# Hello! Pheromones To Help Me Get My GF Back. 34/M/CT **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [June 24, 2015, 4:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromones-to-help-me-get-my-gf-back-34-m-ct/64543 "2015-06-24T04:34:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Premo081480](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9a140/32.png) [@Premo081480](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Premo081480)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2015, 4:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromones-to-help-me-get-my-gf-back-34-m-ct/64543/1 "2015-06-24T04:34:53Z")
Hello everyone. I am a newbie to this whole pheremone thing. I am currently working in a warehouse for a company that manufactures many different products for the entertainment industry while going to school to be an electrician. I am here because I am devastated because my ex-girlfriend just recently broke up with me & I’m trying to get her back. I don’t know if I should go into detail in this forum or another one though. Any help would be greatly appreciated.☹ ---
**Author:** ![Spectrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Spectrum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spectrum)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2015, 3:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromones-to-help-me-get-my-gf-back-34-m-ct/64543/2 "2015-06-24T15:12:38Z")
Hello friend. Welcome to the forum [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) can really help you in getting ur ex back . Thrre are threads already posted on the forum .u can search on this forum . Although u can look at : Ammo for sending her attaction vibes from you . Plus use it with IH it will give her a honest vibe which in turn will make u more relaible for her. Also u can use it alternatively with IG this will give a status friendly vibe flow out of you. Additionally also post few more lines about you and your ex. This will make u earn 25 usd gc. Till then u can read more regarding your needs in this forum. Take care and keep posting. ---
**Author:** ![pudleduk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pudleduk/32/2302_2.png) [@pudleduk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pudleduk)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2015, 5:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromones-to-help-me-get-my-gf-back-34-m-ct/64543/3 "2015-06-24T17:26:35Z")
Hi Premo, Welcome to the forum! Sorry to hear of your bad luck with your GF. Along with what Soni suggested, IShine will also give her a happy feeling whenever you are around, and this could help to sway things back in your favor. A314 is a great product that can help you both with attraction and respect from others while you are on the job. Why not pick up the Ultimate [Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) Introductory Pack that AD offers here. It’s a great deal, and this will give you each of the mones, so you can try them out and see how each one works for your situation. pudleduk ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2015, 7:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromones-to-help-me-get-my-gf-back-34-m-ct/64543/4 "2015-06-25T07:05:15Z")
Hello Premo! 🙂 Welcome to PheromoneTalk! 🙂 Dropped the $25 Intro GC into your email earlier, so, kindly check your inbox and spam folders after to retrieve the code. 🙂 It’s ready for use. 🙂 I suggest you check out every post made by Replay25. You can pick up some important ideas from the exchange of ideas and experience by the guy and the other members of this community. 🙂 Happy pheroing! 🙂 ====== _ **Disclosure:** I’ve edited your thread title from **“Hello!! 34/M Newbie From CT”** to **“Hello! Pheromones To Help Me Get My GF Back. 34/M/CT”** for topic clarity and forum readability. It’ll also generate more “reads” to your thread. If you want to opt-out simply let me know. Thank you!_ ---
**Author:** ![cod3freak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bc79bd/32.png) [@cod3freak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cod3freak)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2015, 7:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromones-to-help-me-get-my-gf-back-34-m-ct/64543/5 "2015-06-25T07:21:11Z")
I’m new to the Phero thing, but I can attest to the effects of [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and Instant Openess. No matter what if you want her back then you’ll need to talk. I’ve used both of these products recently and can attest that they do work. She will want to talk to you and tell you deep things. This may help you get an idea on why she left. However - I would consider a cool down period. Simply put there’s many women, but the best way to push them away is to chase them. Make her chase you. Go out. Use the Phero you buy here to pick up OTHER hot women. Make her think how stupid she was for dropping you in the first place - because if she hears about you banging about town with hotties every weekend, she’ll really start to wonder. Then you can you can use the IH and IO to get to the real reason for the break up. This will put you in a far better position to determine IF, you WANT her back. You might find that you don’t, then its no harm no foul. 😉 Speaking from real experience here bro. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2015, 8:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromones-to-help-me-get-my-gf-back-34-m-ct/64543/6 "2015-06-25T20:35:42Z")
