# hello newb here **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [January 8, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-newb-here/8136 "2008-01-08T18:45:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RinNC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9a140/32.png) [@RinNC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RinNC)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-newb-here/8136/1 "2008-01-08T18:45:09Z")
Hey guys.. My name is Ryan, I’m 21 (woo hoo 😃 ) and from NC( im a dude). I have a friend of mine that ordered some Pherlure and after him telling about it I decided to do a little bit of research. From what I can gather this perolure is an advertisment, is this true?? I have been looking around and found these forums and your Androtics direct store. I am pretty good with the girls, but as you know, it could always be better 😉 . Does Andotics offer something that I can use at a bar that might breaking the ice a little easier? How about school? Thanks a bunch!!! ---
**Author:** ![Casanova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova/32/621_2.png) [@Casanova](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Casanova)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-newb-here/8136/2 "2008-01-08T19:23:41Z")
Hello Ryan.Wellcome to The Forum!!!😉 I don’t know much about pherlure but from what I’ve read some people are delighted by it while others cleim that is a scam. Well, it’s great that you and girls get along verry good ‘cause pheromones can give you an edge but cannot make you behave in the proper manner. For seducing women the best pheromone is called androstenone.In androtics’ store products who contain it are turn up the heat and ammo.There is a little but signioficant difference between them.The first one(tuth) make one to project an auro of pure and raw sexuality witch is good for some venues(night clubs, strip bars, dates with current gf…) and not so appropriate for others(school, colledge, family gathering …).The secon product ammo has the same ammount of androstenone but is’ buffered by some sexual; pheromones too so the effect is more milder, yet sexual. You can find more info about those and other products in the men’s forum and it’s stickies.Here are some basic info for newbies threads: pheromones in general: > [@Basic Noob Phero Bootcamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/basic-noob-phero-bootcamp/2159): > > Ok. Feel free to correct any errors I may have made. This took forever to write, so I hope you like it. Chapter 1 Alpha Androstenone: In the forum this is commonly referred to as –none or none. It is a hormone produced in men and women’s sweat. (significantly less if women) “Androstenone is the first mammalian pheromone to be identified.” ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androstenone](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androstenone)) Androstenone has the ability to cause arousal in women during their ovulation. It also has the ability cause irr… products’ mixes: > [@Phero color chart by MuskCloud: a visual guide to choosing mixes](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1833): > > MuskCloud, I uploaded this in photobucket since your attachment was never approved. I hope you don’t mind. Once again, Give all props to MuskCloud. He put a lot of work into this. and a thread started by me abut how exactly women percieve you while wearing pheros > [@How exactly one is percieved by women while wearing sex appeal boosting pheromones???](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-exactly-one-is-percieved-by-women-while-wearing-sex-appeal-boosting-pheromones/7778): > > Hi.This is verry interresting thing.How exactly women react to the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/)?do they think sometyhing like “What a hot guy…!!!” or just get attracted and cannot understand why?Do they realise they’re attracted to one wearing sexual pheros or it’s on too subconstious level of their mind?Have some of you guys here (or girls, their oppinion is also VERRY valuable) had some sort of feedback on what’s in a woman’s mind while sniffing the pheros on you and gets attracted???I mean something that the i… Be sure to read carefuly Tishas remarks on androstenone 'cause it conserns the topic u’re interrested in. Did your friend get any results of his pherlure? Well u say u’re interrested only in sexual pheromones but social pheros are good too.Have a look on this thread started by me.Here I describe the effects from [social pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) (cttm2) used with some androstenone and the awsome results I got with women so far.: > [@Come talk to me 2 impressions](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/come-talk-to-me-2-impressions/8121): > > I’ve receaved my [Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) Mix 2 before couple of days and have tryed it alittle. My first application was an intentional od about 8 sprays.Arms, back and front of neck and hair.The first thing I felt was some kind of dizzyness.Compared to androstenone witch usualy is like waterglass of coffe (makes me feel sober, nervous) alpha and beta androstenol have effect like drinking alcohol(dizzy, little bit tired).Strong self effects stayed for about 3-4 hours. Puted all thiese sprays and some … I hope this was informative to you and if u have any questions just ask 😉!!! ---
**Author:** ![Casanova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova/32/621_2.png) [@Casanova](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Casanova)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 7:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-newb-here/8136/3 "2008-01-08T19:33:56Z")
“but is’ buffered by some sexual; [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) too so the effect is more milder, yet sexual.” I made a mistake here, I ment buffered by social. ---
**Author:** ![RinNC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9a140/32.png) [@RinNC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RinNC)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-newb-here/8136/4 "2008-01-08T19:45:04Z")
Thanks alot, my buddy has not recieved his pherlure yet so I dont know how it will work for him, but it aroused my curiosity. I’m sure I’ll have a few more questions after I read through the links you provided…I am starting to think these might make college even more fun 😉 …Thanks again ---
**Author:** ![Casanova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova/32/621_2.png) [@Casanova](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Casanova)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-newb-here/8136/5 "2008-01-08T19:46:14Z")
NOT might, they WILL…😛 🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-newb-here/8136/6 "2008-01-08T19:46:52Z")
[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is the better product for starting with. It is too easy to go wrong and OD with tuth. ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-newb-here/8136/7 "2008-01-08T19:56:36Z")
Welcome to the forum Ryan. I’ve never tried Pherlure. From what I’ve read though the majority of people who come here after trying it are quite disappointed. Not to mention the science surrounding it’s main ingredient is sketchy at best. For the ladies you want to be looking at Androstenone. As already mentioned. You will probably want to start off with some buffered Androstenone, so Ammo would be a great starter choice. Androstadienone is another pheromone great for the ladies. IFM has this pheromone, which in some cases causes depression in some users. Androstenol is great for getting people chatty, IO or IH depending on the effect your looking for. [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) makes and leaves a nice happy vibe impression on people so it’s something to consider as well. Good luck. * * * ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 8:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-newb-here/8136/8 "2008-01-08T20:36:22Z")
