# Hello! Pheromone advise to level ship up w/ a girl? From friend to GF. M/30 **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [June 30, 2017, 10:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromone-advise-to-level-ship-up-w-a-girl-from-friend-to-gf-m-30/67257 "2017-06-30T10:55:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ShroudOfTurin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@ShroudOfTurin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ShroudOfTurin)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 10:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromone-advise-to-level-ship-up-w-a-girl-from-friend-to-gf-m-30/67257/1 "2017-06-30T10:55:54Z")
Hello all, I’m a 30 year old male from the US trying to decide on the [best pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) combination to try out on a 23 year old girl I’ve been close friends with for 6 years now. It may help to know that she still seems a little younger, I’d say 20 or 21. I also still look about 24 or 25. I hope I don’t get scolded for this 😛 but she was my friend’s girlfriend throughout the entire duration of our friendship and now she wants to see me for the first time in 3 months. She cheated on him (nothing major, just kissing) with another guy she didn’t even know which lead to an ugly breakup. The reason for the cheating was that he treated her like crap for years. My friend has already moved on and doesn’t seem to honestly care if I hang out with her or not. We have always been close, sharing personal stories about our lives and we have shared a lot of laughs. I know these first few times hanging out again are going to determine if I will ever get my chance to finally…you know..😉 What do you think my best bet would be for increasing my chances of hooking up with her without coming on too strong? I can’t try too hard or she’s going to know what I’m doing and probably make fun of me ha. It would have to be an in the moment type of thing. I need a little covert aid here. We’ll probably be hanging out at my house in the basement playing video games and drinking shoulder to shoulder like we always have (on my bed). What should I say when she smells it? lol thanks ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 2:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromone-advise-to-level-ship-up-w-a-girl-from-friend-to-gf-m-30/67257/2 "2017-07-01T02:38:02Z")
Welcome to PheromoneTalk, ShroudOfTurin! Your intro GC is now in your email and ready for use. 🙂 Try the AMMO + IShine combo for casual flirting. Get TUTH as back up in case you are going to be in a situation that you want to elevate the climate a bit. But don’t act as the hungry virgin wolf. Act cool, let the mones do the work, and you play it cool, and let her take the first step. You’ll know when she takes that step and it’s up to you to reciprocate. Good luck and happy Pheroing! 🙂 ============== _ **Disclosure:** I’ve edited your thread title from **“Hello, in need of [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) advise for 6 year friendship with a girl”** to **“Hello! Pheromone advise to level ship up w/ a girl? From friend to GF. M/30”** for topic clarity and forum readability. It’ll also generate more “reads” to your thread. If you want to opt-out simply let me know. Thank you!_ ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromone-advise-to-level-ship-up-w-a-girl-from-friend-to-gf-m-30/67257/3 "2017-07-05T15:25:09Z")
Hi ShroudofTurin and Welcome! I would suggest the Intro pack so you get everything to try so you get everything right at your finger tips so there would be no guess work if you got the right stuff. You are actually in a perfect setup and should have no problem achieving your goal. I would start with [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and find your sweet spot and then build off of this one. This is the very first thing and your best bet. Then I would add the IShine like Dee suggested as this is the most very basic and effective setup. Then if you want to get to the heart of how she really feels add some IH to your wrists/back of hands and be prepared to hear just about anything. Then after all this add a very small amount of TUTH 1 spray to start and see where it goes. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 7:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromone-advise-to-level-ship-up-w-a-girl-from-friend-to-gf-m-30/67257/4 "2017-07-05T19:05:46Z")
As was said Ammo + IS is probably the most basic and effective combo to try, especially in your situation. So I would recommend these. And if you see her more and more and it gets better, try adding a little TUTH. If she asks, which most women IME do, just say it’s a new cologne you’re trying out that you bought online.