Welcome Promo, The 1st product I recommend is IS. It is a mood enhancer and will boost confidence. The 2nd is A314. You will feel amazing and confident with thus one. Once you have an understanding of both wear these together in a mix and you will just be blown away on the effects. So tell us more what are some of your goals here? Do you plan on trying to get your GF back? ---
**Author:** ![Premo081480](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9a140/32.png) [@Premo081480](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Premo081480)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromones-to-help-me-get-my-gf-back-34-m-ct/64543/7 "2015-06-26T07:08:36Z")
Hello everyone. I really appreciate the concern and all the help you guys have to offer. I’m sorry if this ends up like a novel, because my situation is very unusual, but now I’m going to elaborate: My ex and I were friends for 1 month, & together for almost 6 months. She was separated for 2 years before she became recently divorced with 2 beautiful children, a boy & a girl from the same father, whom I accepted as my own, & they already see me as a stepfather. (I don’t have any kids by the way). Before that I was actually pursuing a childhood friend in another state until 7 months ago. Anyway, my ex was actually an acquaintance & Facebook friend at first. One day, she IMs me & asks me out. We went out to eat for lunch & she even paid for it! We hit it off well. Then she invites me to spend last Thanksgiving with her & her family. We ate, drank sociably, danced, & had an awesome time. She even bought me my favorite chocolates (Ferrero Rocher) in a gold gift box, which she gave to me after the gathering. Mind you, she was an extremely sweet person, & not to mention beautiful, & I am a sucker for sweethearts, which is what I fell in love with. By then, sparks were flying, & butterflies & were definitely flowing in each of our stomachs. We went back & forth texting & talking on the phone, & kind of getting to know each other for less than a month. In between all that, I took her to dinner & a movie which I paid for, started coming over her house & we did simple things like eat dinner, watch movies & eat popcorn, & playing board games & Uno with her & the kids. By Christmas, I bought her jewelry & her kids toys, & she bought me clothes. I was already sleeping on her bed, but we didn’t start having sex until we made our romantic relationship official a few days before New Years. Since then, we were inseperable, we started saying “I love you”, & she never wanted us to be apart aside from work, & I admit I didn’t want to be away from her either. We never really had our space since until a week ago. It was like we were married (even though I still kept my place). It was nothing but hustle & bustle, go to work, come home, cook & eat dinner, wash clothes, you know everyday household chores, watch tv, get ready for the next day, put the kids to sleep, then have awesome sex & go to sleep. Next day, same thing, & so on. On Fridays and/or weekends, we would go out to eat mostly & occasionally go out & do something fun, but it would mostly be with the kids because the kids didn’t like their babysitter because she’s elderly & boring. Maybe with the exception of a few more dates we were alone, only because the kids’ father came up from GA & took them to NY & Valentines Day they went with the babysitter, that’s about it. Besides that, back to the same monotony. By March, she was tired of the whole thing, realized that the “spark” wasn’t really there, that her emotions got the best of her because she was just lonely & vulnerable, & she didn’t want to be alone at the moment & the “I love you too” stopped. I’ll get back to that, but first I must also mention & admit that she makes $6-$7 USD more an hour than I do, & even though I paid for some things like when we went out to eat or something, she paid mostly, either half the bill or the whole bill, I rarely paid for a whole bill. I did go half on groceries though. Regardless, I do feel bad as a man because I didn’t do more financially for her. I should be more financially stable & making decent money at my age, but I messed up & just settled for less all my life until starting school in April, which is only 13 months long. Anyway, back to March: She was going to break up with me then because she was fed up. Her reason being besides no spark was that she felt I didn’t have the qualities she looks for in a guy: I didn’t treat her like a queen, she paid for most things, she said I was needy because she felt like my mother & nurturer, every now & then bailing me out of something financially, I lacked confidence (which I do have some insecurities), shy (I just wasn’t outgoing enough with other people, or at least not initiating conversation, which i don’t understand why that mattered to her cause I wasn’t that way with her, & she is the same way too). I wasn’t fun, (which I already explained the reason for that, us not being able to go out alone much because the kids not liking the babysitter), & I feel that was her fault by the way. She did say that I made her laugh, however. So basically, her ideal man that sweeps her off her feet is outgoing, witty, funny (same thing I think), fun, assertive, & not needy. I didn’t possess most of those qualities according to her, but I already admitted to not possessing some. So I was supposed to start backing off little by little in March, slowly getting all my things out her house & back into mine, staying 1 day on & 1 day off for like a week so the kids could start getting