# Hello **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [December 21, 2007, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/7638 "2007-12-21T02:02:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mewgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@mewgirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mewgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/7638/1 "2007-12-21T02:02:19Z")
My name is Raven, and I’m here because of two reasons… one I saw a thread here through Google and thought to start a similar thread with my own situation, after reading (finallY!) about what an OD does bad (if anything) through the alt text on the word OD in this forum, and I also read about Androsterone having extreme effects BOTH GOOD AND BAD… have some questions about that. The second reason is actually because I was referred to a “forum” by another site to read about OD\< but the forum was never mentioned or linked to, I was wondering if this was it… of course I don’t need that anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 2:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/7638/2 "2007-12-21T02:04:16Z")
Welcome! anone is the [pheromone](https://a314.com/) most prone to ODs. Most ladies don’t use it much. Most people can take a lot of rone without bad effect. ---
**Author:** ![DrZorters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@DrZorters](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DrZorters)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 2:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/7638/3 "2007-12-21T02:25:28Z")
Welcome to the forum Rave! Check out the stickies in the womens section for some great information. Try To Go bottles to find your faves. DrZorters ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 2:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/7638/4 "2007-12-21T02:25:44Z")
Hi Raven Welcome! There is no chance of od if you start by spraying only one, and adjust if more is needed Ammo and turn up the heat contain none (Turn Up The Heat has a lot more so use it carefully) Yeah none is also a powerful male sexual pheromone but female can still use it You virtually cannot have a bad od with [social pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) like instant openness and instant honesty, containing -nols A and B ---
**Author:** ![mewgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@mewgirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mewgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 2:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/7638/5 "2007-12-21T02:49:48Z")
Thanks, I know that but with the one I used I always one more bcause 1) the scent did not last as long as the [pheromones](https://a314.com/), and 2) well, I really wish you couldn’t O.D. because I want to make sure I have enough! (After all we do have some naturally on our own, so we’re already adding more by even using a product, and yes I do know one dab won’t O.D… then again I’d also want to put some at each pulse point and/or each area the guy may put his head near). ---
**Author:** ![mewgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@mewgirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mewgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 9:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/7638/6 "2007-12-23T09:00:56Z")
Weird, I seem to have missed some of the posts in this topic before… is it really that difficult to OD? When I had Andro-whatev before, I did use quite a bit. After all I do need at least one dab on each pulse point, and I usually reapplied for fear of it wearing off, not to mention the scent actually does wear off so I’d reapply to get the scent. No matter how much I used, it just made one guy more and more horny, and while it didn’t seem to have any effect on the giy who already pretty much hated me, it still affected my current booyfriend when I used it too. I think I might have even used some on my son’s father with a horniness effect as well (if I did I just had him smell the bottle), but I can’t remember for sure. I do know it was after I met him that I lost my purse… I think. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 1:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/7638/7 "2007-12-23T13:49:04Z")
Hello Raven, We have talked but I didnt get a chance to welcome you. 🙂 > [@](#): > > is it really that difficult to OD? No its not difficult to OD with Androstenone when worn by a women or for a young man for that matter. We always advise never to over do with Androstenone products. I would not even suggest one full spray for women most of the ladies just open the spray bottle and use a small dab. Ammo I just would not wear as a women. I like being a women. I like smelling like a women and I like attracting men (mainly my husband) like a women. Men will get aroused at times around Androstenone but not in the same way they are aroused by a women. It gets there competitive nature flowing and adrenalin pumping. But it wont attract them to you, you just happened to be there when they were effected. More does not mean better when it comes to pheromones. Just so you know women generally dont make alot of Androstenone on there own. Just teeny tiny miniscule amounts. We make nols and copulins mostly. Men make more Androstenone and Androsterone as well as a few others. The only one they cant make naturally is copulins. Just because the scent is gone doesnt mean the pheromones are gone. They will last anywhere from 3 to 8 hours unless they are oil based then they will diffuse slower and last longer. Your boyfriends head dosnt need to be close to the pulse point that you used it on. The point of the pulse point application is to make the pheromones diffuse from your body just like antural pheromones do, from the heat. He can be standing a few feet away and be effected as long as your pulse point is not buried under layers of cloths. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![mewgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@mewgirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mewgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 10:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/7638/8 "2007-12-23T22:21:11Z")
Thanks for the welcome 🙂. I know that the scent wearing off does not mean the pheromones have worn off, that’s why I listed them as two SEPERATE reasons, with the pheromone one being a FEAR because there is no way to tell when or if they have worn off. The Androstonene product that is literally called Androstonene , as I keep trying to tell people I am usually referring to when I talk about using that chemical, is in lavender and I think rose oils. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 11:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/7638/9 "2007-12-23T23:05:46Z")
