# Hello **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [January 10, 2014, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/60834 "2014-01-10T18:48:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gr8shag77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/edb3f5/32.png) [@Gr8shag77](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gr8shag77)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/60834/1 "2014-01-10T18:48:52Z")
Hi guys I’m an 18 year old kid in the US. My friend just told me about this site and the products so I thought I would check it out. I recently got on someone’s bad side even though I did nothing wrong and I’m trying to get back on her good side so I was thinking of trying ammunition to see if it would help out a little. Does it really work that well? I also wanted to try it to see if it would help me with regular social situations because I don’t have too many friends partly because I am visually intimidating apparently. So if anyone could tell me what they use this for and or if some other products would be better and how well it works that would be great. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/60834/2 "2014-01-10T18:57:53Z")
Welcome friend! Tell us a bit more about your personality so you can qualify for the GC. Are you the shy or the more outgoing type? What do you mean specifically when you say you got on someone’s bad side? Ammo is a general attraction product that will boost your sex appeal. As you’re young and still producing a lot of androstenone yourself, you might wanna go for the softer version, Summer Ammo. Too much Ammo can scare people away from you, due to androstenone infused intimidation. If you wanna decrease intimidation, I think socials like [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and Instant Openess will work great for you. Instant Shine creates a feel good vibe around you, and will make you look approachable. IO will get people around you (and yourself) talking (a lot!) due to the androstenol in there. In general I think socials are great at your age. Let us know if you have more questions! ---
**Author:** ![Gr8shag77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/edb3f5/32.png) [@Gr8shag77](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gr8shag77)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2014, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/60834/3 "2014-01-10T19:39:40Z")
> [@Himeros](#): > > Welcome friend! > > Tell us a bit more about your personality so you can qualify for the GC. Are you the shy or the more outgoing type? > > What do you mean specifically when you say you got on someone’s bad side? > > Ammo is a general attraction product that will boost your sex appeal. As you’re young and still producing a lot of androstenone yourself, you might wanna go for the softer version, Summer Ammo. Too much Ammo can scare people away from you, due to androstenone infused intimidation. > > If you wanna decrease intimidation, I think socials like Instant Shine and Instant Openess will work great for you. Instant Shine creates a feel good vibe around you, and will make you look approachable. IO will get people around you (and yourself) talking (a lot!) due to the androstenol in there. In general I think socials are great at your age. > > Let us know if you have more questions! I’ve always been a very shy guy but then over the summer I started dating this girl. We went out for about 6 months and it was kind of a weird relationship because she would like me one day and hate me for no reason the next. I was a really good boyfriend to her and she broke up with me a few weeks ago but said she wanted to be friends still, however she has been avoiding me and seems to be really annoyed with me for no reason. I still really like her so I would like to at least be friends with her from now on so I was wondering if this would help. When I say I’m intimidating, I mean I’m kind of tall and fit looking and my appearance, I have been told, intimidates people until they get to know me. She already knows me and realizes that I’m not intimidating. So I want regular people who don’t know me to not feel intimidated and I want her to just be more friendly with me and I’m just wondering if this stuff can help. And just out of curiosity, how does this stuff work? ---
**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wyatt)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/60834/4 "2014-01-11T02:22:17Z")
She’s young and has a buttload of hormones to deal with. I’m amazed women survive puberty as well as they do. Guys just have to deal with wanting to mount every woman they see 24/7 until their hormones start dropping at 18 and getting manageable around 23. Hers will have her hot for a bad boy one day and three days later not nearly as interested in sex and looking for a more nurturing, protective guy. Some of her actions will be due to that, being her hormones and their massive fluctuations play havoc with her reality. However, some of her actions sounds like she’s likely shit testing you, that is to see if you’re a man (he’s the shit), or if you give into every single one of her desires (he’s not the shit). If you do give into every single one of them part of her will like you and part of her will view you as weak for just doing whatever she wants and part of her is telling her to find a more manly guy. Also some of what she’s doing and going through is just general immaturity. I’d suggest saying ‘no’ to her more often unless YOU really want to do what she wants or only do certain