Hey Ryan, just 21? I’ve been in NC longer than you 😃 . Welcome to the forum. There are a lot of “styles” of [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) use. Casanova is a pretty hard charger and it works for him. If your style is a little more low key you might want to try IG. Because the description reads “older than your years” a lot of younger guys think that means geezer city. Some younger guys have been trying it lately though and have reported that it helps them come off less intimidating. You might want to read some about it. Another good product that others have already mentioned is IO. It’s a great tool for getting people to open up more…an icebreaker of sorts. It’s really safe you can use it in class or club. Snooks Big Book of pheros for rookies is a good place to start. It’s in the stickys in the mens forum. Also be sure to check SteveO’s read me first thread. The other stickys are also chok full of info. Good luck. Start slow and learn as you go! From what i’ve read about pherlure you are already way ahead of your bud just by being here.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 10:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-newb-here/8136/9 "2008-01-08T22:40:05Z")
Wow another great opening thread by Casanova. Even though I agree completely with Gone that Ammo is the better starting point, you still have to thank the man for doing his homework and sharing it with you. Plus the fact of his exuberant confidence! Holy freaking wow! With that said it is a great big welcome for me to you. I am looking forward to some more college age guys posting about there hits on here. Everybody thinks college babes are so easy, but I say this to you, not everybody can be as charming as SteveO! I am issuing you your gift certificate tonight. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 3:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-newb-here/8136/10 "2008-01-09T03:09:39Z")
Welcome to the forum and world of pheros. You have come to the right place. A lot of people here have tried Pherlure and all I can say is that the vast majority continue to use the Androtics products. 'Nuff said. You have gotten some good advice here from both GWTW & Renny (as usual). [Turn Up The Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) while it seems to have a lot of bang is probably not the best product as you are liable to [OD](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacodynamics) although it certainly seems to work well for Casanova’s style! And Pheraoh gave you a good description of several other great products here. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is a great all around product and it has just enough 'none to spice things up as you said you wanted to do. I use it and another variation of it a lot to good ends. Also [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) as already mentioned are also good social products in that they can help start up conversations. [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) is also a great product. I have used it before and am thinking about ordering some again this next time around. Be sure to read the Stickies. They have a lot of good info. Just remember the old golden mantra of testing: 1 spray, watch for results, repeat for a few days then go up to 2 sprays. Repeat. Once you get a feel for what that product does for you at different doses, then move on to the next product. Once you have done this with all the products THEN try some of the mixes you have read about keeping in mind the results you have seen. Also remember: chances are if you do nothing, nothing will happen, even with pheromones. You have to interact with the people around you in order to see the changes in their interactions with you. Another rule of thumb: a lot of people who know you best MAY be the least effected as they already have a very concrete perception of who you are, your relationshionship, etc.. Then again, they may give you the old “What is different about you?” Just be ready for the first in case it happens. In some extreme cases, Moms have been known to get grumpy as their child has somehow changed. But to answer your question: Yes they are real and yes they work. But not like some kind of Harry Potter magical potion. It is real science with real effects, but you have to figure out the effects as they relate to you and then you need to take action to take advantage of those effects. ---
**Author:** ![RinNC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9a140/32.png) [@RinNC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RinNC)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 5:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-newb-here/8136/11 "2008-01-09T05:38:32Z")
Thanks for all the replies, everyone here seems fairl confident in these pheromones’ abilities and effects. I am starting to get an idea as to what I want to get out of these scents, but I definetly need to read some more on the issue; there is a ton of info buried in these forums! Let me see if this is right…instant openess is really just a social phero., and not too sexual? I’m a chem major so I will be reading some of the scientific articles on here as well (too late tonight lol). I am exicted to get started and report results in a college atmosphere. ---
**Author:** ![RinNC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9a140/32.png) [@RinNC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RinNC)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 5:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-newb-here/8136/12 "2008-01-09T05:42:05Z")
one more quick q… how does smoking effect these pheros (like being in a smoky bar) Thanks again for all the information!! ---
**Author:** ![Casanova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova/32/621_2.png) [@Casanova](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Casanova)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2008, 8:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-newb-here/8136/13 "2008-01-09T08:18:00Z")
Well I had some observations that cigarette smoke decreases the effect of mones but not so greatly so real distinction is difficult.If u’re in a VERRY smoky bar and u feel that suddenly pheros start not working maybe you should apply alittle more but watch out not to od, because when there isn’t smoke already and with all this added product it can be just too much 😉 Here is some link to a thread of mine on the topic: > [@Pheromones and cigarette smoke](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-cigarette-smoke/7292): > > What do u think?Can cigarette/cigar/pipe smoke in the air reduce the effect of the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/)?I have some experiences in witch alot of smoke( if there was a fire receptor in the room the alarm should have sounded) seemed to decrease the pheromones’ effect.What can you say about this?Did u had similar experiences?If yes what should be the reason?Smoke influences the smell/pheromones receptors in nose?I deffinately have to do more experiments on that but I’m just curious if others had similar expe… ---
**Author:** ![RinNC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9a140/32.png) [@RinNC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RinNC)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2008, 9:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-newb-here/8136/14 "2008-01-10T21:19:14Z")
hay can anyone tell which three pheros are in ammo? I did a search with little results…plus my comp is dead for right now so i am posting frm my pda. thanks again for all the info!! I believe I will order some ammo, but i like the social aspects of instnat shine ( would be good in college) might ammo alone make socializing easier too? thanks an have a good one!