# Hello

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/34565>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [December 3, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/34565 "2009-12-03T03:10:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Divineone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5e925/32.png) [@Divineone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Divineone)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/34565/1 "2009-12-03T03:10:57Z")

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Hi, my name is Jason and I’m 21 years old, I’m a fairly laid back guy who likes to joke around and have a good time. I don’t have the biggest female experience I’ve had one real girlfriend so far and many women who I’ve hung out with and hooked up with before.

I’m here reading the forums trying to decide if this product will help me with my current situation. I have recently reconnected with a female friend of mine form college. When I first met her she had a boyfriend, we got along great but at the end of the semester in which we shared a class we lost contact because it was clear she was really into this guy. Its been about a year and she ended up in 3 of my classes this semester(Its like god is trying to mess with me). We’ve been hanging out a lot all semester long, but I’ve never really hung out with her off campus other then a couple times. I have tried asking her out once early in the semester and she gave me the “I don’t wanna lose you as friend msg” via facebook. The following night I hung out with her after class and she asked me “what my intentions were” I was not expecting her to be so forward so I panicked and never really answered her. Since then I never tried again, and I’ve honestly tried to do the friend thing, but I can’t get her out of my head. I’ve never had this problem with my past relationship, when ever my mind lingers it ends up on her. I feel like I have to ask her out, but I don’t know if I’m still in the friends zone or not, she gives me mixed signals. Do you think using one of these [pheromones](https://a314.com/) to give me a edge would put me over the top or do you think by not acting back when she asked me what my intentions were ruined my chances? I plan on asking her out again and I’m going to use some of my friends pheromones that he bought.

I kinda feel like I’m in limbo, not really sure how she see’s me and I’d really like to find out once in for all so I can move on with or without her.

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**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/34565/2 "2009-12-03T03:19:46Z")

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Pheromones can make her attracted to you to some degree but they won’t in any way influence how she’s made up her mind up with you already if she’s absolutely keen on that mindset. Looks like she was bringing out the spanish inquisition when she tried to get it out of you but I don’t think that means that she was responsive to your persistence. Mones are great but they aren’t magic I’ve had a hard time explaining that to people whom i’ve mentioned it to. I admire your resilience in the situation but if she really in a outward/ or subtle way shows that she isnt interested theres nothing else you can really do. Key is she has to like you already. Theres lots of great women in the world in which to use mones to help create rapport with them just remember that.

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**Author:** ![reddog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reddog/32/2091_2.png) [@reddog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/reddog)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 3:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/34565/3 "2009-12-03T03:35:41Z")

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Tough, been there a long time ago and I feel for you. Hard to get past the just friend mode … not impossible, but nearly so.

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**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/34565/4 "2009-12-03T04:09:15Z")

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Hey welcome

To me it sounds like you might have a shot? Does your buddy have [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)? I know if you would have that on a few times around her and started to push her a bit you would find out what she thinks for sure?

If things don’t work out with her you still would have some phero’s to play with. When they get Ammo back in the store I would say to try that one out for sure and one of my fav’s is CTTM Mix2 it’s about 50/50 Openness and Honesty. With those two you got Attraction and chatty phero’s.

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**Author:** ![Divineone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5e925/32.png) [@Divineone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Divineone)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 4:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/34565/5 "2009-12-03T04:25:06Z")

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My buddy has Ammo, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Alpha A314, Instant Gentlemen, and a to go of Instant Honesty. So you think I should definitely go with Ammo?

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**Author:** ![Cherub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cherub/32/1282_2.png) [@Cherub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cherub)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 6:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/34565/6 "2009-12-03T06:02:01Z")

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SOoooooooooooooooo many choices…I havent had much experience with this stuff but I like it and you should try it out not sure if ammo is in stock i wanted some and was sold out last week when i tried to order…and will be picking up some soon…I went for the A314,IH,IG,TUTH for my first order…have only tested with the A314 so far but they all smell sooooooooooooooooooooooo goooooooooood!..hope this helps…good luck and keep us posted

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**Author:** ![Casanova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova/32/621_2.png) [@Casanova](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Casanova)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 7:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/34565/7 "2009-12-03T07:41:58Z")

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Well ammo is androstenone product and it will be usefull as to bring some sexual spark.You can use a314 as well as to give more alpha vibe witch may be usefull as to be percieved as more important by this girls.But bear in mind that even using pheromones in that situation when the girl has a boyfriend your chances are small to none at all.So my advice - try to bring the sexual spark and the alpha vibe with ammo and a314.I never tested the normal a314 but have some experience with the more concentrated mutant batch ( witch was too much concentrated for me).I can say it gives you some VIP like aura, but you have to act on it.I suppose you should try to look more mature, more high rank male and you should use some psychology - such as building a rapport, emotional connection making her miss your presence ext.And even then your chances are small to none at all.You see it is too difficult to get a girl witch has a bf and loves him.You can try for the sake of the 5% chances you have , but do not expect much.But if u’re so desperate - try it.Your problem is called The kiss of death - u’re obsessed with that one girl and it makes you suffer while not being able neighter to have her, neighter to forget her and find someone else.Though situation.Wish you luck, because that is what u really need in such complex situation.

