# Hello

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/5814>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [October 1, 2007, 12:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/5814 "2007-10-01T12:29:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Hunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba9def/32.png) [@Hunter](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hunter)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 12:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/5814/1 "2007-10-01T12:29:14Z")

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Hi everybody,

I want to congratulate all of you for making this,day by day,one of the bests forums I have seen,what specifically sets you apart from other forums is your “spirit of experimentation” and,from the posts I have read,the willingness to try “blindly” new mixes and posting their results in order for everybody to speed the learning process

I am new to this forum,not so to the world of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and the products of Androtics..having started years ago with the “old” A314 and “CTTM”,after the usual “old time” APC products,I would say that I started testing pheros around 4 years ago,and seriously started to know how to use them around one year and a half ago

I am male,45,happily married with 2 children,live in Europe ,and my main intended use for pheromones is for business and social interactions

I use or have used,besides the 2 above mentioned products,several other products,mainly from LS..I would say that anything with Androstenol in it works wonders with my personal chemistry,while none has given me very bad experiences with the exception of 1 product

I have never used,knowingly at least ,Androstadienone,and,after reading several of the excellent posts in this forum have ordered several “To Go” products in order to try it and several other combinations..can not wait to receive TAC and P74 😉,among others..will post my experiences with them..

Regarding my experiences with old A314 and CTTM,basically,since this is probably not the place to post them in detail, CTTM gave me exceptional social results,even unintended,like having hits from younger ladies when I just wanted to have fun with my friends..It also gave me an unbelievable “coldness” in unexpected bad-potential situations like when a big dog came barking straight at me,I was able to calm him in a few seconds just by talking I just knew he was going to calm…  
A314,the white cap bottle, was difficult to “understand”,now I understand that just a small increase in the dosage gives totally unexpected results,with no discernible pattern,like one day you become “invisible” and the next day,with the same extra dose,everybody goes the extra mile to help you..so,for me it is just one drop..when I receive mix 103 will gladly post my experiences with it and how it compares to the old A314..

See you all in the Forum

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/5814/2 "2007-10-01T16:19:48Z")

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Very interesting. I look forward to hearing of your experiences.

I’m in your same age group and use the whitecap a314 a lot. I haven’t had the experience of extreem dose sensitivity that you have. Can you tell a little more of your experiences with that?

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**Author:** ![Hunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba9def/32.png) [@Hunter](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hunter)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/5814/3 "2007-10-01T18:50:56Z")

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> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#):
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> Very interesting. I look forward to hearing of your experiences.
> 
> I’m in your same age group and use the whitecap A314 a lot. I haven’t had the experience of extreem dose sensitivity that you have. Can you tell a little more of your experiences with that?

Hi Gone with the Wind,

Some experiences I had with A314..BTW,I still have around a third of the bottle I bought,my good dose is 1 drop..so,it lasts..

1DROP:A-Playing Poker with friends,very cool & detached,didn’t want to be overly aggressive with them(usually I play a very aggressive game,we play small stakes and the winner pays dinner or some drinks,so,it is a friendly environment,not for money but ego charged,since ,usually,if you win,you lose more paying dinner or the drinks),when I felt I had to bluff,the bluffs went on smoothly..no competition,no reraises..just fold,fold,fold..not even the usual comments about “this time you were lucky..”..they believed me every time,BUT I didn’t want to press too much this advantage..I felt generous  
B-Problems with an important customer’s bad faith moves..(I own 50% of my company,wholesalers of consumer electronics, and usually am very pro customers),cooly I explain him why I think his moves are bad for him,I felt like talking to a child,had to moderate my tone..he agrees..problem solved,no negative repercussions,everybody astonished this difficult customer has agreed and keeps buying volumes with no additional problems..I felt,almost,like an Hypnotist..  
C-Dinner with friends,2 of them start a very naughty discussion,related to business issues..both ask for my opinion,in usual circumstances I would have tried to either get the support of the other “neutral” friends or avoided the issue..I decide to speak my mind..both listen and agree,dinner goes on smootly..I feel like royalty

So,with 1 drop I feel “Believable& cool” and my environment confirms this feeling ..only “slight negative” is that I feel very serious,I usually enjoy joking,jokes,laughing and “what the hell..live and enjoy”,not so with old A314

2 OR MORE DROPS:A-I park my car in the reserved space of the hotel where I am going to pick up a very important supplier,the doorman comes and,when I exit from the car he has a DIHL look..yessir was my name..I go to the bar,supplier comes to me, treats me as if I were his boss,insists on paying everything,we have dinner, I get,without pressing,exceptional conditions..I feel like I could have bought his successful company for a dime,and he would have given me a voluntary discount..I feel power,I can do as I wish,but I don’t want to press too much on my advantages..  
I feel like Milton Erickson on steroids…

B-I go to the high end wines & foods shop where they know me and have always treated me with the ,usual&normal,respect..they ignore me,a sentence comes into my mind..I do not exist,I am invisible..2 employees chatting among them and ignoring me..a new customer arrives,one of the employees automatically attends him..the other starts doing numbers with the calculator,I tell him ,again,hello,in a higly audible volume..None of the 3 people(including the new customer) seems to hear me,it is as if I am in one of these tv programs where they play jokes at you..only that this is real not a tv prank,I think about talking with the manager,then I realize..it must be the extra pheromone(A314,old bottle,nothing else)..I will come back tomorrow..I leave angry,but in control,this has never happened to me..next morning I go there,inmediately the 2 employees snap into attention,“Long time no see Sir..”..well I was here yesterday..blank stares,actually I believe I was invisble to them(Ninja pheromone 🆒 ?) and they are serious and professionals as hell,as usual..it was the pheromones..