You called it andro-whatever before so I was unsure which you ment. I have never heard of Androstonene are you sure your not spelling it wrong. I am hoping its not Androstene that you are referring to. That is not a human mone but a steriod that clings to estrogen and changes it. Mostly derived from wild boars. Well here this explains it clearer. > [@](#): > > 4-Androstene-3,6,17-trione (4-AT) is a potent irreversible [aromatase inhibitor](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aromatase_inhibitor) that inhibits estrogen biosynthesis by permanently binding and inactivating aromatase in [adipose](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adipose) and peripheral tissue. [2] ([4-Androstene-3,6,17-trione - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-Androstene-3,6,17-trione#_note-1))[3] ([4-Androstene-3,6,17-trione - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-Androstene-3,6,17-trione#_note-2))[4] ([4-Androstene-3,6,17-trione - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-Androstene-3,6,17-trione#_note-3)) [Aromatase](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aromatase) is responsible for the conversion of [testosterone](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone) to [estradiol](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estradiol). Blocking aromatase causes the body to decrease in levels of estradiol, There are some ebay sellers who sell it and call it a human mone but its not. I checked and there’s comes in a lavender or rose EO. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![mewgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@mewgirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mewgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 12:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/7638/10 "2007-12-24T00:06:56Z")
The same one that is continually mentioned over and over in my posts, I now I am not spelling it wrong because it produces an automatic link most of the time. The name of the company that most commonly sells this product is the same as the name of the chemical itself. [http://www.monstersmokeshop.com/images/liquids-androstenone-msml.jpg](http://www.monstersmokeshop.com/images/liquids-androstenone-msml.jpg) (This is a pic not a sales link) Sine we have only discuess two word that start woith andro-, and one of those is referred to as Nols rather then by it’s chemical name, I thought it would be easy to figure out. ---
**Author:** ![DrZorters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@DrZorters](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DrZorters)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/7638/11 "2007-12-24T01:51:55Z")
That is commonly called APC for Women. It has about 1/5 as many [Pheromone molecules](https://pheromonelabs.com/) as products you will find here. DrZorters ---
**Author:** ![mewgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@mewgirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mewgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/7638/12 "2007-12-24T02:24:12Z")
I don’t know what APC is, but that is Androstenone (spelled correctly this time), and they somehow have made both a men’s and a women’s version. The company that makes that EXACT product as in the pic is Androstenone (as far as I can tell anyway). Edit: Wait, nevermind… I understand you. So, someone has actually figured out the name of the company? What does the ‘P’ and ‘C’ stand for? I know it’s not too high of a concentration 'cause I used a lot and never made anyone avoid me. But the concetration doesn’t mattter as I’m only using it once for now… I can apply more if the concentration is low. I can get that one for $20. But if I get that I’ll probably get another one too. Otherwise I’ll just get one which is EST. I think people stopped wanting to help me because I had too many questions and because I actually explained my situation as much as I could in response to other people’s messages. ☹. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 4:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/7638/13 "2007-12-24T16:25:08Z")
I don’t believe anyone is ever going to stop trying to help someone on this forum. Even when opinions vary to such extremes that arguing and bickering follows there will always be those willing to help. I’ve seen such instances where one user was banned for instilling hatred and making personal threats to some members and yet a lot of other members were still willing to try and help. I believe members no longer willing to help only if advice is given by numerous users all saying the same thing and then that advice is ignored. Varying opinions is not the same thing as ignoring so I would be suprised if other forum members stopped helping. Regardless I am still sending your GC out today. Happy holidays. ---
**Author:** ![mewgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@mewgirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mewgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2007, 4:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/7638/14 "2007-12-25T04:45:55Z")
If you’re talking specifically about my thread in parts of that I didn;t ignore anyone’s phero advice I just replied to it. That’s why I’m still trying to figure out exactly what to do. Thanks for the GC. ---
**Author:** ![DrZorters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@DrZorters](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DrZorters)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2007, 5:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/7638/15 "2007-12-25T05:31:11Z")
A is for Androstenone; P is for Pheromone and C is for Concentrate. I hope this helps clear up the confusion mew. DrZorters ---
**Author:** ![mewgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@mewgirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mewgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2007, 7:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/7638/16 "2007-12-25T07:28:25Z")
Nah, I figured out what you meant after I had started typing that message. At first I thought you did not understand my older message, then I realized that APC is the specific product in the picture for terms of this forum. Thanks for the clarification, though 🙂.