Hello. Pheromones for finding out if this really works. M/21/Texas

This might be a rhetorical question, but ammo can be used by itself right? So far no effects observed at all, so I am wondering if there is something else that I need to be doing.

Yes. In fact, all of the Instant Products, Ammo, TUTH, A314, Instant Sexiness, can be used on their own.

You can mix them too, but its best to wait until you have a good handle on them individually before doing so.

What kind of reactions you are looking for? Which kind of places have you tried Ammo?

I am trying to test if this stuff works and if so, it will be the indicator for investment, so any effect I will be happy with, problem is, nothing changed at all and I am not getting any IOI from any girls. I wish I had bought more variety in the togo amount to see if anything else might have worked. But since I saw ammo was the most celebrated product at the time, I got that instead. If only I have samples of each lol. Well, my test run is with ammo only now I guess. So hope it works, and I really hope it could work.

Is there any 1 specific product that I should try tho that will have a definite high chances of response? Just got my gift cert lol, so I got $25 more to invest to see if pheromones really work.

As for the comment about settings, currently I am a student so environments will be like classrooms, study areas and coffee shops.

Well I would suggest you to try Instant Shine with your Ammo.

Thanks, anything else tho? I guess what I am really hoping for is attracting girls. So yea… going for the togo bottles, so, I think I can fit 1 more product into the current budget.

Go either Instant Gentleman, or Instant Openness.

If you feel you need respect go with Instant Gentleman or if you want help with conversation go with Openness.

Just wondering, whats CTTM? I have been seeing threads about this with AMMO. Will tish be better than IS and IO?

hey pokiemonster, dont get desperate :slight_smile: .

My advice is that you stick with ammo doing that plan for now :slight_smile:

So you can see if you notice a difference in the dosage and the application points to see which ones are better for you.

Another thing is. Right now you lack confidance, and this is more important than the mones, you need to read things about how to interact with girls, to put it in pratice to error many times until you find your own style, and from there yes with right mones you’ll be very successfull. For what I am reading from this, you really nead a attitude change. The mones will only help that 10%, its good, means that you already have 10%, but if you dont put the other 90% in the table, dont expect to find many girls to hit someone that just has good signature but act like the contrary :slight_smile: .

Hope you can get better. best regards.

falcos

So should I go for 1 IS 2x and 1 IO 1x or the other way, trying to fit it all in my budget lol

The things Falcos said are true, mones cannot help by itself. You need to be that 90% guy, and then the mones will help you. If your behave is not signalling that you are that cool quy that your mone signature is signalling to people, then they don’t work. Of course mones can help you to be that quy. It is easier to be that quy with mones than without them.

Anyway, definedly Shine 2x and Openness regular strenght.

Well, I have no trouble meeting people actually, and I know a lot of people, the problem is getting pass that with girls. I know them, but it doesn’t exactly move any further along. Maybe its the school too, here most of the population are guys and so every girl gets some attention and thinks that they are hot. Girls that gets to know me better thinks I am a nice guy but that is it. Always stuck on the friend stage with those. As for confidence, although I might be lacking some, a lot of people think otherwise when I talk to them. I cover that weakness pretty well, its the self reflection at the end of the day that I actually access my confidence level when not in front of anyone.

I have also been hanging with this girl a lot lately, but we are just friends, wont mind turning her to a friend with benefit tho lol, she is pretty decent looking, but she is not looking for a relationship and although she is hot, not looking for a relationship either.

Also, I notice that whenever I interact with girls, I can get really close to some but I wont be able to get anywhere at all with others. It just happens really really randomly. But a lot of those friends becomes nothing more than confidants and best friends, never anything sexual with them.

But yea, I think my greatest problem is getting past the introduction stage. It is starting a relationship with them that is hard.

There are also 1 or 2 girls that I do approach, but they kinda just avoid me. Balls lol.

I’m of the opinion that Falcos has offered you sage and kind advice.:wink:

OK so you’re having an issue getting out of the friend zone and all the girls you meet are putting you into that zone. If that’s the case, you don’t need Ishine or IO or any other socials. Not sure why you are so set on trying to double up on the strength but it has nothing to do with the actual problem.

Not to browbeat you, or put you down, but my Italian Grandfather always taught me brutal honesty was the best practice with people so here goes: You are the problem! I can almost picture you bending to these girls will and doing whatever it is they say. You are trying to manipulate your kindness as a way to get inside her pants. First off it is a very deceptive practice that any woman worth her weight in salt can see right through and will turn the tables on. They’re figuring if you can be manipulative and use kindness then why shouldn’t she use her Pink and Squishy nether region to gain anything she wants. I bet you listen when she complains about her problems with men. Even worse I bet you try to convince her that the guys she dates should treat her nicer.:open_mouth:

I can tell you all this, because, well because I was just that guy. In the early years of JR High and HS I could have been a freaking porn star I got so much tail. It was that easy for me, then all of a sudden something in my life changed. Somehow I mistook my good naturedness, my humor, my gentlemanly kind caring persona and started to rely more on that than just not caring at all. I went from porn star to watching porn.

Not caring, being indifferent and being nice; lets have a look at those and figure out why one works, while the other sets you into the friend zone and keeps you there. Well for one being indifferent does NOT mean being a jerk in the way most nice guys think it does. It does not mean not holding a door open, it does not mean laughing when her little dog gets run over either. It means to turn a deaf ear if she starts whining about her life, tell her she needs a spanking. Having boundaries, having the balls to say no and mean it. Not caring if she doesn’t want to sleep with you. After all she is one chick in a sea of chicks.

In other words stop being her doormat! If you want to be considered anything other than a nice guy she will never sleep with, but she can DUMP on whenever she wants to, than stop being a nice guy she can dump on whenever she wants to. She needs a guy who makes her feel safe and if you are too afraid to say no to her or scared she might break off the friendship because she wont sleep with you, then how will you handle the rapist murderer looking to do her harm in your presence?

She needs and wants a man to protect her, make her feel safe, make her toes curl when she thinks about sex with you. She wants to be dominated by a man and she wants a guy to grab her hair at the nape of her neck and pull it just a tiny little bit to show dominance, right before you kiss her. She wants the guy who is willing to take risks and if it doesn’t work out will walk away. YOU HAVE OPTIONS and she isn’t in the lineup.

So stop with the self-depreciating thoughts, stop with all the pitying ones lot in life, wondering how she can be fucking that jerk while you’re the nice guy.

You can do this man, but you have to man up. Be prepared to loose friendships, be prepared to walk away. Don’t take crap from people, don’t be Mr Nice Guy who buys her chocolate and flowers on Valentines Day while she’s doing someone else. Lead an adventurous life and make her wonder how many ways you will satisfy her when she’s thinking about you.

Get yourself some A314 and use it in conjunction with Ammo. Watch Casino Royale. Become an ALPHA male, be the leader of the pack. A314 is powerful stuff and if you want it to work for you, then YOU HAVE TO WORK FOR IT.

Balls, wish I had gotton that message earlier, too late now. I am just going to have to stick to AMMO, IS, IO as testers right now. The full bottle of a314 is out of my budget to get just to test if pheros work :frowning: owell

Wish me luck and hope I can see some effects with what I have currently.

Well you still have the Ammo :stuck_out_tongue: and pheromones or not just follow the advice and don’t let her dump on you anymore.