# Hello! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [November 2, 2007, 12:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6367 "2007-11-02T12:18:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cy100](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8dc957/32.png) [@Cy100](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cy100)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 12:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6367/1 "2007-11-02T12:18:24Z")
Hi, I’m new to this Forum, as well as to Pheromons. I got interessted when I saw Ocean’s 13, where they use a so called Gilroy to attract Al Pacino’s assitant… So I was looking around and found this forum. I’m a 36-Year old white half-italian, half-german man, living in Germany. I’ve never had too many problems with women, except one… Since a few days, I’m a passive reader, but now I thought you guys may help me with a “small Problem”. I know a woman, and we’ve been together (sex) a while ago. Now, due to the fact that we’re close friends, and working together, she don’t want to continue dating me… or better, having sex with me. Now, I don’t have a problem with that, but I’m so curious if she still want me (sometimes, I’m getting really strong signals… hugging, little kisses, close looks etc.). So, I think she may be stopping herself because of the circumstances, and I’d like to know how to find out. I’d like to try out these Pheromons, but which one??? 😕 I don’t need to build up trust etc (that would be 314, right?), all I need is to something that makes her a little less “resistant”, or to turn her on (would that be Turn Up The Heat?). What would be your recommendation? Thanks a lot in advance! Cheers Cy1 ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 2:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6367/2 "2007-11-02T14:07:58Z")
Welcome to the forum fellow landsman! First of all I want to make sure that you understand that mones aren’t a magical thing - they won’t override someone else’s will. However, they can help greatly! TUTH could indeed be what you are looking for, but I would try [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) first - it contains -none (the main ingredient of TUTH) too, but is easier to handle and less intimidating. Read your way through the stickies at the top of the men’s section - they answer a lot of the many questions first time users often have. Have fun with the mones and good luck with your lady! Regards from Berlin, bb ---
**Author:** ![Cy100](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8dc957/32.png) [@Cy100](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cy100)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 2:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6367/3 "2007-11-02T14:32:00Z")
Hi, thanks for the reply! (are you german or italian? /Edit: Oh, I see, you live in Germany! Cool!) Don’t misunderstand me: I’m quite sure that she still likes me a lot, and I want to find out if with these pheromons, I could “convince” her to get back to where we were. However, I respect her, and if she really don’t want to do this, as you said, these phero’s wouldn’t help either. So, this is more like a test if a person that is already close to you, and does like you, if she’s getting a step ahead. I don’t know if I would use these phero’s in public or in a club; so far there was no need for that. But I do admit, I’m curious… 😛 if and how they work. So, basically, you say Ammo is the thing to go… should I mix it with something else, such as Instant Female magic? Any opinions? Cheers Cy1 ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 7:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6367/4 "2007-11-02T19:21:56Z")
I always like adding a little [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) when wearing Ammo - it makes you a little more desirable and makes others (and yourself) feel good around you. IFM is said to help greatly during women’s ‘hard time of the month’, and generally lets them feel very comfortable with you. A lot of people think it stinks a bit, so make sure to cover it (if you are using Ammo at the same time it should be enough). Hoffe geholfen zu haben 😉 bb ---
**Author:** ![Cy100](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8dc957/32.png) [@Cy100](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cy100)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6367/5 "2007-11-02T19:38:28Z")
Hi, all right, that helps a lot. I’ll wait for my 15$ discount, and then I’ll place an order for Ammo, TUTH and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). I’ll give it a shot, and I’ll post the results here. Ja, vielen Dank für Deine Hilfe, werde bestimmt noch weitere Fragen haben! CU Cy1 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 10:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6367/6 "2007-11-02T22:25:51Z")
Hello Welcome to the forum 🙂 I would go with TUTH because you have had sex already. Your 36 and can handle a good dose of anone. How old is she by the way? If she is close to your age then defiantly TUTH. It can be overwheming to the girls in there 20’s sometimes but from around 30 up we love it. 😉 Now I am not saying AMMO is not good, its a fantastic all round product it has a sexy edge to it. Great for attracting women but you already know she is attracted to you or she never would have done it with you in the first place. Tish ---
