# Hello World! (or at least this corner of it) **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [May 25, 2008, 1:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world-or-at-least-this-corner-of-it/13077 "2008-05-25T01:28:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Noggin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a6a055/32.png) [@Noggin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noggin)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 1:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world-or-at-least-this-corner-of-it/13077/1 "2008-05-25T01:28:08Z")
I’m a 27yo guy in the DC area. Lean and physically fit type O if you think those things matter. Put me in the skeptics category (I figure at least I’ll get some mild scents to wear). I tend to be chatty and have no problem getting women to getting women to talk my ear off - but I have trouble getting things to a more flirty level. I’ve fallen into the friend zone a few times and later found out she was interested but too shy to flirt much or come right out and say she was interested. There is a girl now who I liked a lot at first but dismissed thinking she wasn’t interested only to find her new boyfriend looks/acts/sound just like me - totally freaky. Guess I missed my chance there as well. I have some vague ideas of which mixes might be appropriate but would like to hear suggestions. I go on a lot of first dates so I figure I’ll have some chances to put a handful of the to go mixes to test. ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 2:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world-or-at-least-this-corner-of-it/13077/2 "2008-05-25T02:21:15Z")
Hello Nogging and welcome to this forum! Dont worry about being skeptics: everyone was just like you until we saw how [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) really works! Since you are already chatty and dont need others to be too chatty too, you can leave out io for now, unless you want to make them more confortable around your conversations and participate more. I think the best product for you now is ammo. This one will improve your confident a little, just enough to begin to flirt. Women will also be attracted and respond well to everything you say. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world-or-at-least-this-corner-of-it/13077/3 "2008-05-25T02:22:15Z")
Hello and welcome to the forum. Many of us were skeptics when we first came here but after working with these products we all pretty much believe in them now. I would recommend ammo - it has enough none in it to let the ladies know you are interested. I would also recommend IH - it will help create feelings of connection which can only help. ---
**Author:** ![v0m1t](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/v0m1t/32/520_2.png) [@v0m1t](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/v0m1t)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 3:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world-or-at-least-this-corner-of-it/13077/4 "2008-05-25T03:48:35Z")
Yes yes… You definatly need ammo. How I wish I had added that with my first order. Also its a great standalone product so it would be alright if thats the only thing you order now. ---
**Author:** ![Jasx69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasx69/32/2413_2.png) [@Jasx69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasx69)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 4:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world-or-at-least-this-corner-of-it/13077/5 "2008-05-25T04:11:24Z")
Hello Noggin Welcome To PheroTalk 🙂 Everyones a skeptic at one point or another regarding Pheromones, but as long as you have an open mind you should be fine 🙂 I would also go with Ammo and Instant Honesty if you keep falling into the friendzone and want to innitiate something on a more intimate level with this girl Ammo will draw her attention towards yourself while Instant Honesty keeps the conversation going on a deeper connecting level. Maybe some [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) depending and judging by her moods if she is mood then this will help if not get Instant Shine Instead to top it off. Welcome again “J” ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 6:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world-or-at-least-this-corner-of-it/13077/6 "2008-05-25T06:55:10Z")
Hi there, welcome to the forum It is normal to be skeptical. You can read the results in this forum. The posts are written by real users. You can also try the togo bottles which is much economical to test out the result. Standard products come with money back guarantee too. For the start try AMmo as suggested by mb. It is an all-rounder product for general attraction. It is also provide mild sexual attraction. Good luck ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 10:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world-or-at-least-this-corner-of-it/13077/7 "2008-05-25T10:38:02Z")
Hello Welcome to Pherotalk Yes many a skeptic have been surprised at the results they have seen using mones. We welcome skeptics they are the best testers. 😉 I suggest you start with to-go bottles of a few of the standard products. AMMO ,IO, Ishine ,IH this will give you a good feel for the products can do. Please just keep in mind they can and cant do by reading this… > [@What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558): > > A lot of people come in to the forum and read all the wonderful stories about peoples experiences with [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). New people end up trying them out with high expectations and usually as they get to know the product those expectations are met to some extent and sometimes not because there expectations were to high But I think its best for people to have a realistic view on what exactly they can and can not do. I get a lot of PM’s from people asking me why "they couldn’t get there cheati… If you have any questions let us know. 😃 **Your GC will be in your email box shortly** 😃 Have fun Tish ---
**Author:** ![Noggin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a6a055/32.png) [@Noggin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noggin)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 1:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world-or-at-least-this-corner-of-it/13077/8 "2008-05-25T13:28:27Z")
Thanks everyone, and Tisha especially. Ammo wasn’t really on my radar. I’m a bit afraid of the scent - I have a sensitive nose and tend to only apply scents very sparingly. Ammo seemed strong in the scent department than than the instants. I was definitely planning on the togo bottles for my first order. My skepticism isn’t so much about what [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) can do, but whether these particular products worked. I found this site after reading original research and wondering if anyone sold this stuff (looking for oxytocin originally). I spent a few hours reading threads here and reading more peer reviewed research. Experiments always involve human pheromones or synthetic ones sprayed directly up the nose or injected directly in the blood. If it does work I find it odd they can survive in alcohol (since it tends to denature proteins) and can survive storage at ambient temperatures (since in the lab they are stored at -20°C). So I am unsure whether these delicate molecules can survives shipping/storage without breaking down and whether they can arrive in sufficient quantities in your targets system (perhaps the storage issues are why you don’t offer any Oxytocin). ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2008, 2:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world-or-at-least-this-corner-of-it/13077/9 "2008-05-25T14:01:06Z")
Ocytocin is highly volatile. Although it is a hormone not a pheromone, It is not released in the same fashion as pheromones because it is burned up in the gastrointestinal tract before it can ever be released pheromonally. It remains in the blood stream and only has a short life span of 3 minutes. It never reaches the brain because it is blocked by the blood brain barrier. No it is not sold here to my knowledge although it could be one of the test putatives. The pheromones here are synthetic [human pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and musks. All pheromones on the market are except the ones made in china which are usually animal pheromones. They are chemical molecules that mimic natural pheromones meaning there molecular makeup is the same therefore they evoke the same responses. This is why alcohol doesn’t effect them. The alcohol simply carries the molecule. Whoops I forgot to add Human Musks and Pheromones are lipids they are not living organisms. Alcohol is a great carrier because it preserves them. Alcohol can kill bacteria which is what can damage pheromones. Tisha