# Hello! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [November 17, 2008, 1:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/22961 "2008-11-17T01:34:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MikeM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/41988e/32.png) [@MikeM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeM)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 1:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/22961/1 "2008-11-17T01:34:58Z")
Hey everyone! I’m a 22 year old fella who lives in Seattle and stumbled upon this forum and got curious. I think of myself as a social guy, I enjoy going out to clubs and bars, all around just having a good time when I can with my friends. But I do have a problem approaching girls and maintaining a conversation. If you have questions feel free to ask! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![magnum](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/magnum/32/1423_2.png) [@magnum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magnum)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 1:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/22961/2 "2008-11-17T01:41:31Z")
Hi MikeM, welcome to the forum! please tell us a bit more about your goals with pheromones - if you want girls in bars and clubs to be more open try [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) for more conversations or CTTM where people approch you for conversation. For deeper and more meaningful conversations try Instant Honesty. There are other products for sexual attraction (like Ammo) or for confidence (like Instant Shine) so it helps if you tell us about effects you want to see please read this thread to see which effects are possible: > [@Mens Pheromone Guide revised 6/15](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mens-pheromone-guide-revised-6-15/12168): > > Revised for 2010/11 Common question thread Ok I had to put the guide in this section of the forum because the men’s have way to many stickies now and I didn’t want to add another there. So anyways I got quite a few requests to do a men’s guide and I am flattered but want you to all know upfront that without all the wonderful postings on pheromones by the experienced men I would never been able to write this. Men’s Pheromone guide I have gotten a few requests for a men’s Pheromone guide an… have fun here magnum ---
**Author:** ![remmy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/remmy/32/2451_2.png) [@remmy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/remmy)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 1:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/22961/3 "2008-11-17T01:42:18Z")
hey welcome! im from the seattle area also 🙂 if ur social already, pheros should help u give ua bit more of an edge 🙂 anyways, if ur having problem approaching girls, i think u shoudl try come talk to me. ive heard some great reviews about that one (never tried it myself, but it’s high on my list) as for maintaining a conversation, u shoudl def. try instant openness. i noticed that the quantity of conversation increases with this product. more small talks and the such. anyways, welcome! ---
**Author:** ![MikeM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/41988e/32.png) [@MikeM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeM)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/22961/4 "2008-11-17T01:51:07Z")
Perfect. 🙂 Thanks guys for the replies, I think I’m looking for more of a social interactivity with ladies and a tad bit of attraction on the side. I was looking at getting Instant female magic along with insant openness? Or instant gentlement,I haven’t really decided. ---
**Author:** ![magnum](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/magnum/32/1423_2.png) [@magnum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magnum)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/22961/5 "2008-11-17T02:18:00Z")
I would try Ammo for sexual attraction or Instant Gentlemen for a masculine vibe (its a bit less sexual-more sexy - better for shy girls) Female Magic in my opinion is not the best product for clubs/bars, have a look at [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), it makes people feel good and women more touchy. For conversation as i and remmy said Come Talk to Me would be the best choice for the approach thing - but Openness is good, too - to keep conversations going ---
**Author:** ![MikeM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/41988e/32.png) [@MikeM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeM)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 3:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/22961/6 "2008-11-17T03:12:48Z")
Alrighty, I’ve been looking at the site and I’m still debating what to get. Since I do party and go out to clubs and such some what often I was thinking of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), maybe Turn up the heat? and Instant shine along with Instant openness and Instant Gentlemen. What do you guys think? Overboard for a first order? And I intend using every product once a week to see the thresholds of them. And what situation would you recommend Instant female magic for? ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 4:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/22961/7 "2008-11-17T04:04:19Z")
Hello Mike and welcome. I think you are basically on track with some of the products you just mentioned. I would recommend: Ammo - to let the ladies know you are really interested … IO - to help with those initial conversations Instant Shine - to help keep everyone around you happy Instant Gnetleman is also a favorite product of mine. Try rteading the thread in my signature block that discusses Ammo & [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). TUTH is also a great product but you need to use it carefully. It is not always the best opening gambit. For just general purposes it is better to start with the Ammo then maybe move to the TUTH later. ---
**Author:** ![MikeM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/41988e/32.png) [@MikeM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeM)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 4:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/22961/8 "2008-11-17T04:13:15Z")
Right on,thanks for the help. Its much appreciated. I’m assuming use Turn up the heat when the girl has an attraction towards me? Would Instant female magic be a good investment too or not? Cuz I just read a thread on it and someone said a girl say it smells like piss? ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 4:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/22961/9 "2008-11-17T04:19:39Z")
I would use TUTH when you are pretty sure things are heading in that direction … IFM can be very useful. If you go into Tater’s journal you will see that he has a great deal of luck using pretty stiff doses of IFM and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). I have read others doing pretty well with it too. Now as far as products for men go it does have one of the strongest smells and you definitely need to cover it with some kind of cologne. IFM is also good if you have a SO and she gets into that monthly bad mood … ---
**Author:** ![MikeM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/41988e/32.png) [@MikeM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeM)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 4:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/22961/10 "2008-11-17T04:28:42Z")
So, should I give Instant female magic a shot if I use it with say… Ammo or Instant openness or gentleman? And how would IGt to taters journal? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 4:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/22961/11 "2008-11-17T04:34:06Z")
Tater’s best results have been with a combo of IFM and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) if I remember. But IFM and IO would probably work too. Go to the Mens section, find the Mens Journals, go through the pages until you find the Mad Tater Journal. Be ready for a great ride … ---
**Author:** ![MikeM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/41988e/32.png) [@MikeM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeM)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 8:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/22961/12 "2008-11-17T08:04:27Z")
Thanks a lot for the help guys. I think with my first order I’m going to get Instant female magic, Ammo, Instant openness and Instant shine. How should I go about with them? One per week to know how they work and then start mixing? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 11:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/22961/13 "2008-11-17T11:50:58Z")
Hello Mike, Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 This is the link to Taters journal [The "MAD TATER" Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330) Get yourself a cup of coffee or a beer and some snacks its a long long ride through this one. Also keep in mind alot of what Tater does wont work for the average [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) newbie especially when it comes to compositing. He tends to get interesting but unusual results. So give yourself some time to get experience with the products before you jump in to some of the great more complex experiments he has tried. I think you made good choices for products. You dont have to go a whole week with one but at least a few days till you get a good handle on it. Some you will see right out of the gate while others take a little more time using them in different environments and around different people. If you need help of have questions just ask. **Your GC is on its way** 😃 Tisha