**Author:** ![Cy100](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8dc957/32.png) [@Cy100](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cy100)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2007, 2:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6367/7 "2007-11-03T02:33:08Z")
Hi, thank you, Tish! That is exactly the answer I was looking for. And, she’s 34, so close to my age. Would you mix TUTH with something else, as described above? As you are a woman, I’d like to ask you a question: did you ever got attracted to a man, not knowing why, and you found out (later) it was because of one of these Phero’s? Don’t know if there’s a proper answer, but would you say that you ever had sex with a man because of these Phero’s, and without them you would not have had sex with him? Sorry, lots of (maybe weird 😉 ) question, but I have to say, I’m getting more and more curious about this whole topic… Cu Cy1 PS: Another thing: is there really something like a GILROY as in Ocean’s 13? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2007, 3:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6367/8 "2007-11-03T03:03:44Z")
> [@](#): > > PS: Another thing: is there really something like a GILROY as in Ocean’s 13? No that is hype. > [@](#): > > As you are a woman, I’d like to ask you a question: did you ever got attracted to a man, not knowing why, and you found out (later) it was because of one of these Phero’s? Don’t know if there’s a proper answer, but would you say that you ever had sex with a man because of these Phero’s, and without them you would not have had sex with him? Can I plead the 5th amendment ? LOL just kidding. No I have never had sex with someone just because he was wearing pheromones. They dont work that way. pheromones can influence and entice feelings of arousal and as long as the person is somewhat attracted to you it can make them feel comfortable enough to lose inhibitions. They wont make someone do something they are dead set against doing though. Now I have been attracted to men that are not the normal type I am attracted to. I have no idea if they wore pheromones or not. Could have been there natural pheromones but I am married so while I find them attractive I am not gonna go against my own personal beliefs. I do have Turn Up The Heat which is a mens product. I can tell you that it makes me hornier then hell when worn by a man. My girl friends who know I use pheromones have smelt it and feel the same way. They love it in the bottle but love it more when worn by a man. My best friend who is male uses it and I will get aroused by it ( which he thinks is funny as hell) but if he uses way to much I get bitchy so you need to start with just one spray and go slow. For women, we need to be more careful with wearing Androstenone products then most of the others pheromones. Some us will react badly if we wear to much. We love it on men though. Personaly I usually just use a dab under my nose or on my neck to make a more intense… ummm experience in the bedroom. 😉 Oh I forgot Shine go’s nicely with it to make it more playful. Instant Honesty would go well to make it more deep and intimate. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) would make it more fun and verbal. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 7:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6367/9 "2007-11-05T19:05:51Z")
I do believe it needs to be made absolutely clear. Ocean 13 is a movie and is absolute fiction. If you are expecting results close to that scene or even 1/10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 to that scene you are absolutely in the wrong place and I highly recommend you don’t waste your time. They don’t work that way. OK just wanted to make that clear. So Tisha and BubbleBob both offer some sound advice. To help you get started I am sending you your email GC tonight. I hope you will find our products good in your endeavors. Welcome to the forum and be sure to post your questions. We are here to help. ---
**Author:** ![Cy100](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8dc957/32.png) [@Cy100](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cy100)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2007, 10:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6367/10 "2007-11-05T22:55:03Z")
Thanks for the “clarification”, even though I did not expect anything close to a “Gilroy”. 😉 It’s clear that no phero will have that effect, but it could have been that Gilroy is a real brand. However, in this certain case, I will give these Phero’s a shot, knowing that it will not change someones free will (or, unwill). As said before, IF there are any results which I can somehow direct to the usage of these products, I’ll post them here, no matter if they’re good or bad. I’m still curious, but I don’t expect any woman “drooling or dripping” because of any phero’s. Cheers Cy1 /Edit: and, thank you in advance for the coupon. I will follow Tisha’s recommendation, and try these out.