# Hello! Overweight men = low testoserone? **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [November 4, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-overweight-men-low-testoserone/22449 "2008-11-04T01:06:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![anais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/46a35a/32.png) [@anais](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/anais)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-overweight-men-low-testoserone/22449/1 "2008-11-04T01:06:57Z")
Hi! I’m a female from North Carolina and I got interested in [pheromones](https://a314.com/) after I read that overweight men have low levels of testosterone and higher than normal levels of androstenol. The reason this was interesting to me is my boyfriend weighs 400 lbs. We are both 41 years old. I myself am a normal weight (132 lbs). We have a great sex life, but I am interested in experimenting with pheromones to see what affect they might have on him and our relationship. ---
**Author:** ![remmy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/remmy/32/2451_2.png) [@remmy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/remmy)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 1:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-overweight-men-low-testoserone/22449/2 "2008-11-04T01:43:25Z")
hey welcome! i understand that you are already set with great sex life, but pheros can def. spice things up a bit more 🙂 i personally find that lust after me has been great when i want more men attention. whenever i wear this, my good guy friends always asks me “.. you look different today what did u do?” and always complements me on my looks. it worked great in bed as well as club scenes so i def. recommend this. you should also try other instant lines like [instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) which is a fail-safe product. instant sexiness would increase his perception of you and give a little more edge to sex life. i also think turn up the heat would be a great product also. i find guys more attractive when they wear this product and it def. spices up sex life gluck and let me know if u have more questions ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 1:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-overweight-men-low-testoserone/22449/3 "2008-11-04T01:52:03Z")
Hi Anais, how are you? Here are a couple of threads from the Theory section on body fat and androstenols, there are possibly some more around too: > [@"Beer dudes", "fat tires", plant estrogens and friendly guys](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/beer-dudes-fat-tires-plant-estrogens-and-friendly-guys/21): > > It’s been shown by brain scans that the areas of the male brain associated with danger are activiated in the presence of ANY male, and very rarely a female. Ever notice that men that really get along with other men tend to be “beer dudes”? You very rarely see large groups of men co-existing without beer nearby. It’s WELL known that it’s hard to get drunk or even get a buzz from beer, especially if you drink it several times a week. Yet it’s the most popular social drink amongst men on the plan… > [@Body fat and androstenol](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/body-fat-and-androstenol/20): > > Higher body fat seems to correlate with higher natural androstenol. People tend to be at ease and sometimes very candid around ‘larger’ people, which is exactly what you’d expect from androstenols. When I had a weight problem, people were much friendlier with me. I was everyone’s “best friend”, even though there was little sexual interest. People would tell me everything, some telling me secrets they told no one else. I don’t think it was merely because I was less intimidating to the weight. W… Remmy has made some good recommendations there - -none is like an external pheromonal signifier of testosterone and -none is what TUTH basically is, with some other steering pheromones I believe. ---
**Author:** ![anais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/46a35a/32.png) [@anais](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/anais)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 2:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-overweight-men-low-testoserone/22449/4 "2008-11-04T02:15:26Z")
Thanks for the welcome and responses. I’m a little confused, being a total noob. If my man has low testosterone and high androstenol, would he respond better to me wearing a woman’s product or a man’s product? In other words, if his own [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) makeup is like that of a woman, will he be affected by a formula designed for women to attract men? I only assume he has low testosterone because of his weight. He has a deep voice and acts very Male. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-overweight-men-low-testoserone/22449/5 "2008-11-04T02:18:11Z")
Hello and welcome to the forum. I really do not know about the over-weight - low testosterone connection. Cannot tell you if it is true or not, but there are some experts here who can probably help. If you tell us a little more about yourself the ladies can help you with recommendations for products that may help ou your end. I know the products pretty well but prefer to leave the suggestions up to those who actually use them. Plus Tisha will be able to send you a GC!! Good luck and hope to hear back from you soon. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 2:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-overweight-men-low-testoserone/22449/6 "2008-11-04T02:27:46Z")
