# Hello World **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [August 12, 2011, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world/51766 "2011-08-12T06:07:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DBCooper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c77e96/32.png) [@DBCooper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DBCooper)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world/51766/1 "2011-08-12T06:07:51Z")
I’m 32. I’m self employed as a horse handler. I’ve been studying pick up for about 4 years. I’m past RAFC now. I’ve had 2 girlfriends, one was an older HB 7. I remember I kissed the prettiest girl in the club one time, she was an 18 yo HB 9. I live in an area where there is not much chance to get good at approaching groups of women, although when I go to the city I do get some practice in. My confidence after these experiences, whilst high, is not quite bulletproof yet. This is why I’m interested in the science of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/). Haven’t made the complete, utter transformation to Alpha yet. But I’d say the chances are quite promising that I one day will. I’d like to get another younger girlfriend between HB 8 - 10 and secondary one for group sex. My determination is unbounded: I have the confidence I can achieve the remaining confidence. I’m a nice guy, but one who does not spend wads of money on chicks and give them unearned compliments etc. I can be guilty of being a bit too serious; not playful enough. But I’m a bit of a bad boy too. I’m well known to the local court, but actually the prosecution haven’t had much luck convicting me of anything for many years now. I know a bit about the law. Can be very slippery. I’m a bit what you would call “slow”. More a methodical person. Although with NLP this is changing I feel. I can come out with some sensational, witty, catchy slogans at times. The sort of things headline setters working for newspapers would admire. I want the benefit of what you people know. I hope you can steer me in the direction of the right mix of products for my needs. And I want to share my findings and add to this body of knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![looifookmeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@looifookmeng](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/looifookmeng)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 6:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world/51766/2 "2011-08-12T06:22:54Z")
Hi there DBcooper. Thats pretty cool that your a horse handler.Must be pretty fun,particularly if you get to ride them a lot.Thats good that your already studying pickup as its a really good compliment to the pheromones.They work the best when you already have good social skills as they help set the mood and the vibe and you do the talking and make the effort.If the moods already set,it makes pickup considerably easier though(^\_^)Thats good that your already making steps to change for the better,thats always a good attitude to have here.This links pretty good for understanding the effects of pheromones and what they can do. [What pheromones can do and what they cant Updated](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558) ([What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558)) You should definitely get the 25$ gift certificate so that you can get some to-go’s to test out more or less risk free.This will let you try the products and see if they work for you.Think this is one of the only places that does it and its awesome.Think youve covered most things but you can check out the link to the requirements below. [How do I qualify for a $25 gift certificate?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934) Thats okay not to spend large amounts of money on women.If you do all the time,then they tend to lose appreaciation of it.Haha,sounds like you have a lot of vibes that would be fun to try out.If your already a bad boy,you could give instant jerk a try to give you more of that vibe but be careful when you use it as people can get aggressive with it on.If you would like a younger girlfriend,instant gentleman is very good and appeals to the girls as it gives an alpha male image of high status.Ammo also could work as it gives you a sexy ,cool vibe that girls may like.Either one paired with instant shine is pretty good for picking up girls and would make a good starter for you.Could also take a look at instant openness if you want people to be more chatty and approach you or instant honesty to increase bonding.Could try tuth also but you will have to be careful with the effects as it can be negative sometimes if you use it at the wrong times but may help get you the group sex if you use it wisely.You could go for a314 after testing instant gentleman for a while if you want something stronger.It can come across a bit intimidating at times if you dont buffer it though.I listed down some stickies below that may interest you.All the best and hope things go well for you.Im sure you will fit right in. [An Introduction to Mones; Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Length of](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003) [Updated AndroticsDirect Pheromones for newbies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/updated-androticsdirect-pheromones-for-newbies/39802) [The Snook’s big book o’ pheros for rookies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-snooks-big-book-o-pheros-for-rookies/5879) [Pheromones for Pickup: Attraction, Comfort, Seduction](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832) [What works: CLUBBING/“PROWL” MIXES (eg sex: as in One Night Stands)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-clubbing-prowl-mixes-eg-sex-as-in-one-night-stands/224) ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 6:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world/51766/3 "2011-08-12T06:30:36Z")
