# Hello ... **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [June 19, 2007, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/4215 "2007-06-19T15:08:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![WiZ83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d07c76/32.png) [@WiZ83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WiZ83)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/4215/1 "2007-06-19T15:08:28Z")
I’m 24 years old, male, Asian (pure Chinese blood in me) and currently working in Rochester, MN, USA. Here’s my story. This is how I found out about this website. First, I read stuffs on Pherlure, and actually ordered 3 bottles (2x$40 + 1 free + $10 shipping = $90) 3 weeks ago. My intention was to pick up on one of my fellow co-worker, who was pretty hot, and cute. Anyway, I used it for 2 weeks straight, and didn’t notice much difference. I didn’t get any extra attention as what I’ve anticipated, and I’m kind of disappointed. So I thought maybe I’ve used Pherlure the wrong way, so I decided to google “Pherlure Tips” and this site came up as one of the top links. Now, the reason I’m joining this community, which I plan to stay if things work out, is I want to know if Pherlure is really a scam. I’ve done some google’ing, and researching, and found out that lots of forums/community claim that Pherlure is a total scam, and the ingredient in it does not exist at all. What I’m planning to do is, I really want to try out something that works, and I need comments/suggestion, if I should return Pherlure for a refund, or try it for a longer period. What suggestions you guys have? Like I mentioned before, I’m an Asian (Chinese), I would say I’m not a very handsome dude, but I’m average looking, not a very tall dude, 5’ 7". Looking forward to use the $15 coupon, and get a good product that would work out. ---
**Author:** ![ash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@ash](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ash)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/4215/2 "2007-06-19T18:14:00Z")
> [@WiZ83](#): > > Like I mentioned before, I’m an Asian (Chinese), I would say I’m not a very handsome dude, but I’m average looking, not a very tall dude, 5’ 7". > > Looking forward to use the $15 coupon, and get a good product that would work out. Welcome to the forums! I would suggest, in your circumstances, IH, IO, and instant shine. Asians sometimes have trouble with the non-social pheros when chasing other Asians and Asians respond well to the social pheros. Who is your primary target? What age are you and them? ---
**Author:** ![WiZ83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d07c76/32.png) [@WiZ83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WiZ83)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/4215/3 "2007-06-19T18:49:43Z")
I’m 24, Asian. The girl I’m after is a 1/2 Asian 1/2 Caucasian mix. I seriously don’t know her age, but I’m guessing around my age, or at max 28. Besides I go to the bar quite often, almost every weekends with my male co-workers, watch sports, and drink, and talk random stuffs, could probably use some stuffs to help socialize with some ladies over there. And my work involves traveling a lot, where I make flight trips to Asia and Europe, usually travel once 6-8 weeks, mostly to Shanghai, Guangzhou, Taipei, Hong Kong, Kuala Lumpur, and Singapore. So maybe I could use some of those stuffs to meet up some ladies during the long flights? ---
**Author:** ![WiZ83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d07c76/32.png) [@WiZ83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WiZ83)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/4215/4 "2007-06-19T18:51:31Z")
Oh yeah, I’ve forgotten to mention something. I’m kind of a person who can really talk well, but I tempt to get a bit shy when communicating with ladies that I haven’t talked to before. So any tips on getting myself going would be great. ---
**Author:** ![ash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@ash](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ash)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 7:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/4215/5 "2007-06-19T19:05:54Z")
Again, I would suggest IO, IH, and instant shine. After you have some experience with those, there are certainly some putatives you would be interested in as well. IO will help you and others to open up more. IH will help there to be a deep connection felt and for more honesty in conversation. [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) will just help everyone near you to feel great. ---
**Author:** ![WiZ83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d07c76/32.png) [@WiZ83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WiZ83)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/4215/6 "2007-06-19T19:08:10Z")
Okay, thanks for the suggestion. But like I mentioned before, I’m kind of new to [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/), so would you sort of explain what each does? Anyway, do you recommend using one of them? Or using them as a combination? Coz they don’t come cheap, and they could cost quite a lot, for something that I haven’t used before. ---
**Author:** ![ash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@ash](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ash)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/4215/7 "2007-06-19T19:14:41Z")
Well, you can order them in a TOGO size which is cheaper and will give you an idea what it does for less. You might want to try all three of those, but if you could only get two, I would perhaps skip the IH for starters. It can be difficult to explain how it works directly, it might be better for you to look around in the forum and see what sorts of reactions people have had. ---
**Author:** ![WiZ83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d07c76/32.png) [@WiZ83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WiZ83)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/4215/8 "2007-06-19T19:16:53Z")
I checked the website, the TO-GO’s are 5ml, but they don’t state how much does the regular size comes in. Besides, how many sprays does 5ml last? ---
**Author:** ![ash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@ash](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ash)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 7:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/4215/9 "2007-06-19T19:19:23Z")
A regular size is 200 sprays and a TOGO size is 40 sprays. Honestly, once you’ve bought the TOGO, you’ll be running low and dying for the larger size to arrive. It’ll feel like it takes ages while you wait, without anything to wear in the mean time and you’ll wonder why you didn’t just buy the larger size to start with. But, I know, you want to know it works first… ---
