# Hello!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/8697>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [January 28, 2008, 12:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/8697 "2008-01-28T12:51:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![yakatuus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/85e7bf/32.png) [@yakatuus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yakatuus)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 12:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/8697/1 "2008-01-28T12:51:10Z")

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Hi my name is Mike I’m a 24 year old male from Pittsburgh. I found the site after doing research on [pheromones](https://a314.com/) after an unsuccessful night out (again). I am a big believer in the predictability of human behavior, especially when it comes to chemistry. Some nights I am just on and some I guess I am not. The past night I was out, I got an unnatural look from one girl that was enough to almost get me into a fight. It was so impolite that I actually made some comment about the fat slob she was with. Now I’ve never been that successful with women, probably about middle of the road, but I think that I’m pretty handsome and I’ve lost too many girls to shorter and fatter guys. My biggest problem is getting my foot in the door and I really think that helping my body’s natural chemistry could help me out. My body’s chemistry is not well known for knowing what is best for me anyway so cheers to this site and community and I think I just found my new favorite hobby!

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 12:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/8697/2 "2008-01-28T12:55:41Z")

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Welcome Mike.

A lot of folks here are into self-improvement as well as pheromones. You may get some good tips for enhancing human relations.

IH and io are great helpers with conversations.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 12:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/8697/3 "2008-01-28T12:57:42Z")

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Hello Welcome to the forum 🙂

Prehaps you come on to strong ? Do you feel your personality tends to intimidate ?

I am thinking more social and comfort pheromones for you. Instant Openness Instant Honesty will get people to open up and be more friendly. Instant Openness is more friendly chatty and Instant Honesty is more deep intimate type of conversation.

I also suggest Instant Shine. This draws people to you and makes them feel happy and confortable to be around you.

[Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) is good for calming a womens nerves of if they are bitchy to you.

If you have any questions just ask

Tisha

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**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 12:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/8697/4 "2008-01-28T12:59:48Z")

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Welcome to the forum Mike!

As Gwtw already said, IO and IH are great at enhancing conversations - so you don’t have to work that hard to keep it going. To raise some attention from the ladies you might want to add a spray or two of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/).

Have fun with the mones!  
bb

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**Author:** ![yakatuus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/85e7bf/32.png) [@yakatuus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yakatuus)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 1:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/8697/5 "2008-01-28T13:01:23Z")

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Thanks for the welcome. I really love this site and the info. Looks like I got turned onto the right thing at the right time.

Honestly I have noticed that a lot of my problem comes from trying to read a girl’s signals. I will get a smile and a look but generally as girls pass me on the street, not in a bar or on the dance floor. I think it is Ammo that is the “noticer”? Like I said, once I get a positive non verbal I am pretty ok.

How well do people find the instant openness and instant honesty work for others? I imagine they work great on yourself in conjunction with the placebo effect, but really can help to get that conversation going?

All in all I’m kind of a social wallflower, especially around strangers. I definitely have those two recommendations on my short list of things I’ll need to try.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 1:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/8697/6 "2008-01-28T13:09:27Z")

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> How well do people find the [instant openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and [instant honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) work for others? I imagine they work great on yourself in conjunction with the placebo effect, but really can help to get that conversation going?

Sometimes to well LOL There have been times I have needed to say "dude shut the F\_\_\_\_ Up " and I am extremely outgoing lol

IH is my favorite of the two. It not only makes people talk more about deeper more meaningful things but it creates a feeling of closeness.

IO is great but its more fun babble chatty. Used with the right products you can stear any of the socials into a sexual vibe.

You may want to read up on CTTM2 which is in pre release. Its a mix of both IO and IH.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![yakatuus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/85e7bf/32.png) [@yakatuus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yakatuus)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 1:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/8697/7 "2008-01-28T13:52:00Z")

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Haha yeah that caught my eye and I did read about it ^^. Great advice and help btw. I can definitely see situations in my life where I’d rather have that Instant Openness vs. Instant Honesty. I was also just thinking about getting A314 to start and not go too crazy mixing. Sounds like other people have already done the work for me in managing ratios of signals. I noticed that you tisha did not recommend Ammo? Too much Androstadienone or do you think its just due to my age?

I am definitely the type of guy who showers and scrubs hard before going out! Then I mask and cover with deodorants and cologne (\<3 aqua di gio) so this [Psychology Today: Scents and Sensibility](http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-20071228-000001.xml) article was -unbelievable- for me.

So I like the icebreaking qualities of the Instant Openness and the Instant Honesty, and I would kind of like to add a bit of sexual attraction to that mix. Any suggestions ? Ammo, Turn up the Heat? [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)? Hah I’m starting to get confused and I thought I had this straightened out in my head a second ago.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 3:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/8697/8 "2008-01-28T15:01:22Z")

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Ahhh You noticed that did you 😃 No I didnt suggest AMMO but I am not ruling it out for you. I am one of those odd people who have a good feel for a persons personality just from a few statements even over the internet. Its why I am the hostess LOL

I get the feeling you have something of a strong personality not exactly aggressive but far from passive. I think you have the ability to attract the girls but not always the warmth to keep them attracted (no offense) 😛

I think the socials will add a warmth and make people open up to you more. I usually dont want to suggest to many products because I know some people may not want to spend that much right away so I suggest what I feel will be most beneficial to them. After you see what the socials can do for you you should defiantly try AMMO to up the sexy and attraction.

