# Help/Advice A314/IS **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 10, 2006, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565 "2006-08-10T22:07:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/21 "2006-08-11T04:00:25Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > You sound as if you already have most of the intended benefits A314 is designed to give… is it possible that you don’t notice the responses because they’re so similar to what you normally see that they’re simply too subtle? That’s what I think, so the only way I can test its effects at work is to find someone who disrespects me or dislikes me. Wait … as of this moment, I’ve thought of one and have decided that _ **He** _ is now my sole “test subject”. > [@catlord17](#): > > Instant Shine is more of a “you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone” influence for me. I use it on my forearms and neck, and sometimes directly on my face. I use 2-6 sprays at a time. I’m sorely tempted to try 6-8 sprays of IS but to drop the A314 to just two drops. Would it make any difference if i applied IS and A314 to the exact same points? (I haven’t tried that yet) Can you OD on [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)? What are the effects of an IS OD? ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 4:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/22 "2006-08-11T04:10:19Z")
> [@gabe1970](#): > > That’s what I think, so the only way I can test its effects at work is to find someone who disrespects me or dislikes me. Wait! I have taken the job of a contract worker who will be leaving shortly because of me, so … as of this moment, I’ve decided that _ **He** _ is now my sole “test subject”. > > I’m sorely tempted to try 6-8 sprays of IS but to drop the A314 to just two drops. Would it make any difference if i applied IS and A314 to the exact same points? (I haven’t tried that yet) Can you OD on Instant Shine? What are the effects of an IS OD? The reason I suggested trying A314 alone is that I have noticed that I get the best results from A314 by itself. Any IShine or Nol seems to really dilute the effects I got from A314. Maybe I shouldn’t say “diluted”, but they significantly altered the effects I got from A314. So try it alone and see what you get. ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 10:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/23 "2006-08-11T10:50:44Z")
Did that earlier this week. Noticed nothing. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 11:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/24 "2006-08-11T11:09:18Z")
I think I see your problem, Gabe. You’re expecting to notice your results instantly. You say you tried that earlier this week, but you know, most of us who love A314 had to spend a month or two “feeling out” A314 by itself to see what it was doing for us… maybeyou’re going too fast? ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 11:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/25 "2006-08-11T11:41:08Z")
That may be, but I’m also convinced I won’t notice any effects from A314 by itself because of the “elite” status of my facility within the healthcare industry. On the way out the door right now - I sprayed 4 sprays instant honesty in the crook of my arms/elbows, covered by 1 spray each arm of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), plus three drops of A314 on my neck covered by 2 MORE sprays of Instant Shine, and one spray of shine to my pubic hair and NO cologne/cover scent. Totals: 3 drops of A314, 4 Sprays of IH, 5 sprays of Instant Shine. ---
**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/26 "2006-08-11T17:07:17Z")
> [@gabe1970](#): > > Totals: 3 drops of A314, 4 Sprays of IH, 5 sprays of Instant Shine. I may be wrong, but that seems like alot, I would try: 2 drops A314 2 sprays IH 2,5 sprays of instant shine ---
**Author:** ![itwow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/itwow/32/1493_2.png) [@itwow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/itwow)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/27 "2006-08-11T17:57:11Z")
A314 & IH/m gives a serious vibe to most people, which is normal in your work environment. Try to assemble a contrasting environment to test the type of responses you could recognise. I’d go low on the dosage of A314 or IH/m. You’d want an effect that “rounds-off” the typical social responses you have, and not attentuate them. IShine/m gives a vibrant buzz to females. Try them on your peers. Maybe outside the office? Try the products individually to learn how to identify the correct responses. Including new products into a combo could complicate recognition of responses, when they occur. ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/28 "2006-08-11T22:27:24Z")