things that she wants on various conditions. Ie. it’ll cost you a kiss or something like that. If she wants you to quit a behaviour that you really like it’s a full on ‘NO’ full stop and suggest something as equally stupid that she loves for her to stop doing. As for how this stuff works, a lot of it is hardwired to evolution, your genes and their expression. A lot is also based on cultural experiences mixed along with personal ones. There is an organ within the nose called the vameronasal organ (VNO). It is at the base of the nose and is primarily for detecting pheromones. What it detects is sent to the brain and your instincts plus past experiences sends a vibe so to speak along to your subconscious with various bits of information about what you smelled and you might notice the feeling or not consciously, but likely you’ll be influenced subconsciously one way or another. Keep in mind your conscious mind in reality takes up very little processing power of your brain so to speak and is often along for the ride and just goes along with things. In your case, I’d recommend IG and Ammo to use about her. Use either one OR the other and test. I’d also snag some [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and consider picking up some IO for light flirting and fooling around and IH for discussing relationship issues. For getting back with her, mainly have fun, keep things light and playful for weeks (IS and IO can help here). Wear IG in the day, Ammo at night IF you think things are going physical. For Ammo at your age one spray max in my opinion. One or two sprays of IG should be fine, but don’t do testing around her, but on other people first. When things get close again slap on some IH and have a deep heart to heart. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![Gr8shag77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/edb3f5/32.png) [@Gr8shag77](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gr8shag77)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 6:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/60834/5 "2014-01-11T06:05:26Z")
> [@Wyatt](#): > > She’s young and has a buttload of hormones to deal with. I’m amazed women survive puberty as well as they do. Guys just have to deal with wanting to mount every woman they see 24/7 until their hormones start dropping at 18 and getting manageable around 23. Hers will have her hot for a bad boy one day and three days later not nearly as interested in sex and looking for a more nurturing, protective guy. Some of her actions will be due to that, being her hormones and their massive fluctuations play havoc with her reality. However, some of her actions sounds like she’s likely shit testing you, that is to see if you’re a man (he’s the shit), or if you give into every single one of her desires (he’s not the shit). If you do give into every single one of them part of her will like you and part of her will view you as weak for just doing whatever she wants and part of her is telling her to find a more manly guy. Also some of what she’s doing and going through is just general immaturity. I’d suggest saying ‘no’ to her more often unless YOU really want to do what she wants or only do certain things that she wants on various conditions. Ie. it’ll cost you a kiss or something like that. If she wants you to quit a behaviour that you really like it’s a full on ‘NO’ full stop and suggest something as equally stupid that she loves for her to stop doing. > > As for how this stuff works, a lot of it is hardwired to evolution, your genes and their expression. A lot is also based on cultural experiences mixed along with personal ones. There is an organ within the nose called the vameronasal organ (VNO). It is at the base of the nose and is primarily for detecting pheromones. What it detects is sent to the brain and your instincts plus past experiences sends a vibe so to speak along to your subconscious with various bits of information about what you smelled and you might notice the feeling or not consciously, but likely you’ll be influenced subconsciously one way or another. Keep in mind your conscious mind in reality takes up very little processing power of your brain so to speak and is often along for the ride and just goes along with things. > > In your case, I’d recommend IG and Ammo to use about her. Use either one OR the other and test. I’d also snag some Instant Shine and consider picking up some IO for light flirting and fooling around and IH for discussing relationship issues. > > For getting back with her, mainly have fun, keep things light and playful for weeks (IS and IO can help here). Wear IG in the day, Ammo at night IF you think things are going physical. For Ammo at your age one spray max in my opinion. One or two sprays of IG should be fine, but don’t do testing around her, but on other people first. When things get close again slap on some IH and have a deep heart to heart. > > Good luck! Thank you so much. I really appreciate all your help and by the way if I wanted to test this on someone else could I tell them that I’m wearing it and then see if they notice a difference or does it only work if they don’t know about it? ---
**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wyatt)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 6:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/60834/6 "2014-01-11T06:13:35Z")
> [@Gr8shag77](#): > > Thank you so much. I really appreciate all your help and by the way if I wanted to test this on someone else could I tell them that I’m wearing it and then see if they notice a difference or does it only work if they don’t know about it? They work regardless, but they usually work better to much better if they don’t know about it. ---