**That being said… your Gift certificate will be in your email box in the next 24 to 48 hours 😃**

Tisha

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**Author:** ![yakatuus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/85e7bf/32.png) [@yakatuus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yakatuus)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 8:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/8697/9 "2008-01-28T20:29:03Z")

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Thanks for all the great advice and info. Yeah you hit the mark in that I’m looking for an exploratory purchase. Everything just seems so appealing. There is someone in particular I am looking to attract and I just don’t know what I like more. The effects of A314 seem really great and would augment my already considerable presence. I feel like a little bit of alpha phero would not only help me regain some of that leader mentality but demonstrate it in others too. Then again Ammo would be like, “Hey he’s got that little _je ne sais quoi_ about him.”

I guess I can just keep this thread going and if I don’t get much response I could create a new one.

This one particular girl is the girl that cuts my hair. I’ve had mixed reaction from her, but I can’t get to spend enough time with her to really seal the deal. I’m def. looking for a LTR. I guess the signals I’m getting from her is that I’m cool, not cool enough, attractive, not attractive enough. I think that the right phero mix could help me knock that wall down pretty fast as things already go well between us, I just do not see her that often.

But yeah the socials do sound really good and fun, but I’m not sure that its exactly the product I’m shopping for. I feel like this is just the beginning of a life long hobby so I don’t want to get turned off right away!! In any case I already think that a lot of my problems come from the fact that I am odorless or scent neutral when I go out or to social interactions.

A couple other questions I had were like, is there any blood work you can do to find out your own levels that you create naturally? If I am operating with a deficiency, I would like to know. Sometimes I feel like I’m lacking -none compared to the college students around me, being 24 around a bunch of 18 year old guys. So I doubt pure -none is a good idea but a -none based mix like [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) or Ammo might produce the results I want?

So those are pretty much my options. Try out the socials which might be the greatest effect, but maybe not for my directed goals. Try out the A314 which again would be to great effect and again, may or may not help me with this particular lady. Or finally try Turn Up the Heat or Ammo, make a hair appointment, and try again for that coffee date. Any thoughts would be appreciated!

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 9:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/8697/10 "2008-01-28T21:58:05Z")

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> A couple other questions I had were like, is there any blood work you can do to find out your own levels that you create naturally? If I am operating with a deficiency, I would like to know. Sometimes I feel like I’m lacking -none compared to the college students around me, being 24 around a bunch of 18 year old guys. So I doubt pure -none is a good idea but a -none based mix like [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) or [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) might produce the results I want?
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> So those are pretty much my options. Try out the socials which might be the greatest effect, but maybe not for my directed goals. Try out the A314 which again would be to great effect and again, may or may not help me with this particular lady. Or finally try [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) or [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), make a hair appointment, and try again for that coffee date. Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Well like I said I am not against Ammo for you and they sell the to-go bottles of it so you can try it out and see what you think. It is a sexy mix and is buffered by socials. TUTH is pure anone, no buffers, its sex in a bottle and comes on strong. Probably not the best bet for you.

People tend to think the socials are just that “social” They forget they cause attraction as well. When a person feels good and comfortable around you they think about you when your gone. Look forward to seeing you again. Its a important part of attraction so dont under estimate the effectiveness of the social products.

If you want to try a few by all means do. Get some ammo and Ishine and either IO or IH. 😉 You will have your GC soon and $5 sign up bonus so you can get the to-go ammo free and just buy the socials to go with it.

On the blood work, I am sure there are tests you can request from your doctor to test things like your hormone level which would be a indication of how much pheromonal output you have. There are not other skin tests I know of though that are done for this.

This does become a fun hobby for most who try it. You should see the size of my mone closet LOL

Tisha

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/8697/11 "2008-01-29T02:24:31Z")

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Welcome to the forum.

Listen to Tisha & GWTW. Both have been around long enough to know.

Ammo, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and the “socials” - IO, IH, and CTTM2 are usually the best choices for younger guys like yourself. TUTH is very raw and often backfires with young guys.

Anyways - welcome to the fourm and looking forward to hearing more from you.

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**Author:** ![yakatuus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/85e7bf/32.png) [@yakatuus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yakatuus)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 11:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello/8697/12 "2008-01-29T23:07:54Z")

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Thanks Tisha you’re the best. I agree [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) would be too much, probably best to save that for bedroom play. I think I’m gonna take that suggestion of the ammo on the go and maybe instant shine? I really want to try out that a314 like i said as it seems like it would enhance my social experience. I have anxiety related issues with my brain chemistry, and I was wondering which of the instants you find to have like the most calming and relaxing effect. Sounds to me like Instant Openness might be the right thing for me.
