# Hello! Phero user needs help, no luck :(

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-phero-user-needs-help-no-luck/6332>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [October 31, 2007, 6:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-phero-user-needs-help-no-luck/6332 "2007-10-31T18:09:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2007, 7:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-phero-user-needs-help-no-luck/6332/21 "2007-11-04T19:05:02Z")

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Smoothie

I answered your post right here.

> [@The "MAD TATER" Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/225):
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> If she’s not what you are looking for then why are you two still together? That’s kinda cruel and just steals both of you time to find the right partner…

You didnt mention the latino, asian part.

I suggested [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), IH and IS.

Asians girls can be a little taken back by alot of anone this is why I still suggest Ammo for you. Its a good all round product and has buffers. It also go’s well with IS and IH

You mentioned earlier your cheap 😛 Get them in to-go bottles they are inexpensive.

Before you order go here\>\>\>\>

> **[PheromoneTalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/introductions-new-users-say-hello-get/)**
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> Everything about using pheromones to enhance your social life

See the red button that says start new thread. Start one and tell us your sex, age, what your looking for from mones and what ever else you want to say and Steveo will send you a $15 dollar Gift cert. So you will get 1 to-go bottle just about free. 😉

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**Author:** ![Tonka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9f8e36/32.png) [@Tonka](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tonka)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2007, 7:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-phero-user-needs-help-no-luck/6332/22 "2007-11-04T19:52:19Z")

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No need to apologise , I’ve had so much fun reading this post and its replies.

On one hand I fee like Mark on the other hand, I like your call too.

I’ve noticed most (not all) chicks like the bad boy. I’ve noticed too, most of those chicks (not all) are not very bright, smart, independent and working kind. Sort of the woman style I like. which complicates things a bit. this girls are not the average bimbo or airheaded cutie.

I do beleive a woman should be treated as a queen, and I’m too with keeping the fine balance between good and misterious. Thing which I’m not doing and should.

Back to pheros. Alpha makes you badboy. The edge is that right?  
Ok so I’m lost again.  
Friends, both male and female, name your best suggestions please on this particular issue.

Instant Honesy?  
Istant Female Magic?  
AMMO? any other?

Thanks to all

BTW, I’d like to comment, all of you seem very educated people, this “debate” went very elegantly handled. My appreciation to all.

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**Author:** ![NancysBoy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nancysboy/32/391_2.png) [@NancysBoy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NancysBoy)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2007, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-phero-user-needs-help-no-luck/6332/23 "2007-11-04T20:17:18Z")

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[Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) is only $12 [Instant Female Magic for Men, TO GO!](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)

You can combine it with Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, Shine, A314, and CTTM.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2007, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-phero-user-needs-help-no-luck/6332/24 "2007-11-04T20:50:24Z")

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I still stand by my origonal suggestion.

Since “Edge” seemed to high in anone for her I would get the ammo, which is buffered by 2 other mones. The edge is anone as well but its the buffer part in Ammo that will make the difference for you

When I say Alpha men = Bad boys I am refering to a Alpha male will give off a " I wont take no shit from anyone" vibe. So will a Bad boy. a Alpha will attract alot of attention. So will a Bad boy. There are many simular qualities.

Your girl may have picked up that vibe coming from you when you wore the Edge.

I think the most important stuff to get is the socials. [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), IFM , and IH. You have some anone with the edge. You can use it in cologne like I explained before. So if you cant get all 4 get the 3 socials first.

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**Author:** ![Tonka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9f8e36/32.png) [@Tonka](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tonka)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2007, 11:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-phero-user-needs-help-no-luck/6332/25 "2007-11-04T23:28:00Z")

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Cool, I’ll order monday morning The tab cam a bit high, but, hell, I hope it works on her, and if it does not, well, I can still gain form the investment. All your time and input is greatly appreciated Have a great week.

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**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 2:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-phero-user-needs-help-no-luck/6332/26 "2007-11-05T02:11:28Z")

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Hey Steveo and Tish,

Thanks for the compliments. And Tonka, I wish you great success, and hope that all of our comments have been helpfull.

Tish, I do agree that we are on the same page, and just coming at it a bit differently. I know that I did stereotype womens behavior and probably shouldn’t have been so blunt about it. All women are different, just as all men are too. But, I do think that its pretty universal that women don’t find the wimpy guy attitude attractive, and if the guy starts caving at some point into the relationship, the womens attraction to him will dwindle.

And, in the instances where women are actually attracted to the wimpy guy types, I think oftentimes it’s due to them having low self esteem and self confidence.

As to the boy boy = alpha male inferrence, you are pretty much dead on! Although I would probably say that a bit of mystery and mischeviousness added to the mix also helps create attraction.

I would probably agree that most mothers tell their daughters that us guys are pigs and are only looking for one thing. Then, turn around and tell us guys to treat girls with respect, wine and dine them, show how much we care about them and pretty much just just be spineless wimps.

It could be interesting to poll some of the male and female readers and see what their mothers told them of the opposite sex, what to expect and how to treat them. Anybody care to post?

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**Author:** ![sm00thie411](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@sm00thie411](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sm00thie411)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 5:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-phero-user-needs-help-no-luck/6332/27 "2007-11-05T17:34:12Z")

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OK so can you pen out the effects of instant female magic and ammo. Since im new and kind of curious before i order the product.

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