# Hello **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [December 9, 2008, 1:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/23794 "2008-12-09T13:03:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Poetic\_Sole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Poetic\_Sole](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Poetic_Sole)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 1:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/23794/1 "2008-12-09T13:03:58Z")
Hi there, My name is Matthew and I have moved to NYC. I came to this site after searching and researching online for some time. I have tried the lesser (apparently scam) product pherlure and wanted to gain some insight and information on how pheromones actually work. I am 22 years old almost 23, and unfortunately although having many friends who are girls and going on dates have been quite unlucky or perhaps just unskilled in getting to the next level in relationships and interactions with women my age. I say this as I am always the guy girls spill their hearts out too but never the one they kiss. I don’t expect pheromones to be the magic pill but I am hoping it can help them see me in a different light or from a different perspective. Being a student and living in new york 25 dollars to experiment with this would be much appreciated. A question I would have is that Ammo is never mentioned on the store site to be mixed with Instant female magic and I was wondering what the efffect would be of the 2. I am thinking of mixing Ammo, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and TUTH, together with 1 or 2 sprays from each and wonder if this would be recommended for me. Also, is ethnicity a factor as I am not caucasian? Thanks so much for your help! ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 1:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/23794/2 "2008-12-09T13:15:09Z")
Hi Matthew, welcome on board. To give you good recommendations, check this link [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934) then come back and post a little more about yourself ( you’re nearly there!) ammo and IFM is just about my favourite combo ( OMG can they work well together) but I wouldn’t wear TUTH combined with them, it’s likely to make your -none signature too powerful and scare the girls off! You’re quite right that ethnicity can make a difference, let us know your background and there are plenty of us to help, don’t be afraid to ask questions but use of the search button is always good, most questions have already been answered. Enjoy the ride. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 1:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/23794/3 "2008-12-09T13:18:37Z")
Hey there Matthew and welcome to the forums! I’ve met quite few people in the forums who have also tried pherlure, with mixed results. From my understanding it seems to be an honest, but somewhat weak, product. But from my own experience, i can tell you the ones here can be plenty strong. 😛 I’m glad you understand that [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) wont fix all your problems, but they CAN do what you want… which is help get your foot in the door. Send out that vibe that says “i’d like to be more than your friend.” First off, it would help if you could give us some more information about you. What kind of personality do you have? Shy or outgoing? Where would you plan on using the pheromones? Work, school, club/pub, home? And what kind of people were you hoping to affect? Friends, family, girls, yourself? This kinda information would be very helpful for us and would get you that GC you had seen mentioned. $25 is always helpful, no matter who you are. 😃 And yes, ethnicity CAN be a factor in pheromones, so lets hear your background, as well as if you fancy a particular type of girl. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 1:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/23794/4 "2008-12-09T13:34:20Z")
Hello Matthew and welcome to the forum. Yes - a lot of people here have tried Pherlure and most do seem to want their money back. I hope it did something for you. If not Tisha know the process for asking for a refund. Those are three great products but as it has been said I would not wear the TUTH with the other three - especailly as an opening gambit. If you do OK getting dates what I would recommend is replacing the TUTH with IH. IH helps create feelings of connection and in turn deeper conversation. I think this route would probably work a lot better in the romance department esp. with [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and IFM. Ethnicity can play a fine tuning kind of role in all of this sometimes. Again if we know your ethnicity we may be able to help. Hope to hear back from you soon. ---
**Author:** ![Poetic\_Sole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Poetic\_Sole](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Poetic_Sole)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/23794/5 "2008-12-09T20:53:32Z")
Hey thanks for the quick replies. I am asian but born and raised in north america, and the problem really isn’t the connection, I get into deep heart to heart conversations all the time, surprisingly quite easily with people (and usually girls) that I just met or am getting to know. It’s just I end up becoming the friend or putting off that vibe. Even when people first meet me they think I’m ‘cute’ or the ‘nice guy’. And I don’t try to be. I was thinking about getting [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) as well but it seems its quite off-putting. I would be using the product in a small school environment mostly during the day. And there is one girl in particular I am interested on seeing the effects on. She is a few years older than me (mid-late twenties) and caucasian. We have been on a few ‘dates’ I put them in quotations as she refuses to call them anything more than two friends. But we are the last 2 people drinking at the bar and I pay. The thing is I don’t get so much as a kiss or hug goodnight. I know she feels attracted to me, but for whatever reason (past issues) she seems to afraid or to tighten up when we get too physically close for too long. It’s not that she doesn’t like me, we flirt play around, I hold her its just after awhile she will physically and emotionally shutdown and not want to take it any further than friends with a lot of chemistry. So I wanted something to ‘turn up the heat’ no pun intended and see what happens. Also, if I had spent time away from her for a few weeks would that make a difference? As you can see I am a major newbie and wondering if there is a list of definitions as I do not know what a -none signiture is I’m guessing pheromone signiture. Additionally, do I reply to just me and you guys are alerted or do I have to do this one by one? And finally, as I am a student on a budget, what do I do to get the 25 newbie gift certificate, I’ve done everything it said and some more. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Poetic\_Sole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Poetic\_Sole](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Poetic_Sole)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/23794/6 "2008-12-09T20:54:17Z")
