# Hello there. Pheromones for Sex Appeal, Great Sex w/ GF. M/28/Europe

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-pheromones-for-sex-appeal-great-sex-w-gf-m-28-europe/65776>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [March 18, 2016, 9:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-pheromones-for-sex-appeal-great-sex-w-gf-m-28-europe/65776 "2016-03-18T09:18:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![adrian.adrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/50afbb/32.png) [@adrian.adrian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/adrian.adrian)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 9:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-pheromones-for-sex-appeal-great-sex-w-gf-m-28-europe/65776/1 "2016-03-18T09:18:23Z")

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Hello, I’m new on this forum and I’m from Eastern Europe. I’m 28 years old and I want to be more appealing to women, not necessary to end up having sex. But when I’m with my girlfriend I want to have wild sex.  
What do you recommend in my case?  
Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Spectrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Spectrum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spectrum)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 9:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-pheromones-for-sex-appeal-great-sex-w-gf-m-28-europe/65776/2 "2016-03-18T09:39:32Z")

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Hello and welcome to the forum.

With your Gf : TUTH 1x (2 sprays ). TUTH is for removing last minute hesitations . Along with TAC. (Read more about TAC here on this forum).

Just remember TAC is experimone series, hence not covered under money back guarantee.

For Appealing to other women: Start with AMMO + IS . [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) will pose you as a potent BF material. and IS will make you and nearby peoples happier.

Take care

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**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 2:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-pheromones-for-sex-appeal-great-sex-w-gf-m-28-europe/65776/3 "2016-03-18T14:51:28Z")

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Hi Adrian,

Welcome to this forum.

Spectrum’s suggestion above are great. You can also consider getting the men’s starter pack which contains all these products, plus more for you to try (except the TAC). The kit comes at a discounted price.

Please tell us more about yourself, your personnality, the age of your girlfriend and why do you think there is less passion in bed? These answers can help us refine the recommendations. Plus, by telling us more, you will be eligible to a 25$ gift certificate to help you with your first buy.

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2016, 1:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-pheromones-for-sex-appeal-great-sex-w-gf-m-28-europe/65776/4 "2016-03-19T01:25:43Z")

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Hi Adrian,

Welcome to the site. I usually suggest going with the **Men’s Ultimate Kit** as you would get everything you need to get started and by far this is the best deal with all the items you get. But if you don’t get it here are the best ones just for you.

**Ammo** You will need this one. For attraction and best standalone for your goals. Nice cologne scent to and very balanced.

**TUTH** Now this will be best for your GF and is best used for LMR(Last Minute Resistance). I would get the bigger 30ML bottle as it is only $30 if you do buy separate.

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**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-pheromones-for-sex-appeal-great-sex-w-gf-m-28-europe/65776/5 "2016-03-20T18:23:27Z")

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Hello Adrian!

Welcome to PheromoneTalk! 🙂

Get the AMMO, TUTH, CTTM2, IH, IG. Or if you do have the budget, try the Ultimate Pheromone Introductory Pack. 🙂

Your GC is now in your email! 🙂

Happy Pheroing! 🙂

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**Author:** ![adrian.adrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/50afbb/32.png) [@adrian.adrian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/adrian.adrian)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-pheromones-for-sex-appeal-great-sex-w-gf-m-28-europe/65776/6 "2016-10-20T21:23:10Z")

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Hello everyone,

Thank you for your answers and suggestions. I reply to this kind of late but better later than never. Honestly, I ordered only TUTH because I never used pheromones and I wanted to test this one to see if they really work and have effect or not.  
And I emptied the bottled, consumed it entirely, but actually with no results. No better or wilder sex with my GF, didn’t make her more horny or more interested in sex and so on. Basically, I didn’t see any effect besides the fact that she likes the smell of my “new perfume”.  
I tried it outside in social interactions to see if other girls might react to it but still nothing. So from my first experience with pheromones, I don’t believe that pheros really work. I was in doubt from the beginning because I didn’t see any studies that can prove they work and it also sounds a little bit like a “magic pill”: you just spray some pheros and you get this (girls, sex, better social life, etc.) and I don’t believe in magic pills.  
So these are my thoughts after my experience. I’m more than eager that you guys will prove me that I’m wrong.