**Hello and be welcome here at Pherotalk !** **Cool to see that you´ve found this magnificant community 😉** I´m sure you´re already way ahead a Recovering Average Frustrated Jump … or better past Wussie 😃 Pheromones and PU are a deadly combination … you can ask Steve … he´s really good in PU .. you will find him at your friendlist .. use the toll free number 😉 Well you´ve had some cool success with women already .. you must have been doing something right … do you agree ? One of the golden PU - rules is not to spoil the girls with gifts and buy your way into their panties … but sometimes it´s still appropriate to buy them an icecream ( but only if you think they can gain a few kilos .. hahahahaah ) i´m reading at the moment .. how to become an Alpha Male … well .. i think it´s a good book for inner Game as well you could check the Inner Game programm by Ross Jeffries . btw … what kinda Material you´re learning .. or using ? have you heard about MLF da Babe … i´m doing some German thing that´s similar and it makes me more playful … there´s a clear differece in my Game … ( it´s Hypnosis … reprogramming some limited beliefs .. you have to buy it .. there´s only a few mins long teaser free available .) and there are way more other Hypnosis … things out there … you have to look .. Hmm a lot to type here .. hehe You´re saying that you´re a horse dealer … does this mean you´re selling horses who are there for gaining meat … do not call me a pervert … it´s quite popular in France or Poland … or in Bavaria where i live .. However . i really love Horses .. my Sisters Husband has been a professional show Jumper ( i hope it´s the right term ) … and his sister is still organizing ther parcours for such spectacles here in Germany … Where you live you say it´s difficult to approach groups of women … hmm that´s sad .. where is that horrendous place … haha **Studiying more NLP and now digging into the world of pheromones will take you to the next level** Would you mind to tell me where you see your sticking points with your Game where are your strengts .. where are your weaknessess … mostly the problems are at the Rapport phase … building attraction is one thing .. but transistioning into the Rapport Phase is another problem ( ahh not ot forget .. keep your eyes open for Radman .. he´s fantastic in PU as well .. he will surely help you .. drop him an PM .. Radman is such a cool guy ) In what kinda Venues do you want to use the mones … when out in Bars .. Clubs … you surely know what i mean … or at the daygame ? well … i think looifookmeng has covered the products and what they do … follow the links in his post and you´ll be quite busy .. but you´re gonna have a marvellous start with mones this way Im sure you´ve qualified for the GC already … give Mickaelia .. that´s the AD Sweetheart one or 2 days to send it out to you … once she´s reading this thread she will gladly hand it over to you … so for now LET´S SADDLE THE HORSES … and get the girls \*\*Pago ( ps … forget about the other stuff you´ve been mentioning .. you know which one 😉 you´re going to get better things now ! ) \*\* ---
**Author:** ![DBCooper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c77e96/32.png) [@DBCooper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DBCooper)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 10:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world/51766/4 "2011-08-12T10:15:17Z")
“Well you´ve had some cool success with women already .. you must have been doing something right … do you agree ?” Yes, I’ve had a few successes with desirable women. I’ve read pick up for years now. I like [Fast Seduction: The Ultimate FREE Seduction Resource](http://www.fastseduction.com). I just try my best to use whatever teachings come to me when I’m out in the field. “:btw … what kinda Material you´re learning .. or using ?” I’ve got Derek Vitalio’s “Masculinity Enhancement” NLP set and his “Blissnossis”. The former seems to have done me some good, but I’m interested in hearing about any better, updated NLP products there are out there. With the latter, I found that helped in my last relationship. That and David Shade’s collected works. She even said how good sex is hard to find. “have you heard about MLF da Babe … i´m doing some German thing that´s similar and it makes me more playful … there´s a clear differece in my Game …” I’d be interested to follow any links about that. “You´re saying that you´re a horse dealer … does this mean you´re selling horses who are there for gaining meat …” No. I train miniature ponies to pull a carriage around. "Would you mind to tell me where you see your sticking points with your Game where are your strengts .. where are your weaknessess … mostly the problems are at the Rapport phase … building attraction is one thing .. but transistioning into the Rapport Phase is another problem" Sticking points. Group approaches. I think my voice would be better if it was deep, baratone. I know girls do get easily bored, but I think I need work on keeping the attraction going. I think I could be more talkative. I never used to think of myself as funny but had a female friend I took out last week in hysterics. I’ve been cracking people up with my dry wit more often I’ve noticed. Strengths. I seem to be able to do very smooth number closes, 99% success rate. I’m not needy: not in the slightest. In fact, one night I kissed the prettiest girl in the pub and executed a perfect takeaway much to her dismay. According to one source, only 1 in 10,000 men are good in bed, and I live in an area of 10,000 people 🙂 “In what kinda Venues do you want to use the mones … when out in Bars .. Clubs … you surely know what i mean … or at the daygame ?” I go out sarging in pubs mainly. When I visit the city I do a bit of daygame. “( ps … forget about the other stuff you´ve been mentioning .. you know which one you´re going to get better things now ! )” Yes. Bring on next payday! ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 10:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world/51766/5 "2011-08-12T10:35:45Z")