Hey I replied on my thread but not sure if it alerts everyone individually. ---
**Author:** ![Poetic\_Sole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Poetic\_Sole](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Poetic_Sole)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/23794/7 "2008-12-09T20:55:33Z")
Hi I replied to you on my thread but not sure if the forum alerts everyone individually of this. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Poetic\_Sole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Poetic\_Sole](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Poetic_Sole)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/23794/8 "2008-12-09T20:58:08Z")
Hey, I replied to you on my thread but am not sure if it will alert you individually. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/23794/9 "2008-12-09T21:20:55Z")
I would just be very careful with TUTH. It sends a very raw message according to the ladies here on the forum. Not necessarily great for in class - you come across the the horn dog always staring kinda thing - but it can help when things are heading in the right direction already. Ammo is really the product of choice for day to day wear both for general social use and romance. It sends more of an “I am interested message” which is much more appropriate for a classroom setting. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/23794/10 "2008-12-09T23:12:56Z")
Yeah, i have to agree with the boss here. You may want to stay away from Turn Up The Heat for your first purchse, until you get the hang of how to dose each pheromone to your “sweet spot.” Turn Up the Heat can be very easy to overdose and scare the girls away, which is exactly what you DONT want. Both Ammo and TUTH are -none based products, so both give off a sexual vibe, but Ammo is buffered with 2 social pheromones so it is alot easier to use. Oh, and -none is short for Androstenone, a male pheromone that projects sexual attention and sometimes a bit of intimidation. [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) would be great for you and as Diamond said, it can work really well together with Ammo. But i would probably change your last one to either Instant Gentleman or Instant Shine. Instant Shine gives off a “healthy glow” to others and a bit of a confidence boost as a self-effect. Instant Gentleman gives off a cool, mature vibe… kind of warm and relaxing to a girl, that of a male provider. ---
**Author:** ![Romulus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Romulus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Romulus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 12:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/23794/11 "2008-12-10T00:22:41Z")
Hello Matthew it is nice to meet you. You gave a good a good introduction of yourself. What city are you moving from? I have looked into the right combo myself. In some circumstances I have used both with no problems - So I guess it can be used together with no real problems. The only issues is that Instant female magic can make men react negatively - such as depression and or want to stay away. I know how frustrated it must be to not be able to finally get physical with one of these girls, but eventually it should happen. Have you given any indications/hints to the girls that you are interested in them. Do you take them out, and spend time alone? I am looking forward to seeing if by using any of the products here something positively unusual happens to you. goold luck. > [@Poetic\_Sole](#): > > Hi there, > > My name is Matthew and I have moved to NYC. I came to this site after searching and researching online for some time. I have tried the lesser (apparently scam) product pherlure and wanted to gain some insight and information on how pheromones actually work. > > I am 22 years old almost 23, and unfortunately although having many friends who are girls and going on dates have been quite unlucky or perhaps just unskilled in getting to the next level in relationships and interactions with women my age. I say this as I am always the guy girls spill their hearts out too but never the one they kiss. I don’t expect pheromones to be the magic pill but I am hoping it can help them see me in a different light or from a different perspective. Being a student and living in new york 25 dollars to experiment with this would be much appreciated. > > A question I would have is that Ammo is never mentioned on the store site to be mixed with Instant female magic and I was wondering what the efffect would be of the 2. I am thinking of mixing Ammo, Instant Female Magic and TUTH, together with 1 or 2 sprays from each and wonder if this would be recommended for me. Also, is ethnicity a factor as I am not caucasian? Thanks so much for your help! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 1:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/23794/12 "2008-12-10T01:26:05Z")
Hi Matt Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 Three good products but I am going to suggest something other then TUTH. TUTH comes on strong and is for turning up the heat after you get past the friends box and into a more intimate relationship or in a sexually charged atmosphere. Plus ammo has the same amount of anone in it as TUTH but has two added buffers so its not as harsh as TUTH while still being arousing. Get AMMO for a sexy confident interesting attractive vibe. As I said this is mildly arousing as well. Get IH to form a deeper connection and feeling of closeness. Girls need that to act on arousal. IFM for increased affection and to get past last minute resistance. Layer the products, you do not mix them in the same bottle. You need to work with one at a time to find the correct dosage for you. You can get the OD effect from to much anone so start slow with AMMO. A very very small percentage of men get a down feeling from IFM. Its something to be aware of but not concerned about. If you are concerned use it to the back of your neck so you dont inhale as much. If you have questions just ask. **Your GC will go out in a few minutes** 😃 Have fun Tisha