# hello, the boxkutter needs you **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [January 14, 2009, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-the-boxkutter-needs-you/24855 "2009-01-14T01:06:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![boxkutter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58f4c7/32.png) [@boxkutter](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/boxkutter)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-the-boxkutter-needs-you/24855/1 "2009-01-14T01:06:13Z")
wats up pherotalk people, hope all is good, a breif description of myself, im 25yo Caribbean(yardie) guy, who is living in london, uk. a friend of mine briefly schooled me to [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) but i have never tried them before. I’m not really sceptical but would like to road test it for myself in my type of environment. I’m mainly interested to see how females react to them and curious if girls from different race and age react differently. Anyway i wanna order some today or tomorrow depending on any advice given. Firstly i want 1 to wear in clubs (usually alot of freaky jamaican females 😉) so im leaning towards “turn up the heat”, im not sure if i should opt for the 2.5 and wear more or the 5 and stick to the recomended amount, im open to any other suggestions be it dosage or product. i also want to try a “to-go” spray as a tester, something i can wear daily but will still get the females attention. All in all i love cologne so im willing to try things like this and report my results too thanks in advance bless ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-the-boxkutter-needs-you/24855/2 "2009-01-14T01:13:33Z")
First off, wait till you get your gift cert to order 😛 [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) sounds like a great bet for you for clubbing. I like it more than turn up the heat, which works a bit better to spice up an already existing sexual relationship. Ammo is also a better “everyday” product, whereas TUTH is more limited in it’s usefulness. At 25, you’ll definitely want to start with the regular strength products at first. There’s always room to graduate to the stronger product later, and remember that 2 sprays of regular strength = 1 of the double. Since you’re planning on using these at a crowded club, you shouldn’t have too much problem with using “too much” from a scent perspective. For other “everyday” suggestions, well it depends on what you want out of it. IG is good for boosting social status, IO is good for conversations, IShine just makes things happier, and IH makes conversations a bit deeper. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 1:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-the-boxkutter-needs-you/24855/3 "2009-01-14T01:16:54Z")
Hey boxkutter, welcome to the forums! Well, sounds like you know exactly what you’re looking for! I really don’t have any questions for you, so let’s get down to business. You mentioned getting Turn Up The Heat for the club atmosphere. That’s not a bad idea, but let me explain both Ammo and TUTH and i’ll let you decide which one would be better for you. Ammo is also a -none product with 2.5 mcg of -none in it, but is well buffered with [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) (13, i believe?) and has an added cologne cover scent pre-mixed with it. The social phero’s are in it to help prevent a -none OD, while the cover scent is really just a good idea… -none smells like BO. Now TUTH has the same amount of -none, but it is much more raw. Ammo adds some sexual spark to your conversations and interactions. TUTH is much more blunt. It basically says “im here for sex.” That being said, if this is your first experience with pheromones i would definitely NOT recommend you going for the 5 mcg variety of either Ammo or TUTH. -none can be a hard product to get a handle on and is pretty easy to get a ghosting effect with (at least from my experiences). It’s much better to get a 2.5mcg variety, in case your best amount is 3 sprays. With 5mcg you’d be stuck trying to spray 1.5 times, which will always be inaccurate. Now then, if you still decide to go with TUTH, probably the best tester you could get would be… Ammo! It’s buffered enough that you can wear it pretty much anywhere, while still a good attractant for the women. Hope you have fun with your trials and good luck with the women! Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![remmy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/remmy/32/2451_2.png) [@remmy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/remmy)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 1:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-the-boxkutter-needs-you/24855/4 "2009-01-14T01:27:31Z")
hi! both the guys gave you some really great advices for club uses 🙂 i thought id just add in a bit more.. for every day use you shoudl def. consider some of the instant lines. im a girl but i know some products are unisex and ive had some wonderful results with instant openess and instant honesty. i think instant openness is great if you want to have that first connection with ppl since people open up to you more and talk to you more. i also have some great times with instant honesty. dont let the name fool you because to me, it usually works to give off that “best friend” vibe, which is sometimes what you need to get closer to people. hope i helped a bit 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![boxkutter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58f4c7/32.png) [@boxkutter](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/boxkutter)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 2:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-the-boxkutter-needs-you/24855/5 "2009-01-14T02:05:22Z")
thanks for the advice, i usually mix up my cologne when i go clubbin (up to 4 different scents), would that be enough to distract from the BO scent of TUTH? (just learnt what that means). From what you guys have said and based on couple things i just read Ammo 2.5 sounds like my best bet as a newcomer. firstly because i can use it as an everydayer and basically it has the same -none as TUTH (which sounds like ammo without the buffers, correct me if im wrong) Then get maybe a little TUTH “To-go” for that raw boost in the club when things get freaky, and a open or shine to-go for fun. How does that sound? The only reservation i have is it worth spending the extra $20 for the ammo over the TUTH if im gonna be using other cologne anyway? Cos for the price Ammo i can get TUTH and 2 to-go’s. Martyk good lookin out on the gift cert, im gonna defiantly wait for it ---
**Author:** ![boxkutter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58f4c7/32.png) [@boxkutter](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/boxkutter)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 2:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-the-boxkutter-needs-you/24855/6 "2009-01-14T02:07:15Z")
also is shine better than openess at boosting my mood ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-the-boxkutter-needs-you/24855/7 "2009-01-14T02:26:05Z")
Well, if you are using your own cologne, you may find the ammo scent to be too strong if you try to wear them both at the same time. But then again you loose out on some of the extra stuff in ammo. It’s a tough call. But your own cologne will probably be strong enough to cover TUTH (and the socials as well if you don’t dig the scent they have). Ishine is more of a mood booster, but I do find that IO boosts my mood quite a bit as well. Tisha distributes the gift certs, it shouldn’t be too long till she rolls through. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-the-boxkutter-needs-you/24855/8 "2009-01-14T03:51:56Z")
Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 My name is Tisha and I am the resident hostess/phero guide here on the forum. I am glad you decided to join us. I agree AMMO would be great in regular strength for your situation. It comes in to-go size as well. You can customize the scent in that section of the store but the scent is part of the allure and aids in diffusion which is extremely important with mones. TUTH you should be fine with as well. Your 25 and as long as you just use it in sexually charged atmospheres like clubs, parties, with a comforting social it will work fine. Of course you lose a little versatility. Its good on second dates to but can come on to strong for first dates. I suggest Ishine to go with them, Warm charismatic uplifting, Its a great companion to both of the above and great on its own. If you have questions just ask. **Your GC is on its way** 😃 Tisha