# Hello there new to the forums **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [October 3, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299 "2010-10-03T21:04:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![uamaverick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@uamaverick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/uamaverick)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299/1 "2010-10-03T21:04:40Z")
My name is jim I am from nashville tn orginally nyc 30 male white atheletic im a very shy person and such every girl i know likes me only as a best friend etc i can never get a girl to want me or not the types of girls i want im in love with a girl i know she does has some feelings for me but we cant get past the BEST Friend thing and hope to give it a little boost past. ---
**Author:** ![JAYCEE1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@JAYCEE1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JAYCEE1)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299/2 "2010-10-03T21:36:39Z")
Welcome Jim! You might look into the “fallout effect.” It involves using A314 + IH on women that you spend time with. It’s not instant, but it’s worth looking into for you. For the instant effects, look at [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) + IShine. Each is great a a stand-alone and they make a powerful combo too! IG is also a good choice. Oh, and for help with shyness, I’d recommend CTTM2. That should fix you right up. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![uamaverick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@uamaverick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/uamaverick)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 10:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299/3 "2010-10-03T22:48:23Z")
let me clarify more about this girl.. she is my best best best friend ive known her for 4 yrs she is younger just turned 21. she just broke up with her bf. she has let slipped everyonce in a while that she find me attractive would be with me if she didnt have a bf, then one day she was like god u look good ur really hot i like u like this she was gonna kiss me then stopped bc of bf. shes always told me how i would be great to her she knows im a great guy would never hurt her etc. we spend like every day together we do nothing but hang out every day. and when i confronted her she was like i dont know why i said that i dont see you like that ur a great friend etc. im madly in love with this girl i would do anything for her. ---
**Author:** ![uamaverick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@uamaverick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/uamaverick)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 10:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299/4 "2010-10-03T22:56:21Z")
i was thinking IO and AMMO and TUTH stronger strengths maybe like the 2x and 4x ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299/5 "2010-10-04T00:57:54Z")
> [@uamaverick](#): > > i was thinking IO and AMMO and TUTH stronger strengths maybe like the 2x and 4x I wouldn’t go there just yet. Actually Ammo 2x might be okay, but definitely not TUTh 4x. Unless you are in a regular sexual relationship with someone, TUTH 4x is just too much, esp with strangers. I recommend AMMO + IS to attract girls 22 to 30. AMMO + IO might attract younger girls from ages 18 to 25. However, mileages vary between each person, so you should try both. After attracting the girl, you can throw in some IH (AMMO + IShine + IH). However, for now, I would get AMMO 1x, TUTH 1x, IH, Instant shine, and Instant Openness ---
**Author:** ![JAYCEE1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@JAYCEE1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JAYCEE1)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 1:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299/6 "2010-10-04T01:50:02Z")
FZ is a place you don’t want to be. What happened after she told you she thinks you are hot? That would have been a good time to escalate. Four years is too long. Try some kino on her. Touch her, bump her leg with yours, take her by the hand then let her hand go. Threaten to spank her ass when she does something, then spank her ass when she does that thing. You also need to interact with other women, especially when your target is around. Find yourself a good website/forum for pick-up/pick-up artist info. There are people on here that really know their stuff with pick-up, but that’s not the purpose of this forum. At 21, treating her like your bratty sister might help you out. Maybe. Since she’s 21, you might try some MX390 on her, but ammo + IS are good choices too. I think you have a good chance with this girl if you work it right. [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) can be a little hard to target against one specific girl. But they can help make you better with women generally. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![uamaverick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@uamaverick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/uamaverick)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 7:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299/7 "2010-10-04T07:00:49Z")
as i said shes been with a guy for almost the whole time ive known her we are the best of friends… it was wierd when she told me that was a wierd situation i was to shy to push it i shoulda and regret it she was going to kiss me but then didnt because of her having a bf… now i get i dont see u like that etc. and i dont i think shes just to scared bc of our friendship of losing our friendship. my boy even told me see get on one girl and dont look at others etc. i need to make her jealous etc i notice when i do talk about other girls she kinda gets the jealous look. she just turned 21 but shes alot older for her age shes been through alot and been on her own since im just not good with girls in general as it is ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 7:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299/8 "2010-10-04T07:20:52Z")
Go with 2x AMMO + 3x IH for awhile. It might help turn the tide in your favor! ---
**Author:** ![uamaverick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@uamaverick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/uamaverick)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 9:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299/9 "2010-10-05T21:44:00Z")
i hate being in the friend zone it sucks… i am so in love with this girl it hurts. i am going to try ammo with IH and get a bottle of tuth too test it out ---
**Author:** ![uamaverick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@uamaverick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/uamaverick)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 9:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299/10 "2010-10-05T21:44:35Z")
well what do you all this IH or IO which one ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299/11 "2010-10-05T21:52:59Z")
> [@uamaverick](#): > > well what do you all this IH or IO which one I like IH better. IO helps girls open up and desire to talk to you. IH helps girls feel connected and intimate, which could help you take things to the next level. Don’t forget to throw in AMMO though. Once, you guys get really “close” add in TUTH for final close. Don’t use it, until things get hot and intimate though, or you might risk her resenting and avoiding you. ---
**Author:** ![uamaverick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@uamaverick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/uamaverick)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299/12 "2010-10-06T00:01:13Z")
sounds good to me i will order when i get my certificate ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299/13 "2010-10-06T00:17:12Z")
you might have to wait till tomorrow. In the mean time, go over to the men’s section or use the SEARCH FUNCTION, and read about some products that we recommended ---
**Author:** ![uamaverick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@uamaverick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/uamaverick)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299/14 "2010-10-07T15:18:17Z")
i still havent got the cert. pm too ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 10:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299/15 "2010-10-08T22:40:44Z")
> [@uamaverick](#): > > i still havent got the cert. pm too Mickaelia should be along to give it to you. I believe her internet was down yesterday, so she might be a little behind in doing the GC’s. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 1:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299/16 "2010-10-10T01:40:58Z")
Welcome to Pherotalk Maverick! Sounds to me like a situation that most of us ladies get ourselves into. We don’t see a good thing infront us and keep chasing after the idiots. It is always good in these situations to make her feel that she can loose you esp to someone else and with the use of pheromones to drive her to want to hold on to you harder. The men can explain about this even better. Your gc was issued. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![uamaverick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@uamaverick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/uamaverick)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2010, 5:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299/17 "2010-10-10T05:45:08Z")
where do i get my GC ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 6:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299/18 "2010-10-11T06:56:51Z")
> [@uamaverick](#): > > where do i get my GC the email u signed up your account with! ---
**Author:** ![uamaverick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@uamaverick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/uamaverick)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 2:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299/19 "2010-10-13T02:58:30Z")
yeh found it in junk folder… ok guys heres there deal i ordered ammo 2x IH 2x and tuth… what should i do me and the girl are going away for the weekend to a casino. were going to be sharing the same bed n be right next to eachother the whole weekend how should i wear this all i know suggestion is not to put the tuth yet but should i put small amount at bed time etc best advice please we are leaving friday coming back sunday ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 3:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299/20 "2010-10-13T03:31:25Z")
wear 2 shots of ammo and 2 shots of IH when you guys go out in the evening. After the dinner, before you return to the hotel, spray 1 shot of TUTH under ur shirt… so when you take that thing off… she will be soaked 😃 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-new-to-the-forums/42299.md?page=2)