**Author:** ![Gr8shag77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/edb3f5/32.png) [@Gr8shag77](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gr8shag77)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 9:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/60834/7 "2014-01-11T21:27:31Z")
> [@Wyatt](#): > > They work regardless, but they usually work better to much better if they don’t know about it. What are ExpiriMones? And for the ExpiriMones P83 and TAC that you suggested, how do you know which concentration to pick and what do you use these for? I couldn’t find much information on them. Also for Love Scent A1, [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) xs bliss, odyssey, flirt, and pheromone m11, what are they? I searched them but it showed no results. ---
**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wyatt)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2014, 11:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/60834/8 "2014-01-11T23:48:56Z")
> [@Gr8shag77](#): > > What are ExpiriMones? And for the ExpiriMones P83 and TAC that you suggested, how do you know which concentration to pick and what do you use these for? I couldn’t find much information on them. Also for Love Scent A1, pheromone xs bliss, odyssey, flirt, and pheromone m11, what are they? I searched them but it showed no results. Heh, you’ve been reading from my signature at the bottom of each of my messages. The only mones I’ve recommend to you are Ammo, [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) and Instant Shine with perhaps Instant Openness. As for P83. I’d wait till you’ve had experiences with other pheromones first. It’s my number two problematic mone in terms of ODing, however it’s an integral component of my MX297 mix. In terms of mcgs, I bought it in a 25mcg spray as I don’t like to spray on 5 sprays of perfume of say 5mcg to reach 25mcgs and have myself and everyone else gagging in a perfumed cloud. TAC, I use it mainly for the bedroom. I need to practice working it some more before I can comment on recommending it outside of the bedroom. I went with 30mcg as most of the good effects from some long term users were in the 30 to 60mcg range. Love Scent is a different phero company. A1 is a pheromone that AD no longer sells due to known depression issues with a significant number of men. (It’d hurt their business with returns if men put on some products then complained about just how negative they felt while wearing them). I love A1 when using it with women, but lately taking a break from it to work on my game without using A1. I don’t recommend A1 to men normally as I’ve read so many reports on depression with it and for them to drop 70 dollars on a half bottle when shipping is included just to feel crappy, down right depressed isn’t good. They can read my reports in my journal or other reports on-line. It’s bliss in a bottle for women though and if they suffer hard from PMS, period symptoms or anxiety, then I whole heartedly recommend it to them for self usage. PheromoneXS is a company started by a former staff member from AD, Steve O. His products are excellent, but his flagship product Bliss although amazing in some respects for an IDGAF attitude also leads it, at least for me, very hard to pick up a woman as they also DGAF. I’ll open 30 women in 90 minutes just for practice, but no one GAF. I plan to mainly use it for on-line sales and solely for the self effects there. Odyssey is AMAZING, right up there with MX297, but it’s mainly for fun. You don’t wear it when hunting for women and such, just socializing. It’s a knockoff of AD’s Spaceland (wish I could get it). Some say it’s a tad better than AD’s original, some say a tad worse, but most agree that it’s pretty dang close to the original. Flirt is an excellent product, and I personally like it better than IO. However, at one spray it’s a bit over the top and things can get a bit crazy with it. I have to use about 5 sprays of IO to get similar effects. Pherone’s M-11 is their best selling product. I’d say it’s a high A1, moderate rone, and low none based product with I’m thinking some a-nol thrown in. It was the first pheromone where I am certain it was the key factor in f-closing on the first night as my game sucked back then. Back to your original question 😉 I’d suggest either Ammo or IG plus some Instant Shine. ---
**Author:** ![Gr8shag77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/edb3f5/32.png) [@Gr8shag77](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gr8shag77)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/60834/9 "2014-01-12T00:02:06Z")
> [@Wyatt](#): > > Heh, you’ve been reading from my signature at the bottom of each of my messages. The only mones I’ve recommend to you are Ammo, Instant Gentleman and Instant Shine with perhaps Instant Openness. > > As for P83. I’d wait till you’ve had experiences with other pheromones first. It’s my number two problematic mone in terms of ODing, however it’s an integral component of my MX297 mix. In terms of mcgs, I bought it in a 25mcg spray as I don’t like to spray on 5 sprays of perfume of say 5mcg to reach 25mcgs and have myself and everyone else gagging in a perfumed cloud. > > TAC, I use it mainly for the bedroom. I need to practice working it some more before I can comment on recommending it outside of the bedroom. I went with 30mcg as most