So with2 or more drops,I feel like either “I can achieve anything and everybody is going to do what I want,but I am generous and don’t want to press too much my advantage”..or..“I am invisible..what the f… is happening”..and the environment supports the belief 🆒

My feling is that,the old,A314 is a very difficult but worthy to master pheromone,and that small variations in the quantity I use can totally alter the results

Hope this helped

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 8:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/5814/4 "2007-10-01T20:45:37Z")

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Good data. I’ve never had the “invisible” effect from a314, although the other experiences are similar to ones I’ve had.

I have used up to 5 drops whitecap with good effect.

I wonder what it is about your makeup that leads to that effect. It sounds almost like a none overdose but there is little none in a314.

What pheromones were you wearing the morning you went back to the wine shop? Anything?

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**Author:** ![Hunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba9def/32.png) [@Hunter](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hunter)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/5814/5 "2007-10-01T22:17:56Z")

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> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#):
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> Good data. I’ve never had the “invisible” effect from A314, although the other experiences are similar to ones I’ve had.
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> I have used up to 5 drops whitecap with good effect.
> 
> I wonder what it is about your makeup that leads to that effect. It sounds almost like a none overdose but there is little none in A314.
> 
> What pheromones were you wearing the morning you went back to the wine shop? Anything?

Hi,

No pheromones at all,Next morning I went to the gym,showered,changed,went there with the intention of checking if either the employees had lost it or it was the excess A314..my belief is that it was the excess A314,since the employees behaved as usual(very polite and well trained) and by their expressions and body language I am almost sure they hadn’t even seen me the day before..

Respectfully,I don’t agree with you that it looks like a none overdose,since none overdose gets people aggressive , intimidated or both..there is always a confrontational issue,at least in my case…with the extra A314 it was as if I had used an “anti A314”..instead of being in command..I didn’t exist

Similar situations,overdosing and having both sides effects ,demigod or invisible,had happened enough for me to be sure that A314 (at least the old version) is a very sensitive pheromone combination for my personal chemistry

I don’t know the reason..probably our personal chemistry changes during the day/week/month?..different stressful or not personal situations?I tried to do some systematic tests,but,frankly couldn’t stand the lottery aspect of not knowing what reaction was I going to get,and,believe me,invisibility was extremely frustrating..In addition,the “seriousness” aspect of A314 was not very encouraging..I have tested lots of combinations with betanols,alphanols,copulins,none,alpha7,SOE,CTTM,Estratetraenol,Aquagen,Liquid Trust..and have to say that my favourite for social situations is betanol with copulins…is extremely savage and fun,it inhebriates the ambience,so that not only you feel crazy and fun,but practically everybody else around you gets in synchro fun mode..followed by 1drop A314 with either 4 generous dabs of SOE or 3 drops CTTM for business situations that give me the believability&coolness while preserving my sense of humour..

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 11:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/5814/6 "2007-10-01T23:18:41Z")

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Hi Hunter 🙂

Just wanted to Welcome you to the forum. I look forward to your  
participation. Looks like your familar with the forum and products but if you have any questions just let us know.

Steveo will be around when he can, to let you know when to expect your GC.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 11:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/5814/7 "2007-10-01T23:30:47Z")

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> [@Hunter](#):
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> Respectfully,I don’t agree with you that it looks like a none overdose,since none overdose gets people aggressive , intimidated or both..there is always a confrontational issue,at least in my case…with the extra A314 it was as if I had used an “anti A314”..instead of being in command..I didn’t exist

Seems our experiences differ a bit. I’ve been “invisible” with none but no one has been confrontational to my face.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2007, 4:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/5814/8 "2007-10-02T04:10:49Z")

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Holly words a poppin! You get the most wordiest introduction award…

This is freaking amazing. Here I am thinking I write my threads way to long and along comes a writer with a whole lot to say and in the introduction threads. Great job my fellow researcher to be. What an insight you have provided to your journey. I for one am excited by this and know you will be adding some serious value to the forum.

I am sending you email GC off right away after I sit down to read Moby Dick. Another literary great. Don’t go worrying though I’m a fast reader and if I skip all the detailed little intricacies that make Moby Dick such a classic I should be done in about 24 hours. Look for your email GC in about 24 hours and if it smells like fish don’t get to upset with me. I like fish.

In all seriousness that is one killer opening.

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**Author:** ![Hunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba9def/32.png) [@Hunter](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hunter)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2007, 8:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/5814/9 "2007-10-02T08:57:23Z")

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> [@steveo](#):
>
> Holly words a poppin! You get the most wordiest introduction award…
> 
> This is freaking amazing. Here I am thinking I write my threads way to long and along comes a writer with a whole lot to say and in the introduction threads. Great job my fellow researcher to be. What an insight you have provided to your journey. I for one am excited by this and know you will be adding some serious value to the forum.
> 
> I am sending you email GC off right away after I sit down to read Moby Dick. Another literary great. Don’t go worrying though I’m a fast reader and if I skip all the detailed little intricacies that make Moby Dick such a classic I should be done in about 24 hours. …If it can help in shortening the email sending period…Ahab meets Whale,They both overdosed on none,Meeting ends badly…🆒 ..At least you are not reading “War and Peace”
> 
> In all seriousness that is one killer opening…Thanks for your warm welcome

Hi,

Thanks to you ,to Tisha and to Gone with the Wind for your kind and warm welcome.