**Author:** ![WiZ83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d07c76/32.png) [@WiZ83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WiZ83)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 7:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/4215/10 "2007-06-19T19:24:02Z")
Yeah, and there are many things I’m looking into as well. I read people talking about A314, and Ammunition, and others. I don’t even know which one to go with. I don’t want to be wasting too much money on something that doesn’t work, coz I’ve got lots of stuffs to worry about, my credit card bills, my car loan, house lease, etc. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![ash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@ash](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ash)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/4215/11 "2007-06-19T19:26:39Z")
[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) has -none and so does TUTH, both of those tend to stink to many Asian women. A314 is great stuff, it makes you seem more important to those around you. As far as I know, it has no -none, so it’s fine for Asians. It is also available as a spray trial pack called MX172 and MX173, if you wanted to try it for less than the full bottle price. Though the oil form, A314 is a better deal in the long run. ---
**Author:** ![WiZ83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d07c76/32.png) [@WiZ83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WiZ83)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 7:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/4215/12 "2007-06-19T19:29:33Z")
I still dont’ know what’s -none, etc. Anyway, oil based A314 has proven to be really good to lots of people. How does the application work? Would I be needing combinations? Or I can just rub them on and spray my usual cologne ? ---
**Author:** ![ash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@ash](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ash)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/4215/13 "2007-06-19T19:32:45Z")
> [@WiZ83](#): > > I still dont’ know what’s -none, etc. > > Anyway, oil based A314 has proven to be really good to lots of people. How does the application work? Would I be needing combinations? Or I can just rub them on and spray my usual cologne ? Oil based A314 is wonderful. You just put a drop on your wrist and rub them together. If you want stronger, instead rub your wrist on your pulse point on the side of your neck and repeat with other wrist and other pulse point. It is scented pleasantly so cologne is not required, but you could wear it if you wanted to. Generally, the different products have different results, so the instant line is combinable as well. You could wear A314 with IH and IO and instant shine. Many do with great success. ---
**Author:** ![WiZ83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d07c76/32.png) [@WiZ83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WiZ83)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2007, 7:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/4215/14 "2007-06-19T19:36:46Z")
So how do these products compare to Chikara and NPA combo, which other forums recommended? Is there any similar product that’s selling at [SmartMones.com](http://SmartMones.com)? Coz on the other forums, I read lots of people have really good positive experience using SoE + NPA + Chikara … and there’s a combo going for $60+shipping. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 6:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/4215/15 "2007-06-20T06:34:12Z")
Ahh! Hi Wiz! 🙂 I think for your girl, you should totally check out A314, too. Girls fall hard for guys with status, and A314 is all about silent status. Forum search the “A314 Stalker Effect” and you’ll see what I mean 😃 And man, to get over approach anxiety, just approach! There’s a program out there I really like from Archer Sloan, called Demonic Confidence. He just says to say hi to 100 people a day. That should get you into the groove pretty good. Smile and make eye contact, too, even if you don’t intend on pproching them. Strangers usually smile right on back, which is a great thing to get yourself used to seeing! Soon enough, you’ll be so used to smiling at strangers it will happen unconsciously, and since they smile back you train your brain that strangers are friendly. This makes _everyone_ easy to approach. Coupled with pheros, it’s all over! People are sooo receptive to you when you’re wearing pheros. It’s all about subconscious communication, and what you’re communicating [while saying nothing] is, “I’m an awesome dude! Stay riveted to my words!” Approach + Pheros = Easy breezy. Once you start getting really social, being friendly with everyone around you, you’ll build up an entourage! Your target girl will tap into the popularity vibe. You’ll have the social proof of being an awesome dude, the pheros to amplify it, and the personality to let it flow! Anywhoo… I was a little long winded there. 😃 Have fun with your new pheros! Your gift cert is waiting for ya in your inbox. ---
**Author:** ![WiZ83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d07c76/32.png) [@WiZ83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WiZ83)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 9:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/4215/16 "2007-06-20T09:40:49Z")
Thanks for the reply Jasmin. I’ll give A314 a try. I just don’t know if I have the guts to go around meeting strangers randomly. Anyway, what’s a good tips if I plan to go to the bar alone, coz most people I know are already married, as I’m one of the younger people working around the office, an we only have lunch together with most of my male colleagues, which mostly has kids to go home to, where I’m single, I could go to the bar alone, but I haven’t done so for a long long time. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2007, 11:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/4215/17 "2007-07-09T23:24:11Z")
Check posts by gegogi. He is of “asian decent” and is quite familiar with both the “other site’s” products and those from Androtics. What some here are dirving at is that you may benefit most from the “social” pheromones over the “sexual” pheromones. Instant Openness promotes conversation, Instant Shine may promote friendly positive overall feelings. Some report the “self effects” (how the products affect you) outweigh the effects the products have on others and can give the wearer a nice “boost.” Pherlure seems to work for some, not at all for others. But that can be true for many products. It’s felt that Pherlure in general is a rather “weak” and variable product, but your results may vary. And it still often comes down to you personally, as even the “best” [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) won’t work magic. It can only boost what is already there. Note: the To Go sizes also deliver slightly smaller sprays than the regular bottles, so you essentially need 4 sprays of a TG to equal a 3 spray dose from a “regular” sized bottle (of commercial “finished” products. The Experimones and Putatives are a different story, but they are products for more experienced users). You may not _need_ a full “dose” however. But it’s safe to assume you will get about 10 applications per To Go sized bottle vs over 60 from a full-sized bottle. just some thoughts