of the good effects from some long term users were in the 30 to 60mcg range. > > Love Scent is a different phero company. A1 is a pheromone that AD no longer sells due to known depression issues with a significant number of men. (It’d hurt their business with returns if men put on some products then complained about just how negative they felt while wearing them). I love A1 when using it with women, but lately taking a break from it to work on my game without using A1. I don’t recommend A1 to men normally as I’ve read so many reports on depression with it and for them to drop 70 dollars on a half bottle when shipping is included just to feel crappy, down right depressed isn’t good. They can read my reports in my journal or other reports on-line. It’s bliss in a bottle for women though and if they suffer hard from PMS, period symptoms or anxiety, then I whole heartedly recommend it to them for self usage. > > PheromoneXS is a company started by a former staff member from AD, Steve O. > > His products are excellent, but his flagship product Bliss although amazing in some respects for an IDGAF attitude also leads it, at least for me, very hard to pick up a woman as they also DGAF. I’ll open 30 women in 90 minutes just for practice, but no one GAF. I plan to mainly use it for on-line sales and solely for the self effects there. > > Odyssey is AMAZING, right up there with MX297, but it’s mainly for fun. You don’t wear it when hunting for women and such, just socializing. It’s a knockoff of AD’s Spaceland (wish I could get it). Some say it’s a tad better than AD’s original, some say a tad worse, but most agree that it’s pretty dang close to the original. > > Flirt is an excellent product, and I personally like it better than IO. However, at one spray it’s a bit over the top and things can get a bit crazy with it. I have to use about 5 sprays of IO to get similar effects. > > Pherone’s M-11 is their best selling product. I’d say it’s a high A1, moderate rone, and low none based product with I’m thinking some a-nol thrown in. It was the first pheromone where I am certain it was the key factor in f-closing on the first night as my game sucked back then. > > Back to your original question 😉 I’d suggest either Ammo or IG plus some Instant Shine. Oops haha I didn’t notice that. Thanks for the information anyway though. Do you work for this company in particular or do you just happen to know a lot about how it works? ---
**Author:** ![Gr8shag77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/edb3f5/32.png) [@Gr8shag77](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gr8shag77)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 1:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/60834/10 "2014-01-12T01:33:01Z")
Also I just purchased the “killer pheromone kit for newbies” because it has a few extras in there that i wanted to let my friend try and i will probably try them eventually too but can all of those be combined with each other? ---
**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wyatt)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 1:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/60834/11 "2014-01-12T01:41:45Z")
> [@Gr8shag77](#): > > Oops haha I didn’t notice that. Thanks for the information anyway though. Do you work for this company in particular or do you just happen to know a lot about how it works? I’ve just read a TON of stuff, both on AD and other companies. I mainly stick with AD stuff as I can count on it if it’s in their consumer line to work. Some other companies I think release some products too soon without enough testing, so some of their products are amazing while some others need work, and thus waste my time testing a product that slowly fades away. That said, AD’s [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) is ready for primetime (June edition) and they should just go mainstream, but I also think they should tweak IO a bit. (AD usually takes a long, long time to finalize their formulas). My ultimate goal is best of breed for various situations, but at the same time use up the product that I have. MX297 and A314 certainly fit the bill as do certain putatives such as TAC for pinpoint applications. ---
**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wyatt)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2014, 1:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/60834/12 "2014-01-12T01:43:38Z")
> [@Gr8shag77](#): > > Also I just purchased the “killer pheromone kit for newbies” because it has a few extras in there that i wanted to let my friend try and i will probably try them eventually too but can all of those be combined with each other? In general yes, but some things work better with others, some not so well. Read a ton, test a ton. What works for me or doesn’t for that matter might be entirely different for you. ---
**Author:** ![Gr8shag77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/edb3f5/32.png) [@Gr8shag77](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gr8shag77)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/60834/13 "2014-01-15T22:31:24Z")
> [@Wyatt](#): > > In general yes, but some things work better with others, some not so well. Read a ton, test a ton. What works for me or doesn’t for that matter might be entirely different for you. Hey its me again? I just got my new mones i only used ammo so far. I went to talk to that girl after school today and it went pretty terribly to be honest. I know these moves aren’t magic and won’t just make her automatically like me but i was hoping to notice some difference, however, i heard that you have to act friendly, if you want a mone that is designed to get you friendly attention, in order for the pheromone to actually do its job. So for ammo, IS, IO, IJ, IG, P102, and A314 how exactly are you supposed to behave in order to get the most noticeable effects? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 12:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/60834/14 "2014-01-16T00:06:42Z")