used to me little by little not staying there anymore, then completely stop staying over, because they loved me & she didn’t want them to be really hurt by me suddenly not staying there anymore. Then she just wanted to remain friends. At least that was supposed to be the original plans, which I didn’t find out until now. Now here’s the clencher: The only reason it lasted this long is because I foiled the plan by telling the kids in March that we were breaking up then, and they & I started crying. This was exactly what she didn’t want to happen. She scolded me & was mad for a couple days, then after, we had another talk. She told me that she changed her mind about me because I was so good to her. Emotionally I was sweet & comforting & I was a good guy. She started saying “I love you” again, & everything seemed fine & dandy & the relationship continued the same way until a week ago, right after the kids went with their father for the summer. Her reasons & excuses for breaking up with me came back. Coincidence? I think not!! The feelings were fake since March!! She played me & had this delayed breakup planned since!! This is the part that hurts me the most!! (The only thing that’s weird about this whole thing that I don’t understand for the life of me & has me stumped is right after the supposed breakup in March & she supposedly changed her mind, she asked me if I wanted her to take her IUD out so we can have a kid together, to which I told her “no”, cause it wasn’t the right time. Did she have a split-second real change of heart? I don’t know). So now again, she just wants to remain friends. So this is my crazy story!!! Despite her deceitfulness & being conniving & selfish halfway through the relationship, I still love her & those kids to death!! (Y’all might think something’s wrong with me), but I’m convinced that we could build something more than just a sexual relationship, but this time with more space between us, not like we’re married for now. I’m convinced that we did move too fast, & the sex so early did ruin it & barely having a dating relationship also ruined it. What’s funny is that we rarely argued, aside from these issues. Please let me know if pheremones can help this one, excluding any sexual stimulants like [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) & TUTH. Like I said, we need to establish other aspects of this relationship for a while before becoming even remotely sexual again. I also need something to boost my confidence & charisma too. Any help will be greatly appreciated! ---
**Author:** ![pudleduk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pudleduk/32/2302_2.png) [@pudleduk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pudleduk)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 5:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromones-to-help-me-get-my-gf-back-34-m-ct/64543/8 "2015-06-26T17:31:38Z")
Premo, I still think A314 and IShine is the way to go. IO and IH may help the situation too. But let me take a moment to distill all this down, (and I am likely to be completely wrong here, so don’t take offence). She divorces, and you come in on the rebound. At first, she adores you, introduces the kids, and they adore you too. The “honeymoon” phase of early dating wears off, and she decides maybe this rebound is over, BUT, you are such a nice guy, to both her and her kids, she has a difficult time extracting from the relationship. When she does finally ‘pull-the-trigger’ in March, confused and sad, you tell the kids goodbye, but kids being kids, they have no way to process this. She gets mad at you, purely because she created all this chaos and can’t direct her anger at herself, so it gets directed at you. Days later, still in a mess with her kids, she decides the break-up isn’t worth her kids heart-ache, so she brings you back. Then she concocts a scheme to get pregnant by you to ‘lock’ herself into a relationship so she doesn’t cause this mess again, but you say no, (rightly so) and the plan doesn’t work, and she is still in a mess, at least in her head. Listen, love is hard, especially when more than just the two of you are involved. Personally, I’d say, it has been a mess with her in the past, and I expect it will continue to be a mess in the future, as she goes back-and-forth in her head about what she should do. Know that you don’t have to be together in order for you to love her and her kids. Freely give your love to them, since there is no more selfless thing in life than to give your unconditional love to someone. This being said however, take a serious look at where you both have been, and ask yourself, “is this something I want to continue?” Because as hard as it will be to pull back now, it will be exponentially hard if you drag this out being a great guy for another year or two, only to realize you are right back here again later. I’d think you would make a good friend to her, and a good “Uncle” to the kids without much heart-ache to bear. Any chance she has an open bedroom you could take in her house and play the roommate role for a while? This way you can apply your mones and let her steep in the scent of the A314 for a while, keeping things completely non-sexual, and if she learns to come around and start showing you some respect and affection again, you can always ‘upgrade’ the relationship again. The take away for you here Premo, you sound like a great guy, and the faults she found in you were only excuses she was making in order to push you away. But then, it doesn’t sound like she really knows what she wants here either. Any idea why her last marriage didn’t work out? Maybe this is just her personality… Don’t get yourself caught in the middle if you can help it! pudleduk ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 5:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromones-to-help-me-get-my-gf-back-34-m-ct/64543/9 "2015-06-27T05:12:22Z")