I had a normal, good day at work. Several female co-workers opened up to me, started becoming more friendly. This is normal socialization behavior which is to be expected , of course, and I don’t think it was attributable to pheromones. People were also very loud, boisterous in our small breakroom before work and during lunch. As “the new guy” I am still constantly being introduced and meeting people throughout our department, and have not had any unusual experiences. Only had one questionable “hit” today and it was negative, but also “within normal limits” as we say in the medical field. It took place during an emergency situation. ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 10:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/29 "2006-08-11T22:28:34Z")
> [@thomaslavoie](#): > > I may be wrong, but that seems like alot, I would try: > 2 drops A314 > 2 sprays IH > 2,5 sprays of instant shine I’m going to skip the A314 next week but go with your other doses. ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/30 "2006-08-11T22:31:36Z")
I’m probably going to try adding a drop of NPA and some more I-shine before going out tonight. Only going grocery shopping, though. Beginning to move this weekend. ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 12:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/31 "2006-08-12T00:58:47Z")
Well, THAT was a waste of perfectly good NPA. There was hardly anyone else there. And that thing about not shopping when you’re hungry? I proved THAT one to be true _again_. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 8:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/32 "2006-08-12T08:13:26Z")
What, I suggest one pheromone at a time, so you use them _all_ at once? lol I see how this works. Here’s my next suggestion. Try 8 sprays of CTTM2 to your neck. 😃 (But don’t try to drive! lol) People seem to really love that. You’ll get some good results by adding in 6 sprays of IShine, too. But just the CTTM2 at 8+ sprays is lots of fun once in a while. And people WILL act differently! lol ---
**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 12:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/33 "2006-08-12T12:08:54Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > What, I suggest one pheromone at a time, so you use them _all_ at once? lol I see how this works. > > Here’s my next suggestion. Try 8 sprays of CTTM2 to your neck. 😃 (But don’t try to drive! lol) People seem to really love that. You’ll get some good results by adding in 6 sprays of IShine, too. But just the CTTM2 at 8+ sprays is lots of fun once in a while. And people WILL act differently! lol Thats Extreme Mone-over man!😮 But effects guranteed!😃 ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 3:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/34 "2006-08-12T15:32:17Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > What, I suggest one pheromone at a time, so you use them _all_ at once? lol I see how this works. Given that A314/[Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)/IS/NPA are all of the pheromones I have to work with at the moment, (and all that I’m buying for the next month or two) and since their effects are not apparent at low doses or by themselves, and since I’m searching for obvious,apparent effects – then Hell Yeah, Cat - I’m using them all at once.😮 My experiences and thoughts so far: 1 drop of NPA gets obvious results, mostly negative, but some possible positive ones as far as being an attention getter with women and definitely a respect-generator concerning alpha males. Neither A314 or I-Shine affects ME in an obvious manner, and I don’t notice their apprently subtle effects on the co-workers I normally socialize with. 2+ sprays of I-Honesty makes me “Gabby” - if I spray it on my arms and then my hands go anywhere near my own face. _Babbling needlessly is not a good, fun thing for me._ Come Talk To Me Mix 2 does look like something I’d be _ **really** _ interested in playing with at work and afterwords. Please tell me what kind of effects i can look forward to at your doses, catlord.🙄 Once my finances are straight (end of September) I will probably buy that and a maybe a bottle of Ammunition for the weekend. Liquid Trust (Oxytocin) from Love Scent also looks both interesting and effective. Would it be redundant? **So does anyone have any suggestions for mega-dosing Instant Shine and/or Instant Honesty with or without NPA? I’m limiting my use of A314 AT WORK but might add some to my mix after hours.