**Yes, I’ve had a few successes with desirable women. I’ve read pick up for years now. I like [Fast Seduction: The Ultimate FREE Seduction Resource](http://www.fastseduction.com). I just try my best to use whatever teachings come to me when I’m out in the field.** **Huch … the good old Fast Seduction board … great source .. some serious stuff ..** **I’ve got Derek Vitalio’s “Masculinity Enhancement” NLP set and his “Blissnossis”. The former seems to have done me some good, but I’m interested in hearing about any better, updated NLP products there are out there. With the latter, I found that helped in my last relationship. That and David Shade’s collected works. She even said how good sex is hard to find.** **I´ve heard about both ones … will look into this Blissnossis thing .. sounds interesting 😉 David Shade is a classic … cool ..** **I´m not that familar with their stuff … as i live in Germany i´m more into the things from Gambler .. and of course Ross Jeffries** **I’d be interested to follow any links about that.** ** ~~~HOW TO ATTRACT WOMEN: WOULD YOU LIKE WOMEN TO ASK YOU OUT~~~ ([~~~HOW TO ATTRACT WOMEN: WOULD YOU LIKE WOMEN TO ASK YOU OUT~~~](http://xtrememind.com/MLFdaBabe.htm))** **here we go 😉** **No. I train miniature ponies to pull a carriage around.** **are you sure ?** **I do not have the slightest idea what kinda business that is 😉** **Sticking points. Group approaches. I think my voice would be better if it was deep, baratone. I know girls do get easily bored, but I think I need work on keeping the attraction going. I think I could be more talkative. I never used to think of myself as funny but had a female friend I took out last week in hysterics. I’ve been cracking people up with my dry wit more often I’ve noticed.** **Group approaches look worse like they are … i found them im fact to be easier than 2 - sets …** **to make women more engage in some talking .. look into Swingcat´s real world seduction … great stuff on prizing and open loops .. but you surely know as you´re doing NLP** **Strengths. I seem to be able to do very smooth number closes, 99% success rate. I’m not needy: not in the slightest. In fact, one night I kissed the prettiest girl in the pub and executed a perfect takeaway much to her dismay. According to one source, only 1 in 10,000 men are good in bed, and I live in an area of 10,000 people** 🙂 **Well .. i do not have any problems in making some Kiss Closes .. but i have some problems in making Number Closes .. haha .. strange world ..** **women dig guy´s who are good in bed… they talk a lot about their lovers …** **I go out sarging in pubs mainly. When I visit the city I do a bit of daygame.** **that´s cool .. bar´s are a better place than clubs … and you can work more with ALL tools … not only body language and pheromones ..** **Yes. Bring on next payday!** **we´re going to figure out something really nice …** **Pago** ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world/51766/6 "2011-08-12T13:57:37Z")
Welcome Cooper. Supber advices from Pagodeiro and the PUA stuff, I think you do many things right, with the PUA stuff you know what works and why with the girls. For more alpha effects, try A314, the stauts, high value booster. Respect from guys and the status attraction from the women. Also incredible effective for the workplace, business trust. You can add TUTH for the sexual extra kick and a icebreaker like IO. A wonderful mood elevator is [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), you and other will love it. If you have more question, tell us. 😉 Best wishes. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DBCooper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c77e96/32.png) [@DBCooper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DBCooper)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 3:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world/51766/7 "2011-08-14T03:04:31Z")
JohnnyHard, I’m 32. What mix would you suggest if I felt like specifically like getting a younger GF, say 18-22? ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 3:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world/51766/8 "2011-08-14T03:52:39Z")
> [@DBCooper](#): > > JohnnyHard, > > I’m 32. What mix would you suggest if I felt like specifically like getting a younger GF, say 18-22? Take IG at the base, it’s charming, mature and mysterious, not serious but exciting. Younger women love this stuff. Then add [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) for the playful and mood elevating effect. Maybe take also IO and you have also the icebreaking/fast opening effects. And for the extra sexual kick (maybe for clubs) add TUTH and you have everything what you need. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Oasis314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/oasis314/32/219_2.png) [@Oasis314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Oasis314)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world/51766/9 "2011-08-14T03:59:53Z")
Hey DBCooper, you will find that what works for others may not be the best for you, understand that it does take a little time and effort on your part to really know the sweet spots and which products are suitable for you. Some people use IG with great success because they naturally complement the product and it’s effects are great. Some people like me for example, prefer A314 because even though my age says that IG would be preferable, my natural character is more congruent with A314 than IG. So all in all, through experience, when you start your journey, you are going to find which products are more suitable for you as an individual. I would recommend going for the toGOs first and knowing the specific doses before you go for 30mls. Hope that helps! ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world/51766/10 "2011-08-14T04:32:16Z")
Younger women = IG. Word! A314 is too intimidating for most younger women. Word! Except for daddy girls who like a provider. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 1:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-world/51766/11 "2011-08-17T01:23:38Z")
Welcome to pherotalk Cooper! That is quite an interesting introduction. Should I be worried that you know how to get past the law and that you are a bad boy. Well , since our relationship is virtual then there won’t be too much harm done. You are definitely out of your shell so products like IG and A314 is gonna do the job in bringing you to the next level. I love the way you write, please open up a journal if you haven’t already. **Your gc was issued! 😉**