Hi premo! I suggest you create a new thread regarding this concern at the [Men’s sections](https://pheromonetalk.com/c/men-s-pheromone-advice-tricks-and-tips/45). The veterans and experienced users do frequent there and I think you’ll receive better recommendations in there. 🙂 Aw… Love. ---
**Author:** ![Premo081480](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9a140/32.png) [@Premo081480](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Premo081480)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2015, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromones-to-help-me-get-my-gf-back-34-m-ct/64543/10 "2015-07-01T22:00:19Z")
> [@pudleduk](#): > > Premo, > I still think A314 and IShine is the way to go. IO and IH may help the situation too. > > But let me take a moment to distill all this down, (and I am likely to be completely wrong here, so don’t take offence). > She divorces, and you come in on the rebound. At first, she adores you, introduces the kids, and they adore you too. The “honeymoon” phase of early dating wears off, and she decides maybe this rebound is over, BUT, you are such a nice guy, to both her and her kids, she has a difficult time extracting from the relationship. When she does finally ‘pull-the-trigger’ in March, confused and sad, you tell the kids goodbye, but kids being kids, they have no way to process this. She gets mad at you, purely because she created all this chaos and can’t direct her anger at herself, so it gets directed at you. Days later, still in a mess with her kids, she decides the break-up isn’t worth her kids heart-ache, so she brings you back. Then she concocts a scheme to get pregnant by you to ‘lock’ herself into a relationship so she doesn’t cause this mess again, but you say no, (rightly so) and the plan doesn’t work, and she is still in a mess, at least in her head. > Listen, love is hard, especially when more than just the two of you are involved. Personally, I’d say, it has been a mess with her in the past, and I expect it will continue to be a mess in the future, as she goes back-and-forth in her head about what she should do. Know that you don’t have to be together in order for you to love her and her kids. Freely give your love to them, since there is no more selfless thing in life than to give your unconditional love to someone. This being said however, take a serious look at where you both have been, and ask yourself, “is this something I want to continue?” Because as hard as it will be to pull back now, it will be exponentially hard if you drag this out being a great guy for another year or two, only to realize you are right back here again later. > I’d think you would make a good friend to her, and a good “Uncle” to the kids without much heart-ache to bear. Any chance she has an open bedroom you could take in her house and play the roommate role for a while? This way you can apply your mones and let her steep in the scent of the A314 for a while, keeping things completely non-sexual, and if she learns to come around and start showing you some respect and affection again, you can always ‘upgrade’ the relationship again. > The take away for you here Premo, you sound like a great guy, and the faults she found in you were only excuses she was making in order to push you away. But then, it doesn’t sound like she really knows what she wants here either. Any idea why her last marriage didn’t work out? Maybe this is just her personality… Don’t get yourself caught in the middle if you can help it! > pudleduk Hello Pudleduk, Sorry I took too long to respond. I’ve been pretty busy between work & school. No offense taken. I appreciate the compliment. It really makes me feel a lot better. She thinks I’m a great guy too, I’m just in the friend zone now & I really hate being there & I really need to get back out of it. I feel like a kid on timeout, except that at least a kid knows when he gets off of it. At least I’m being optimistic by calling it just that, timeout, or our temporary romantic space from each other. I believe that I’ve came across the [best pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) community in the planet & the products from here will work. Anyway, I can’t understand how all the assholes are the ones who are with someone or are/were married & have kids & us nice guys are the ones who are either single, or if we are involved, especially if it is a rebound, (which I didn’t see in the beginning because this nice guy falls in love easily), we are the ones who end up extremely hurt. We have to suffer & pay because they’re extremely hurt so they’re scorned. Therefore they’ve lost their trust in men. That was another issue with her. She told me before that her ex-husband loved her until she started getting pregnant. Then he started telling her that she was getting fat. He is a very superficial person. I don’t understand how they even lasted as long as they did, from 2005 to being separated in 2012, & not 1, but 2 kids later. The divorce was finalized last year. He has cheated on her in between. This is probably the main reason for her unsure & bi-polar “she loves me, she loves me not” personality, & the excuses for her dumping me that I mentioned