** * * * I’m also going off of most of my nutritional supplements this weekend in order to see how my body chemistry and reaction to Instant Shine is affected. I will still be on one fat-burner, but no pharmaceutical assistance, and I will be using only the following supplements. Biotest Hotrox (etiocholane, sclareolide, guggelsterone, caffeine) Plant Sterols - 2 Grams/day Flax Seed Oil and Omega-3 Fish Oils 3 grams/day Daily Vitamin/Mineral Tablet, taken with each meal instead of once daily B-Complex (1x/day) Vitamin E 400iu/day (Morning, pre-aerobics blood thinner) Vitamin C 3 grams/day (1g/per meal, antioxidant) (1) Post-Workout Protein Drink with Skim Milk (betwen lunch and dinner) The purpose of this “regimen” is burning fat and correcting my cholesterol ratios, maintaining mineral intake/output balance, balancing my hormones, protecting my cardiovascular system, and lubricating my joints. My diet is basic: Cheerios or Oat Meal with fruit, honey, and or cinnamon in Skim Milk Odwalla Superfood (Fruit/Veggie drink like V-8, but it tastes better) Low fat Cold Cuts on "Double Fiber’ wheat bread for lunch. I sometimes buy a soda for lunch and eat free pastries when they’re offered at work (1-3 x/week). Skinless Chicken Breasts cooked in a variety of spices, Fruits, and Honey for dinner. (I buy them as soon as they go on clearance due to their expiration dates, so my freezer is always stuffed with this low fat food) At least 1 cup of Mixed vegetables/ Vegetable Medley for dinner. Variety of rice-based dishes with dinner. I often use tons of garlic, saffran and cumin but limit my intake to 6 ounces/ about 150 calories per day. Tons of water. I “cheat” by eating Cinnamon or Chocolate Pop-Tarts when I want a snack.😃 Next month I’ll go back to the Herbal Testosterone Boosters and a pharmaceutical stimulant, and possibly a liquid diet (Meal replacements). I think by adding back all of these carbs and coming off of the stims, I probably won’t lose much weight this month but will feel a hell of a lot better and will not have any mood swings. (That and Instant Shine might havea chance to work on me and thus my co-workers) 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![attractor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@attractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/attractor)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 1:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/35 "2006-08-13T01:53:06Z")
If you want a combination that is really attention getting, but counters the negatives, the following works very well for me. NPA - 4-5 dabs ( or 1 drop) IFM - 2 - 3 sprays CTTM2 - 3 sprays IS - 3 sprays The NPA gets women horny and and the other pheromones make them comfortable. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 2:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/36 "2006-08-13T02:27:08Z")
> [@attractor](#): > > If you want a combination that is really attention getting, but counters the negatives, the following works very well for me. > NPA - 4-5 dabs ( or 1 drop) > IFM - 2 - 3 sprays > CTTM2 - 3 sprays > IS - 3 sprays I don’t have IFM or CTTM2 right now, but I’ll think about buying it. Kind of leaning towards a “chemistry set” since I already have a lot of chemistry and lab equipment to make “playing mad scientist” a little easier. How does this effect men that are around you when you wear it? I’m trying to avoid negative effects and thought IFM routinely makes other men react negatively. ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 2:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/37 "2006-08-13T02:35:44Z")
Up until now I’ve been avoiding having to get my hands dirty by mixing my own products. Is there an FAQ or other resource on mixing your own? I already have ethanol, DMSO, and a variety of alcohols available, as well as a centrifuge, beakers, vials, stoppers, vials, tubing – probably need to buy a pack of funnels. Do I need to use sterile technique or maintain a certain pH level? ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 7:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/38 "2006-08-13T07:36:30Z")
If you use 8+ sprays of CTTM2, you will experience about the same feeling you get from hitting the bong. Which is amusing, since I can’t hit bongs anymore since I have scarred lungs\*. But it makes you quite high. Or it does me anyway… for about 2 hours. And you turn into the life of the party, too. Everyone loves being around you and everyone’s having a great time talking and laughing. I had the entire post office practically partying down one day. Adding high doses of IShine makes you a real magnet. - Not that I ever smoked weed much. ---
**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 9:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/39 "2006-08-13T09:57:57Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > If you use 8+ sprays of CTTM2, you will experience about the same feeling you get from hitting the bong…it makes you quite high…you turn into the life of the party, too. 😮 No thank you! But thanks for the warning. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 11:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/40 "2006-08-13T11:01:26Z")
I don’t find it much more than an amusing fact, since I don’t particularly care for how spacey it makes me… but it’s very interesting to try once, and harmless as far as I can tell. I do like the “Life of the party” effect I get from 4 sprays CTTM2, though. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565.md?page=3)