> [@Gr8shag77](#): > > Oops haha I didn’t notice that. Thanks for the information anyway though. Do you work for this company in particular or do you just happen to know a lot about how it works? I think you will find that a lot of us are enthusiastic hobbyists when it comes to pheros and have tried products from a range of different companies. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 12:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/60834/15 "2014-01-16T00:15:13Z")
> [@Gr8shag77](#): > > Hey its me again? I just got my new mones i only used ammo so far. I went to talk to that girl after school today and it went pretty terribly to be honest. I know these moves aren’t magic and won’t just make her automatically like me but i was hoping to notice some difference, however, i heard that you have to act friendly, if you want a mone that is designed to get you friendly attention, in order for the pheromone to actually do its job. So for ammo, IS, IO, IJ, IG, P102, and A314 how exactly are you supposed to behave in order to get the most noticeable effects? Very generally, no phero will make someone like dramatically reposition their attitude and like you where there was trouble before - but some do make the task of bringing someone back round a lot easier - but it may take a few exposures for the effects to sink-in and she associates the new sig with you. Put-on and forget is probably the best way to use pheros - and don’t go out of your way to try and be nice or win her back. Often that will only make things worse and you should not underestimate the power of emotional dissonance when it comes to promoting attraction - Notice how its seldom the doormat, people-pleaser or emotional tampon guys who get all the female attention. I’m not saying you should be an outright arsehole (have good standards yourself!) but often, being a bit contrary, stubborn or infuriating and being quite unapologetic about it can do a lot more for attraction in the long-run than being a wee-sook! Ammo/IS or [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)/IG (day to day), TUTH/IO/IS (clubs/parties/night time), IH/IS or IS/IG (polite company/work/in class) are all mixes that could be useful in your situation for various combinations of smart/social/sexy/masculine/fun/bonding. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 12:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/60834/16 "2014-01-16T00:30:19Z")
> [@Gr8shag77](#): > > because it has a few extras in there that i wanted to let my friend try Pheros and “friends” - Ensure you can trust the guy before you let him into your phero secret. And even then, **only** do so on the clear inference that he will suffer extreme damage if he breathes a word to **anyone** about them! All to often, we see a young guy pitch-up here with the sad tale of how they told about/shared their pheros with a friend, sibling or someone else close - and they went and blew it wide open, resulting in the poor lad being treated like a creep, pest, rapist, addict or some other form of controling/manipulative fuck. There really are a lot of people with gross misconceptions about pheros out there, so it often pays not to spread it around. Then there is the other side of the coin where the guy concerned has his entire phero stash consumed by an army of curious friends, determined to have a try themselves - and pheros ain’t cheap! 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Gr8shag77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/edb3f5/32.png) [@Gr8shag77](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gr8shag77)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 12:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/60834/17 "2014-01-16T00:39:12Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Pheros and “friends” - Ensure you can trust the guy before you let him into your phero secret. And even then, **only** do so on the clear inference that he will suffer extreme damage if he breathes a word to **anyone** about them! > > All to often, we see a young guy pitch-up here with the sad tale of how they told about/shared their pheros with a friend, sibling or someone else close - and they went and blew it wide open, resulting in the poor lad being treated like a creep, pest, rapist, addict or some other form of controling/manipulative fuck. There really are a lot of people with gross misconceptions about pheros out there, so it often pays not to spread it around. > > Then there is the other side of the coin where the guy concerned has his entire phero stash consumed by an army of curious friends, determined to have a try themselves - and pheros ain’t cheap! 😮 believe me I’ve thought about that. this kid however is the one who introduced me to [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and he’s on the same page as me when it comes to not telling anyone about it so no worries. ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 12:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/60834/18 "2014-01-16T00:51:16Z")
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