# Hello

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6808>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [November 21, 2007, 8:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6808 "2007-11-21T08:57:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
**Page:** 2

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2007, 2:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6808/21 "2007-11-26T14:30:26Z")

</div>

I find myself coming back to this thread over-and-over, because I’ve walked the walk, in both Checkmate and SteveO’s shoes, and while those shoes were a comfortable fit for the longest time, the reality was that at the end of the day they didn’t leave me feeling very good about myself, or with much of a will to live.

Tisha’s suggestion that the universe gives you what it thinks you want is all so true. If you believe that you’re a loser, then you will never expect anything but misery and failures out of life. And, how is anybody else ever to see you as something more?

It’s really not that hard to make the change from being a loser to a winner. It’s a matter of mind set, mental reprogramming and putting forth the work and effort to achieve what you want. The way in which other people view us tends to mirror the way we feel about and project ourselves.

I do believe that if you purchased pheromones and believed 100% in your heart that would help you get what you wanted, they would. I also believe that 95% of those achievements would be due to a placebo effect, in that maybe for the first time in your life you actually believed in yourself enough and made the effort to let yourself succeed.

Success is not bought and doesn’t come easy. You have to work to achieve it, whether that be in dating, relationships, marriage, work or any other aspect of life. If it came too easy, it wouldn’t be worth striving for.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Checkmate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Checkmate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Checkmate)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2007, 6:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6808/22 "2007-11-26T18:06:37Z")

</div>

arrrrggggg, misclick = gone!!!

My entry is gone! a long damn thankful entry one!!!

I’ll write it again when I have some free time, I gotta go now ☹

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Checkmate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Checkmate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Checkmate)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2007, 6:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6808/23 "2007-11-26T18:38:01Z")

</div>

Here it is again:

Alright, I’m waiting for my first packs of pheromones (which is Ammunition, Instant Shine, Instant Openess) which will arrive today or tomorrow.

I’ll be getting [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), and A314 when they get in-stock.

Is there any recommendation for me?

> [@](#):
>
> …If you believe that you’re a loser, then you will never expect anything but misery and failures out of life…
> 
> …It’s really not that hard to make the change from being a loser to a winner. It’s a matter of mind set…

Damn Right! But it’s hard to make up my mind, although I’m trying my best to do so now! Wish me luck then!

> [@](#):
>
> If it came too easy, it wouldn’t be worth striving for.

That’s how life is interesting, isn’t it?

Thanks for your advice mark-in-dallas. You probably have more experience in life than me! I’ll seek for your advice another time!

Hi SteveO. Thanks for the GC! 😃 it will help, this way or that way!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2007, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6808/24 "2007-11-26T23:19:06Z")

</div>

Checkmate, Wear the Instant Shine always, as well as A314 when you can get it. Save the Ammo till the time comes when you start seeing yourself in a better light, and one in control of your destiny. Otherwise, even if you were to attract attention, I think without working on yourself first, that attention would be short lived, and leave you feeling worse than before.

I am on the fence about using the [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) at this point, unless you feel that you can engage in MEANINGFUL, non-negative conversations.

And again, I’'ll stress that change is not that hard, if you put your mind to it and seek assistance - whether that be through books, or observing and trying to mirror the way successful peope act, react and interact with others.

What I don’t understand is why it’s so hard for you to make the decision to start being a winner and take steps to achieve that goal.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Checkmate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Checkmate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Checkmate)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6808/25 "2007-11-27T01:02:14Z")

</div>

Desperation I think?

You know, they say Buy a failure is the mother of success

But everytime I fail, there is something I lose: trust, trust in myself. And I was like “one losing battle after another”, which putting me into a state of despair.

Right now however, I’m putting most of my effort to change my mind, change myself. And this might be the last push, or I’ll just leave me this way.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 2:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6808/26 "2007-11-27T02:59:10Z")

</div>

The past is just that, past, over and gone forever. While you definitely want to look to the past to prevent repeating previous mistakes, if you live in the past, you can’t appreciate the todays or tomorrows, and that’s really what life is about: the prospect of a new tomorrow and a chance to start anew.

Live for the future, but look to the past for experience and wisdom.

Thomas Edison failed over 3000 times, before a practical lightbulb emerged.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![ogt192](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ogt192/32/657_2.png) [@ogt192](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ogt192)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 4:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6808/27 "2007-11-27T04:01:26Z")

</div>

Hey checkmate. I too have had girls that I thought I loved, or really liked do the just be friends thing. But I look back on all the HUGE mistakes I made, and tell myself I will not do it like that again.

For example, while I was wearing pheromones, I was out with dinner with a “friend” the I wanted to have sex with. she straight up told me that she wanted to sleep with me. I was so dumbstruck that all I could say was “really?” Thinking back I should have played even MORE hard to get. And if that ever happens to me again, I will.

Reading double your dating really helps. But it takes time and the right mindset. And you have to keep that mindset in your mind at all times. A good way of doing that is to get the David DeAngelo text messages for your phone. They are good little tips to have on you at all times.

Before reading that book, I almost never teased girls. Now when I meet an attractive girl I IMMEDIATELY find something, ANYTHING, to tease her about. And they love it.

I didn’t lose my virginity until I was 21, and I’ve only had sex with that one girl. And believe me, she was no prize, but I’ve learned that there are more girls, just put yourself out there, and if they don’t like you, then fuck 'em.

One more thing, I recommend reading the book “How to Talk to Anyone” by Leil Lowndes. It has step-by-step instructions on meeting people and getting them to warm up to you. I think it’ll be a good confidence booster.

And take Double Your Dating one step at a time. You can read it all you want, but nothing will happen if you haven’t practiced it. That’s how it worked for me. Honestly, have you practiced the techniques with new people?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Checkmate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Checkmate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Checkmate)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2007, 4:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6808/28 "2007-11-28T04:58:52Z")

</div>

> [@](#):
>
> Thomas Edison failed over 3000 times, before a practical lightbulb emerged.

I know I probably won’t stand for more than 10 times… But we’ll see

> [@](#):
>
> when I meet an attractive girl I IMMEDIATELY find something, ANYTHING, to tease her about. And they love it.

I did, and they loved it too. But guess what? In the end, I’m still a loser!

> [@](#):
>
> And believe me, she was no prize

Then did you get any real prize since then?

> [@](#):
>
> I recommend reading the book “How to Talk to Anyone” by Leil Lowndes

Looking for it on amazon, ordering it now!

> [@](#):
>
> And take Double Your Dating one step at a time

It’s all over, 2 years ago! But I’ll take a look at it, again!

> [@](#):
>
> Honestly, have you practiced the techniques with new people?

Still doing it now, but still being a loser.

Alright thanks for all of your advice. I’ll take it seriously, and will try to figure it out.

I have a couple question as pheromones newbie.

I have Instant Shine, Ammo, and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) now

Where should I apply my pheromones? (Chest or Hair or Hands?) Do you have any recommendation for a mix that works good for me? (just, general use, daily use, nothing special, you know!)

I know that apply on chest or hair will effect me, but which pheromones can create negative effect on yourself? Is there such thing?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![bronnamdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@bronnamdi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronnamdi)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2007, 3:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6808/29 "2007-12-09T03:40:37Z")

</div>

If you make use of all the advice you have received so far and added to what you already know, very soon you will be asking how to keep the girls away. Act on what has been given to you.

[Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/6808.md?page=1)