in the first post were exactly just that, excuses. Not to mention, her best friend admitted to me that in the beginning, right before we started dating, my ex told her that she wasn’t even sure she was ready to date then. Again, her personality would explain why she asked me if I wanted her to take her IUD out, because she loved me at that moment, or was in “La-La Land” like she said, & not because she wanted to trap herself. It wouldn’t have made a difference anyway, because she had admitted to me that if we did have a kid, she still would have left me and just let me have custody of my kid because she feels that it would be in good hands & I’m a great guy & I would make a great father & she would never have taken my child away from me. Right now, there is no chance of me being a roommate. However, she still wants to stay close friends & we did hang out this past weekend platonically, & there will be plenty of more opportunities to see her while I’m armed with the pheromones, so there’s no need to move back in now anyway. She feels that it will be unhealthy for me to be completely out of the kids’ lives. At first when she broke up with me, she told me that there is no chance of us getting back together, but now, she says “not right now”. She says that she needs to learn how to be by herself & she’s not ready for a relationship at the moment. I’m a little more comfortable with that answer. However, if it wasn’t for pheromones, I don’t think I would want to go through all this trouble, being a close friend to her & “Uncle” to the kids for a long time, for some other guy to come along one day & sweep her off of her feet, & then what? What guy would want their girl’s ex around? She says that if she did get involved with someone else, he would have to deal with me being around. I’m a realist, that will never work. Plus if I think the kids & I are so hurt now, I can’t even imagine how much more pain we’re going to feel continuing this friendship, hoping & wishing it gets serious again, only to really become devastated if someone else does come along, then to have to end the friendship later. The kids already want me to be their stepfather. I already ordered the introductory pack & some vials. I changed my mind about not using the Ammo. If she gets any feelings of wanting to have sex in between, I want to be the only one she comes to for that. Right now she has no interest in other men or we wouldn’t even be hanging out now, so that’s another reason why I’m very optimistic about this whole thing. I’m also optimistic because I’ve heard stories of relationships being restored with pheromones where the circumstances were alot worse than mine. I just feel that I need to act fast while there is still time, even though I should’ve came across this site 4 months ago, then I probably wouldn’t be going through this right now, but there’s no need to dwell on that anymore. I see that in the introductory pack, Ammo World is a temporary replacement for A314 because it’s out of stock, which I see is one of the most valuable of all the pheremones. Now, I have a few questions & concerns: 1- Is there any significant difference between A314 & Ammo World? 2- Does alcohol/marijuana enhance the effects, make it worse or make any difference at all? 3- Will these pheromones affect her positively even if she’s on her period? 4- What does that free p105 pheromone do that comes with the pack? 5-If I wear them with her girlfriends around, will they start flirting with me too? & most importantly, 6- What can happen if she ever found out that I used pheromones on her? Also, would you be able to tell me the ratios of each pheromone to mix in the vial to get the exact effect I want & not OD & cause any negative vibes? If I need to post that in another section then I will. I plan on testing them by going out to a bar or something with friends before approaching her with them. I know I must sound crazy for wanting to continue, but I’m a hopeless romantic still in love & I’m forgiving & understanding & I still see something good in her, I just need to break through that wall she has up. I’m not ready to let her go yet. Again Pudleduk, I appreciate all the help!!! P.S. I forgot to mention that I don’t have any kids myself. Now, how many men do you know out there who don’t have kids, yet still accept their girlfriend’s kids & care for them like their own? Obviously & unfortunately, she doesn’t appreciate that right now. ---
**Author:** ![cod3freak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bc79bd/32.png) [@cod3freak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cod3freak)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2015, 9:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromones-to-help-me-get-my-gf-back-34-m-ct/64543/11 "2015-07-03T09:39:19Z")
… I have for many days been considering if I should post a response, Premo. Okay heres is the deal, balls to the wall here bro: 1. Stop. - Seriously, just let it go. No woman anywhere wants a man that shows affection for her kids/dog/cat/grandma/etc. in exchange for HER affection. That’s not a man, that’s a puppy. What you are doing is being nice to her kids in the hope she will like you more. Humans aren’t that stupid, they know they are being conned, and her reactions prove that. She’s on a yo-yo with her Ex and will be forever, no mones will break that; so don’t bother. 