No - if he likes girls he will respond to a woman’s product. What you have to figure out is which one you need depending on your personality (mostly) and his (somewhat). Are you more or less aggressive? Are you shy or outgoing? And how does he respond? Does he prefer you to be more aggressive or does he want to protect you? Thinking about the answers to these questions will help you figure out what product to get for yourself. ---
**Author:** ![anais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/46a35a/32.png) [@anais](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/anais)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 2:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-overweight-men-low-testoserone/22449/7 "2008-11-04T02:38:26Z")
Thanks Bosshank! I would love for Tisha to send me a GC so I can order tonight! Like I said, I’m a 41 year old female. I’ve never been married and have one young daughter. I found it interesting that some products could have a positive effect on children. That is definately something I could use. I have moderately severe PMS so anything that helped with that would also be welcome. As for my sexual relationship, my b/f has a medium high libido so getting him to respond to me sexually is never difficult. I think what I need is something to get him to want to be more emotionally intimate. Something that will make him want to protect me, possess me, feel like he can’t live without me. Thanks so much for all the attentive responses!! You have been a lot of help so far! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 3:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-overweight-men-low-testoserone/22449/8 "2008-11-04T03:30:16Z")
Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 Your BF doesn’t necessarily have low testosterone because he is overweight more then likely if he is healthy and energetic at his weight he has normal levels. Muscular men tend to make slightly more then the normal baseline of testosterone. A good indication on his testosterone is if he is tired all the time. > [@](#): > > As for my sexual relationship, my b/f has a medium high libido so getting him to respond to me sexually is never difficult. This is also a excellent indication that his levels are normal He does probably make more anol due to his weight. Both males and females produce it though. This would just make him more personable and easy going. > [@](#): > > I’m a little confused, being a total noob. If my man has low testosterone and high androstenol, would he respond better to me wearing a woman’s product or a man’s product? In other words, if his own pheromone makeup is like that of a woman, will he be affected by a formula designed for women to attract men? I only assume he has low testosterone because of his weight. He has a deep voice and acts very Male. He is attracted to female mones. His testo levels have nothing to do with his sexual preference. > [@](#): > > think what I need is something to get him to want to be more emotionally intimate. Something that will make him want to protect me, possess me, feel like he can’t live without me. My suggestions would be IH for a deep connected close intimate feeling. Get 4X if you can from the drop down menu in the store. IS/B when its back in stock This is a sexy girly soft mix. Men tend to feel dominant and protective when exposed to it. Something with [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) like MX274 which evokes bonding and makes men more attentive. I am sorry two of those are out of stock but they will be back shortly An alternative if you dont want to wait is to get P74 with some Ishine to come close to the MX274 effect. TAH and a bottle of Instant sexiness A for the IS/B effect. IH is in stock. Keep in mind P74 and TAH are advanced products and do not fall under the guarantee. **Your GC is on its way** 😃 If you have questions just ask Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-overweight-men-low-testoserone/22449/9 "2008-11-04T17:17:09Z")
I have been cursed with an overweight problem for years (finally partially addressed when my faulty gall bladder was removed). I’m still heavier than I probably should be, although I suspect some of that weight is now just excess skin and tissue that grew to support/contain my swollen fat cells. I have heard somewhere that higher testosterone levels can be responsible for male hair loss as we get older. I’m over the 50 mark and still have a pretty full head of hair, although I do have a bit of a receeding hairline. My father, even in his 90’s, still had a fair amount of hair too, so there may be a genetic component. Not sure if this is any indication of my testosterone levels however. I DO know that I still most certainly have an interest in the ladies… so the libido is pretty much still in overdrive. I have noticed that even the smallest amounts of androstenol seem to get people yakking around me, as if there may be an OD condition, so there may be some truth to the idea that those of us with more fat cells also produce more natural androstenol levels (the “jolly fat man” thing -even though said fat man may suffer personal depression, others around him react to the higher -nol levels ??] ). I’ve pretty much quit using products like [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) as they seem to create a “please shut up already!” situation for me. Not sure if any in-depth research has been done on this, nor how much. I’ve seen too often how the results of a single small study can get blown totally out of proportion. Or there is question about it’s validity based on the test subjects used (many modern medications, even for older people, seem to be based on studies done using healthy young males even if medication is aimed at ill old females… I have heard some research and subsequent conclusions were based on trials using US military draftees back in the old days. Hardly a “typical” population.).