girls. It has a mild sexual attraction too.

Try them and have fun.

Cheers

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 3:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-never-use-phermones-before/25632/6 "2009-02-01T15:20:43Z")

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Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

My name is Tisha and I am the hostess and guide here on PT. Nice to meet you 😉 Thank you for providing more info for us.

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> I am thinking about purchasing all of the products and testing each out indivually while noting results. Then I’d doing combo tests similiar to other members here. I do have a lot of time on my hands now and can be as creative as I want. I feel like it’s a science project I did in highschool.

Thats fine, looks like you have been reading up in the forum so you know to go with them one at a time and to work up from one spray till you find your dosage.

A few tips on specific products you may want to keep in mind.

A314 is best used in a work environment to up your status. Good socially for the more outgoing guys because its not a highly approachable vibe. In work environments this is not a issue though.

TUTH is sex in a bottle, Best used in one on one situations where comfort has been established or in high sexual atmosphere’s like clubs and parties.

IFM use to the back of the neck because it can bring some men down a little. Believe me though the effects are worth that and if it is a issue just let me know and I will tell you which products to layer with it to combat that.

The rest ( Ishine IG IO IH) are easy to use in any environment but if you have questions just let me know.

**Your GC is on its way** 😃 (check you spam box we have problems with certain email providers)

Happy experimenting

Tisha

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-never-use-phermones-before/25632/7 "2009-02-01T16:37:01Z")

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Hello Tom,

Glad to have you here in Pherotalk so welcome 🙂 I see that you have an interest in using pheros here, good thinking there 🙂

Ok for your situation, i agreed with the others recommendations especially Lady Tisha recommendation 🙂 I will give my recommendation as well. Ok i would recommend AMMO or TUTH for sexual attraction towards girls & i suggest add IO & [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) to either one of them for a better result 🙂 And also i recommend A314 to use at work as this phero will help the user gain respect, trust & high status there 🙂 Try using with IO for better results if you want.

Good luck in trying the pheros & see ya 🙂