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/34565/8 "2009-12-03T18:58:00Z")

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Welcome to Pherotalk DivineOne!

All is not lost. She is asking you what you’re intentions are and sending msgs that she does not want to loose you as a friend indicates she has interest. She is trying to figure out what to do and weighing the pros and cons.

It is up to you now to show her that she is not gonna loose out but gain if you guys move the friendship up to a higher level.

You might want to answer that question first the next time you see her and let her know that you’re intentions are to make her happy and you see you two taking things one step further.

Instant honesty is for intimate moments like these , she is going to feel even more comfortable with you and it is imp for us ladies to trust a guy if anything is going to happen.

Ammunition is going to let her know you are sexually interested without giving the wrong impression.

When you talk with her and you feel like the moment between you two is getting intense you might want to spray on some TUTH but don’t over do it and be careful with this product.

You should continue to be friends with her but don’t make yourself too available so she will feel she can loose you and act accordingly. The men on this forum will give you some great advice on how to win this girl over.

Keep us updated.

Your GC will be issued soon!

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**Author:** ![Casanova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova/32/621_2.png) [@Casanova](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Casanova)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/34565/9 "2009-12-03T21:02:26Z")

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Well I do not say that is impossible to get the girl, but it is hard and one should not expect only the pheros to make all the work, but one should use the pheros as an enchancer of one’s personallity and then with interaction with the girl try to make her see the benefits of a future relationship.

So that’s why my advice is a314 and some socially buffered androstenone as ammo.The first product is as to raise your status , as to look more laid back and experienced and that way to have an edge and the more sexual ammo is to have those little sexual sparks between the two of you.

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**Author:** ![Maq321](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/maq321/32/450_2.png) [@Maq321](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maq321)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/34565/10 "2009-12-03T23:26:16Z")

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I should add that I am his buddy and he is aware pheros won’t just change everything over night. The lady he’s interested in is currently single and broke up with her ex this past August. He has been a good friend but realized he doesn’t want to stay there. He has read the ladder theory and read up on kino. Now he has joined here looking for advice and to try out the pheros to help inhance himself and his relationships. He’s a cool dude and I thinks he has more than I shot but a chance to make this girl happy.

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> Well I do not say that is impossible to get the girl, but it is hard and one should not expect only the pheros to make all the work, but one should use the pheros as an enchancer of one’s personallity and then with interaction with the girl try to make her see the benefits of a future relationship.
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> So that’s why my advice is a314 and some socially buffered androstenone as ammo.The first product is as to raise your status , as to look more laid back and experienced and that way to have an edge and the more sexual ammo is to have those little sexual sparks between the two of you.

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**Author:** ![Casanova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova/32/621_2.png) [@Casanova](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Casanova)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 6:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/34565/11 "2009-12-04T06:49:40Z")

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Well then if the girl is free and not deeply in love with some bf as most of us here tought - then thing are even easier.He should use the pheros and be close to the girl - going on dates, movies, have fun - just use the mones as an enchancer and try to pick the girl up.As I understand they are friends now - so maybe he should try more androstenone around her - maybe even tuth as more raw sexuallity ( since it’s not buffered) while making kino, flirting with her, just being flirty.That way if the girl has interest - she will respond and things can happen faster.Afcourse little a314 is alway good as to give the high rank male vibe - witch is important with girls - most of the PUA systems are based on having higher rank than the girl.Afcourse one should act accordingly to the pherosignature he uses as not to give mixed signals.So wish your buddy luck and since the situattion is not that tight - well then he really has a chance but should work hard.

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**Author:** ![Divineone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5e925/32.png) [@Divineone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Divineone)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/34565/12 "2009-12-04T17:37:55Z")

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The thing is, and I know this is not a advise site it is a [pheromone](https://a314.com/) site, I panic everytime I hang out with her when I feel like I should just ask her out, and see what she actually sees me as. Not the entire time, just when I feel like theirs a opening, I’m also not sure if I should stop making jokes, all we do when we chill is laugh, maybe I need to be a little more serious around her. I’m not sure I could do the just friends with her because I’m just to into her, so it almost feels like if I wanted to be honest with myself I’m putting it off because if it doesn’t go my way I lose someone I really enjoy spending time with. I came here in search of a edge that I could possibly use possibly to shed some light on this issue(If I notice a change in behavior when I use one, then I know she just needed a push, if I don’t I would gather she is not interested). I plan to attempt this again on Tuesday possibly since as usual I nerved out of it yesterday.

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**Author:** ![Casanova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova/32/621_2.png) [@Casanova](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Casanova)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2009, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/34565/13 "2009-12-04T19:11:58Z")

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Well pheros will definatelly give you an edge, not only with that girl but even with other girls or with people in general.The ting is that we here can give you all the advices on pheromones but when it comes to your story with that girl - you know better how things go between you and her and I hope you get the girl you want.If you need someone to explain you how to use pheromones as to be percieved as more attractive - we all the guys and girls here on the forum will try to help you.So try to get her and wish you luck, because I’ve been in similar situations myself and I know how it feels. 😉