2. Rebounds - WTF are you thinking 😠! When has a rebound EVER worked out?!?!?! The fact that you realize it was a rebound should make you want to disentangle yourself even faster in LOVE or not. 3. Nice Guys - Get hurt because they are weak. Period. If you allow people to walk over you, or worse allow a woman to do so there is no way she can every love or respect you. Whats in it for her at this point is someone to babysit her kids. As SOON as she finds a man with a plan (not likely as us men wouldn’t want a woman with kids and tons of baggage) she’s gone. More likely she’ll just get disgusted with you from time to time, head to the bars and raw dog some guy in the parking lot – COME HOME to you and deny you. If she really hates your guts she’ll pull the IUD first and tell you its your baby… 4. Romantic - Hopeless romantic says it all. Your romantic viewpoint is hopeless. There is no hope that you will get what you want, mones or no mones. The real world just doesn’t work like this. 5. Exes - Exes are bad news ALL the time, doubly so when there are kids involved. Recall, there is at least one guy on the whole planet she thought was good enough to have her kids. That’s the guy that you gotta hope never decides he wants another taste. That’s the guy that she is in love / out of love with from time to time. I’d never want to live with that hanging over my head. EVER. A bit of advice from a recovered “Nice Guy”: go out live your life. You don’t need her, you are a MAN, she should want and need you. Saying the very word MAN should immediately send a mental image of a human male standing erect, chest thrust out, chin uplifted and ready to face the world, not chasing some woman who can’t make up her mind; babysitting HER kids by ANOTHER man. You’ll be much happier getting yourself away from her and building up your confidence. Women WILL find you attractive. Women without all the baggage, mental issues and kids, etc. I’m not down on kids, I have two, and want more 😃, but first and foremost I’m about my mission in life. The wife can tag along if she thinks I’m worth it, if not so be it. This is what you should be using the mones for, to got out meet hot women, and bed them, stroke your ego. You will have confidence and you will attract the special lady that’s the one you marry and have YOUR kids with. YOUR OWN KIDS. All this stuff about falling for her, breaking down walls, all that is just fluff, pop science, Red Book magazine crap. Dominance and submission. Males dominate, women submit, period. Trying to alter that just causes problems. Please understand that to dominate does not mean to abuse. It simply means to be the Alpha == to lead == to Be The Man == A314. However, like we see a lot on the boards wearing a mone without the required attitude will just confuse and cause problems. This is why its better to just work on the inside stuff first, use the mones to help with that. Your actions to date have established you as a solid Beta, and she knows that and can’t stand it; even if she is not able to understand why. Adding A314 will only confuse, because she’ll smell alpha but she’ll see beta. Sorry if I come off as harsh, but after a failed marriage + bankruptcy and I really wish someone had told me in the same way before. Good luck man. You can do it, and if you can’t fuck it - DIE trying; you only have to do that once, and it better than being a revolving door… ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2016, 7:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromones-to-help-me-get-my-gf-back-34-m-ct/64543/12 "2016-01-14T07:15:43Z")
Hi Premo I see you’ve already placed an order and used your GC. Hope you received it fine. 🙂. Don’t forget to share your test results my friend. You can create your own journal [here](https://pheromonetalk.com/c/men-s-journals/22) to keep notes of your dosages and usages, plus its different effects, including those you consider a “failure”. Journal helps a lot. Its your own phero time machine. For further questions, you can also create your own help-seeking thread [here](https://pheromonetalk.com/c/men-s-pheromone-advice-tricks-and-tips/45). Expert pheromone users usually browse this area. 🙂 Also, you should drop some feedback about your MX297 and p135 usage. We would love to hear how those precious molecules worked out for you. 🙂 You must send your feedback at [feedback@androtics.com](mailto:feedback@androtics.com) (Always enter MX# or p# in Subject Line). **You might just qualify for a Reporting User status by doing so. 🙂** Also, please drop a feedback here or via PM about how the shipping goes for you. Thanks! Chat soon! ---
**Author:** ![Lillian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lillian/32/1269_2.png) [@Lillian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lillian)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromones-to-help-me-get-my-gf-back-34-m-ct/64543/13 "2016-01-26T23:25:01Z")
Sad to say, I actually agree with Cod3Freak. I don’t have children of my own, but my own BF has children and nothing makes us women want to use the exit more than a man who doesn’t seem to have a certain courage for life itself and a pride and security in who he is…less than that, and we are simply rearing a child. Don’t get me wrong I love children, most women do…HOWEVER, that is NOT what we are looking for in a mate. I laughed at the SUBMIT part…I have only met one man that I would near submit to, unfortunately he cheated on me…the love of MY life, but those are the cards I allowed to be dealt. In order for a woman to WANT to SUBMIT with you, see a life with you, consider a possible “partnership” life with you, she has to see you as a “teammate” not a liability. If your presence is a