# Hello **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [June 29, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/39692 "2010-06-29T14:51:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Akura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@Akura](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Akura)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/39692/1 "2010-06-29T14:51:54Z")
I am a 23 year old male from the United States but I recently moved to Taipei so that I can study Chinese. I am kind of outgoing but I get a little nervous when walking directly towards women I don’t know and introducing myself because I never really know what to say. The nice guy route seems too cliche. I am hoping that [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) will make the women come talk to me so that I won’t be stuck in that awkward position if I run out of things to say. I first got introduced to pheromones when a friend of mine went to a passion party where women test out sex related products and she told me about how they all rubbed pheromones on their wrist. The women all got really turned on and so I went to a sex shop with my friend and bought a cheap bottle of Lure for Him. I don’t think it really works so I looked online for a better working pheromone and I found this site. I am Taiwanese so I am wondering if it would work the same for all body types and which products work best for going clubbing? ---
**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 2:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/39692/2 "2010-06-29T14:59:08Z")
Hello Akura. Tell us more about yourself and your goals that you hope to achieve through pheromones. Also dont forget to do the free gift certificate. ---
**Author:** ![falcos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/falcos/32/1189_2.png) [@falcos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/falcos)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/39692/3 "2010-06-29T15:00:33Z")
Hi there akura, welcome to the forum first your questions: Not every types of races react the same for the mones. And the best type of mones for clubbing all denpends of you, what you can handle and if you are congruent with it. So after what I read from your intro, my suggestion for you is: 1. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) to go out, for me there isnt any other greater product. I just cant get enough of it. 2. For the girls coming talk to you, IO is the only solution. But I must warn you, you have completly the wrong Idea, you should never expect woman to come talk to you, what you can expect is for them to be more opne to your approaches. 3. Try a314 and IG, I have read some were that rone based mones have great effect on asian woman, more than none based. 4. Lastly when I read that you run out of things to say to a girl, it came to my head that you need dating couching classes, buy some PUA books and instruct yourself in it. So if you have any more questions just ask Best of luck for you Falcos ---
**Author:** ![Akura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@Akura](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Akura)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/39692/4 "2010-06-29T15:39:02Z")
Falcos thanks for the reply it was very informative. I hope to meet many attractive women and get them into bed. I don’t expect pheromones to be some magical potion but I hope that it increases my own confidence a little or brings those around me to my level where we can connect. ---
**Author:** ![Katalyst](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/katalyst/32/1415_2.png) [@Katalyst](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Katalyst)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 3:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/39692/5 "2010-06-29T15:47:53Z")
Hey Akura welcome to the forums ! Falcos got you off onto the right foot thats for sure. Id just like to say that the nice guy route is what females typically look for. HOWEVER, Not compliments that are over the top and not believable, and definitely not pickup lines. Try to be yourself, and introduce yourself. Maybe have a question that you are contemplating with your friends and ask her opinion on the matter. I suggest you also look into maybe pick up artist books since you are seeking one night stands as the basis for your results. They will show you techniques and methods and how to not be cocky but rather confident, mysterious, and you will learn to exercise them as you become more attuned to them. Unfortunately most females will not be the ones to approach you. It is not in our customs for it to normally be that way. Rather it is usually guys place to be confident and open with the girl. This is one of the biggest issues behind our confidence is the fear of rejection and that is what makes it hard to approach girls and especially when there have been rejection in the past or in the same night. I used to watch my friend who didnt give a damn and if he was rejected he just moved on and hit on the next girl he saw. As obnoxious as this looked, i realized one thing, he usually ended up with a good looking girl by the end of the night. The point is, that you will fail every attempt that you dont take. Therefore try to not go out with the goal of i have to score a one night stand tonight, but rather that im going to go out and have a good time tonight and make lots of new friends and open lots of conversations with people. Then it is much more likely it will lead to the rest. You need to be attuned to the IOI’s that females display in order to act on their interest. Their body positioning towards you, playing with their hair, etc all mean signs of interest and flirtation, and are basically inviting you to talk to them. I would also recommend ammo for the confidence boost and general attractant, and to help you open up more and have conversations flow freely, and help others feel more open and approach you: IO. Ammo is the best overall product that is easy to use and has none in it to help show that you also want action later on ! Just make sure you find the right dosage, in club settings it usually needs to be a little bit higher in sprays because of the amount of people around you. ! Hope this helps a bit ! Just as a reminder to our new users: Please hit the thanks button to the users you feel helped you out a great deal in answering your needs! and dont forget to also give credit to the user who best answered your thread! that way we know we helped and can also provide our expertise to those that still have lingering questions ! ---
**Author:** ![falcos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/falcos/32/1189_2.png) [@falcos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/falcos)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/39692/6 "2010-06-29T17:32:23Z")
Sorry to break your party katalyst but if your objective is to get laid there is no one PUA specialist in this forum that will tell you that the correct path is the nice guy. Being the nice guy is the quickest path for self-destruction actually. I really know this from experience. The best path is being the alpha male. If you can pull it off, then you will defently score. The nice guy, is just the path for disapointment. If you follow this path unless you are unbelivable pretty, you have an outstanding charm, and your unmistakbly charismatic, and even like this, your probably you will get some disapointment somewere in your life following the “nice guy” path. I dont mean you have to be a bad ass, but sometimes being the jerk is what pays. But never, and I mean NEVER be the nice guy. ---
**Author:** ![Katalyst](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/katalyst/32/1415_2.png) [@Katalyst](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Katalyst)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/39692/7 "2010-06-29T18:14:12Z")
I agree with you to an extent. I think i was alluding to more along the lines of not just one night stands as i got off on a tangent. Many women find overly cocky to be a turn off in many ways. Others find it a challenge and feed off of a superior Alpha male that could give two shits about you. I guess it all depends on the individual. But as far as one night stands go, yes i believe you are right and the confident, one who owns the night, and knows it, will shit all over some guy sucking up to her all night and who keeps asking her if shes okay. I just more or less meant that in an initial approach you shouldnt go up a chick and be a completely cocky asshole and insult her, but rather be more witty, confident, and introduce yourself or along the other lines of pick up artist stuff. I myself have never read anything based on PUA. Thats why i couldnt go into things further on that subject but to describe that these types of literatures could help him learn the proper techniques and proven methods that work and help to instill confidence in oneself and reduce the occurrence of rejections on initial approaches especially. Im typically more geared as a nice guy and have gone out being a jerk and garnered a lot more hits. This was all my personal experiment before i even came to this site. With that said i agree with you, but i was also not always searching for one night stands and therefore if you attract self centered, untrustworthy women then i obviously would not want to date that. I apologize as i kind of steered away from just ‘‘one night stands’’ and found myself off on a different tangent, however similarly related, was not what i depicted. \*\*by nice i was trying to portray still respectful ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 9:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/39692/8 "2010-06-30T21:21:41Z")
Welcome to Pherotalk Akura! In your introduction you said the nice guy routine never works. Are you saying that to say you use to get women into bed or are you really a nice guy who can’t seem to get anywhere with women ? I see the guys had a bit of a misunderstanding there where you are concerned and I am hoping you can clear it up. They both have very good points and recommendations and you can learn from both their advice and recommendation. You know best what you want and what your intentions are. Your gc will be issued soon! ---
**Author:** ![Akura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@Akura](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Akura)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 4:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/39692/9 "2010-07-01T04:02:38Z")
I said that because I know the nice guy route doesn’t work. I actually don’t have a very hard time getting to know women but i would like to get to know more women. I’m not having one night stands left and right but i would like it to be a more frequent thing.