# Help/Advice A314/IS

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [August 10, 2006, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565 "2006-08-10T22:07:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/5 "2006-08-10T23:26:14Z")

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As to product specifics:

Not everyone gets self-mood elevation from iShine. Smokers (there’s no significant VNO activity for Shine’s [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) mix) and those with low neurotransmitter levels generally don’t notice much.

Some responders, including me (as an initial responder to the effect), go into an outcome independent phase where our confidence overrules feedback we’re getting. i.e., we overlook data.  
In these cases, friends/wingman/pivots notice more about the actual effects than you.

Some of the non-self responders have noticed effects on others best. The user here that uses the forum name “M&M” noticing his server at a restaurant talking about suddenly feeling good for no reason at all.

Again, it’s simply a case of long term usage allowing you to better know the nature of the products, and their effects. At the same time, your social awareness will be growing. You grow social awanress muscles.

Over time, you can easily notice contrasts besides baseline social behavior, and the type of behavior you get w/ a certain product.

A314 is a compliance product that doesn’t provide “hits” of the type that people normally talk about. I don’t know what you’re “looking for”, but you won’t see it.

With A314, you _act_, and get a compliant _re_action. It’s like motor oil – a social lubricant that only works when the motor is running, and does nothing noticable if you don’t. It’s not the type of things that generates huge overts just by benig in someone’s vicinity.

Keep in mind that men who \*act \*are attractive, not men who receive or expect to receive. Women are wired to respond to men who initiate.

Men who _act_ively look for hits and aggressive flirting behavior from women are the least attractive men of all. That’s a feminine behavior. It’s a mousey thing for men to do.

You take yourself out of the game that way.

You still need to develop social awareness, but se sure to look very “lightly”, otherwise people will respond to your act of looking itself. The observer affecting the observed.

Make sure initiation and other male patterns consist of the bulk of your behavior, otherwise you’re like a guy using feminine social strategies. The wrong female social strategies. Like a guy wearing red pumps and lipstick… and not many women will find that attractive!

Which is not to say that you can’t take attraction strategies from women. You just have to be highly _selective_ over what you implement.

One of the best female attraction strategy to copy is their “hard to get” social schema. Both men and women are attracted to what is rare and unavailable.

You can also copy social strategies from women that come from them having excessive amounts of men available to them. Doing things that clearly transmit to women that you must be getting laid, otherwise you’d never do that (“neg hits” and the like), are powerful attraction behaviors right out of lady’s own rulebook.

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