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 11:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-pheromones-for-sex-appeal-great-sex-w-gf-m-28-europe/65776/8 "2016-10-21T11:28:18Z")

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Hi Adrian,

Sorry to hear you did not get what you are looking for. I have found with TUTH that it can be a bit tricky to use starting out. Androtics does offer a guarantee if you are not happy and would at least contact them and see what would work out.

For me if anyone is a skeptic(as I was myself at first) I suggest IShine and spray on your neck and see the self effects for yourself. I suggest this one because it is more social and works on everyone and in any situation. This is the one that made me a believer.

I think there is a misconception with pheromones that a lot of people think they make you an all star and they are magic when they are not, they just enhance what you have pretty much.

Well I hope you do contact Androtics and let us know what happens.

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**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2016, 3:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-pheromones-for-sex-appeal-great-sex-w-gf-m-28-europe/65776/9 "2016-10-21T15:53:22Z")

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Hi adrian.adrian!

I respect your feedback. It only confirms what everybody knows around. That TUTH is used for last minute resistance and not for social interactions of the “foreplay” part of the seduction oplan. So there’s no need to prove you “wrong” because your experience with TUTH is not unique, not the first one reported/recorded. 🙂

TUTH surely gives off a horny vibe, telling everyone that you are one horny man, and as explained by many users here, only a girl who is in the mood, or okay to the idea of bedding you, will respond positively to the vibe.

But with the limited info you’ve shared we can’t pinpoint where the problem lies. So perhaps you can tell us more about your experience. You may check out the journal of Conjurator for example, to have an idea on how to present a report. We are interested too to know what happened.

I would also like to point that in cognizance of the difference in body compositions each of us have, TUTH would give off different results to others, although it is a very few special cases. One of which is our veteran 1Alpha’s experience with it. It also did not work for him as opposed to the claims of the majority of TUTH users. But does not make the experience of the majority untrue.

And yeah, justin is right. If you choose not to share your experience here in the open forums, you may submit a report via email to [support@androtics.com](mailto:support@androtics.com) and file a claim. 🙂

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**Author:** ![adrian.adrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/50afbb/32.png) [@adrian.adrian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/adrian.adrian)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-pheromones-for-sex-appeal-great-sex-w-gf-m-28-europe/65776/10 "2016-10-22T18:36:34Z")

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Hi Dee,

The social experiment was just to see if it has any effect outside in the world, in normal circumstances. The purpose of buying TUTH was to improve my sexual life with my GF, make her hornier, make her desire more for sex, make her wilder or stuff like this…I think you got the picture. It’s not about overcome the last minute resistance because it’s not the case, but I described in my first post what I want to achieve and this one was the most recommended phero. So I bought it.  
From what I saw on androtics website, I have to ship the empty bottle to them if I want a refund but to ship it all the way to US from my country, I think will cost more than the cost of the TUTH.

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2016, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-pheromones-for-sex-appeal-great-sex-w-gf-m-28-europe/65776/11 "2016-10-22T22:00:49Z")

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Hey there, welcome, and sorry to hear about your experience.

A couple thoughts..

First of all I didn’t have much luck wearing TUTH either, in fact I cannot think of a single time where it worked or worked well.  
However, when I pair it with other -mones it is golden for me. Women loooove me and they literally eat the -mones off my neck, no joke, and they want sex from me like crazy.  
So you aren’t the only one in this boat. Some products don’t work for people, as was mentioned..

Secondly, there is a product called IS. This thing was a complete disaster for me. No matter how I wore it or what I wore it with it was worse than if I had no -mones on at all. I repelled people left and right and I had a ‘crash’ feeling hours later. It was useless to me.  
But I never gave up on -mones entirely. And I certainly don’t think there’s anything wrong with -mones, just not everything works for everybody.