financial, emotional, physical liability…you are unfortunately put in the “child” category and out of serious contention as an adequate mate. She does not want to date a “child” she wants to date someone she can lean on, consult, refer to, when times are tough, not cottle and hand hold…otherwise who will HELP HER when she may need?? It is part survival reflex on our part as in order to SUBMIT, we must be confident in WHAT we are submitting to. No woman wants a man that may lead her to be potentially, homeless, faced with a potential disease or overly dramatic and turbulent life that would be all the better without him. There is a saying “I can do bad all by myself” and a movie also…a woman will dismiss you if your presence in her life is detracting enough. I think the biggest fear I face as a woman is submitting to a man who cannot manage his finances properly (save money/invest/establish a sufficient household), cannot command his household or his affairs with a level of respect, and cannot be trusted to do any of the above…I’m certain there is much more that I can add, but the point is that you should IMO spend your time establishing WHO YOU ARE. Find out what it is you want FOR YOU, what you will accept and what you won’t and STAND UP FOR YOURSELF. By devoting effort to yourself, I feel you will begin to gain some of the confidence you lack, the pheromones can only do so much. Nothing is as sexy as a man with a “good spine” a stern chin and “set of balls”…The reason a lot of women fall for guys who are douchebags is THAT GUY will stand up for HIMSELF and she thinks IF he is ON HER SIDE, there is NOTHING he won’t do to ensure she is cared for as much as he cares about himself…unfortunately the mathematics in that assessment don’t always work out as such…but that’s the portion of experience that I can share. I can offer that most women won’t likely submit to a man that cannot prove to be their better or equal…I myself have learned a level of self sufficiency that puts the need for a man (not on that level) to petty shame. If you think on what I have written above, a man that will detract from my life instead of enhance it is in the “dismiss” or “liability” category. My own BF wonders how he could benefit me at all, to which I answer, be an additional plus in my life…the sex is good but women don’t commonly have trouble in that department, so we can get that elsewhere if it comes down to it. I consider him my equal and learn from him also just as he also learns from me. I discourage maintaining a rapport with the children in hopes of pursing her…it only complicates the problem, and while an emotion issue…it’s ok as a man to cry, but in front of the children made her job as a mother all the harder… I’m not a mom, but many of my friends now are…women will protect their children, emotionally and physically vigorously, and you possibly tipped yourself off as an emotional liability. These are only my viewpoints and I dearly hope you commit to YOURSELF and finding someone who is better suited to you. @cod3freak…thanks for being a great guy and hope you are happy and in a better state now. Each woman does want a great guy believe it or not, they just can’t manage a rug. I’m sorry you had to go through such a hardship, but glad for you that it is in your rear view mirror. 🙂 some scratches and scars, but you are not broken. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 3:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromones-to-help-me-get-my-gf-back-34-m-ct/64543/14 "2016-01-27T03:56:08Z")
Great text, Lil. ---
**Author:** ![Lillian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lillian/32/1269_2.png) [@Lillian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lillian)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-pheromones-to-help-me-get-my-gf-back-34-m-ct/64543/15 "2016-02-05T23:19:16Z")
I’ve given a bit more thought to my candid post also…I want to add as well something that a friend who is on his third marriage now has said to me… If you are with the right person, it’s not hard…he is married now 15 years (no idea how old he is…but he’s older) There is a “someone” for each of us. A lot of time we try to make anyone that “someone”. We like the package they come in, they are convenient, we are tired of dating, we like their way of looking at life, they meet a lot of the things we think we are looking for…the reasons go on… HOWEVER…when we find that someone, it’s just right, it’s not doubt it’s not gut wrenching angst and tribulation. Some people are blessed to get more than that “someone” in a life, others are lucky to get just the one and settle with the companionship of a partner or someone to share time with…but all of us try for the “SOMEONE” with verve. I share this having been in the position at one time of not understanding why and how and what to do; everything to make things better, to make it work…When that other person is not your “someone” there is no amount of trying for them, for “us” for…whatever reason that is not truly YOUR HAPPINESS" that is going to make it work…not now, not later, not ever. The “idea” of them and “us” does not meet the rigors of reality. If she thought you were worth it, she would also have treated you better…it doesn’t sound as if she is your “someone”… and by your description of her indecisive behavior it doesn’t sound as if you are hers… Find your someone, your friend, the one that compliments you more adequately…when you find that one…it your rearview mirror will be as if you dodged a bullet with this last experience.