Furthermore, I’m assuming you got the togo bottle so you shouldn’t be out of pocket that much right? And I’m also assuming you tested 1 spray, then 2, then so on? If so.. You should have surely got to a point that you had too much on and ghosted people and repelled them to the point that they strayed from you. If so, you’d know pheromones work, at least in some way.

Most people recommend getting the starter pack and reading a lot of journals around here so you know what you’re getting yourself into first.

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**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-pheromones-for-sex-appeal-great-sex-w-gf-m-28-europe/65776/12 "2016-10-23T11:21:15Z")

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> [@adrian.adrian](#):
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> Hi Dee,
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> The social experiment was just to see if it has any effect outside in the world, in normal circumstances. The purpose of buying TUTH was to improve my sexual life with my GF, make her hornier, make her desire more for sex, make her wilder or stuff like this…I think you got the picture. It’s not about overcome the last minute resistance because it’s not the case, but I described in my first post what I want to achieve and this one was the most recommended phero. So I bought it.  
> From what I saw on androtics website, I have to ship the empty bottle to them if I want a refund but to ship it all the way to US from my country, I think will cost more than the cost of the TUTH.

I understand your objective. That’s why, I did not recommend TUTH alone, as can be seen in my first response to you. 🙂

Regarding your concern on returning an empty bottle, try placing a claim anyway and let them know about what you think. I am confident AD would find ways to make you smile.

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**Author:** ![adrian.adrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/50afbb/32.png) [@adrian.adrian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/adrian.adrian)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 7:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-pheromones-for-sex-appeal-great-sex-w-gf-m-28-europe/65776/13 "2016-11-04T07:54:12Z")

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Hello again,

As you suggested, I contacted AD for their guarantee. Like I expected, they asked to ship the bottle and when I told them the shipping will be more expensive than the refund, they simply said: “I totally understand and it totally sucks that you did not get the best out of your [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/).” So, no refund if I don’t ship the bottle.

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 10:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-pheromones-for-sex-appeal-great-sex-w-gf-m-28-europe/65776/14 "2016-11-04T10:58:45Z")

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So what would you like to see done and did you voice your concern with Androtics?

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**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 12:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-pheromones-for-sex-appeal-great-sex-w-gf-m-28-europe/65776/15 "2016-11-05T12:53:49Z")

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‘’… it totally sucks’’ (??). I doubt strongly that AD’s customer service personnel would use those words. My spider sense tells me this quote might not be accurate.

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**Author:** ![adrian.adrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/50afbb/32.png) [@adrian.adrian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/adrian.adrian)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-pheromones-for-sex-appeal-great-sex-w-gf-m-28-europe/65776/16 "2016-11-05T18:47:56Z")

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I made a screenshot to my gmail to see the reply I got: [https://snag.gy/iljYGA.jpg](https://snag.gy/iljYGA.jpg). I covered the name of the person because I don’t want to point any finger. If your spider sense needs more proof I will share the screen with TeamViewer 🙂

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**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2016, 12:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-there-pheromones-for-sex-appeal-great-sex-w-gf-m-28-europe/65776/17 "2016-11-06T12:15:06Z")

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Normally, I will discourage you to do that.

But after reading your exchanges, I initially think it’s better if you reveal the whole conversation. Because it will show the entire context of that response you snapped and posted in that link of yours.

On second thought, please don’t. This is not the right place for that. 🙂

I remember telling you to “try and file a claim anyway”. That’s premised on the fact that you know the rules in claiming the guarantee. I’m short of telling you to ask another way to deal with the matter without you having some feeling that you are in the losing end. That’s what the “anyway” means, exploring other solution to that matter. Because I am confident that they can really find ways to pamper you. 🙂

Instead, you responded something that resulted to that screenshotted message.
