# Help choosing which product to use?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-choosing-which-product-to-use/19034>\
**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [September 8, 2008, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-choosing-which-product-to-use/19034 "2008-09-08T00:02:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![jennifergail30](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@jennifergail30](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jennifergail30)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-choosing-which-product-to-use/19034/1 "2008-09-08T00:02:02Z")

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Hi all. I’m looking to get back with my ex- boyfriend, whom I have not seen in almost 3 years, and we were still attracted to each other then! I’m not usually a shy person but the thought of seeing him again makes me nervous. Which product(s) should I start with to help me along? I dont’ have any experience with [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) so someone please help!!!😕

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**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 1:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-choosing-which-product-to-use/19034/2 "2008-09-08T01:29:43Z")

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Hi Jennifer, I can’t give any female-specific advice, but Ishine is a unisex phero and this will give you a bit more confidence especially in the early stages when the “self-effects” are still strong, meaning that as you smell it on yourself you will be strongly affected by the confidence vibe it gives until you get used to it (at which point you should have experienced enough Ishine escapades to feel confident upon applying it _anyway_).  
Yeah, I’m a guy so past the gender-nonspecific advice I cannot help you: I’ll just say however that your situation is very interesting to me, because you haven’t seen the guy in almost 3 years. So you can reinvent yourself pretty much I’d guess. (There is someone in my life who I haven’t seen in almost 2 years, who I still carry a torch for. I think I was pretty awesome, cool, alpha, etc. last time I saw her as well, but I think I can reinvent myself in certain areas a bit, and retain the stuff I know she liked about me…)  
Then there’s the communication-phero question: IO or IH? Again these are both unisex, or Androtics will send you the right formulation for your sex at any rate. IO (lighthearted banter) vs. IH (deeper conversation)…  
If you can give some details as to your ex’s personality too, I’m sure it would help the women of this forum who can advise you about copulins, MX’s and things like that.

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**Author:** ![jennifergail30](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@jennifergail30](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jennifergail30)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2008, 2:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-choosing-which-product-to-use/19034/3 "2008-09-08T14:31:47Z")

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> [@ntk23](#):
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> Hi Jennifer, I can’t give any female-specific advice, but Instant Shine is a unisex phero and this will give you a bit more confidence especially in the early stages when the “self-effects” are still strong, meaning that as you smell it on yourself you will be strongly affected by the confidence vibe it gives until you get used to it (at which point you should have experienced enough Ishine escapades to feel confident upon applying it _anyway_).  
> Yeah, I’m a guy so past the gender-nonspecific advice I cannot help you: I’ll just say however that your situation is very interesting to me, because you haven’t seen the guy in almost 3 years. So you can reinvent yourself pretty much I’d guess. (There is someone in my life who I haven’t seen in almost 2 years, who I still carry a torch for. I think I was pretty awesome, cool, alpha, etc. last time I saw her as well, but I think I can reinvent myself in certain areas a bit, and retain the stuff I know she liked about me…)  
> Then there’s the communication-phero question: Instant Openness or Instant Honesty? Again these are both unisex, or Androtics will send you the right formulation for your sex at any rate. IO (lighthearted banter) vs. IH (deeper conversation)…  
> If you can give some details as to your ex’s personality too, I’m sure it would help the women of this forum who can advise you about copulins, MX’s and things like that.

His personality was very warm, very affectionate, very loving, kind, caring. He always made sure he showed me how he felt about me, no matter who was around. The one time I saw him 3 years ago is the only time I have seen him in 14 years. I still have really strong feelings for him and to be honest no one else I have ever dated made me feel the way that he did.

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**Author:** ![Takhisis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Takhisis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Takhisis)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 9:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-choosing-which-product-to-use/19034/4 "2008-09-09T09:39:46Z")

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Hi Jennifer! How long are you meeting him for? What image to do you want to project at this time?

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**Author:** ![copycat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/copycat/32/896_2.png) [@copycat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/copycat)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 8:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-choosing-which-product-to-use/19034/5 "2008-09-11T08:41:59Z")

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Hey girls!

Okay, help me out here.

What products have cops and TAH?

Man, if someone could come up with a grid, for those of us who are more visual…

Hint hint hint… I’m willing to help!

CopyCat

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**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 10:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-choosing-which-product-to-use/19034/6 "2008-09-11T10:47:30Z")

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MuskCloud has a nice grid [Phero color chart by MuskCloud: a visual guide to choosing mixes](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/phero-color-chart-by-muskcloud/1833) in mens stickies. Bond has a great grid [http://democomputer.com/pherograph/](http://democomputer.com/pherograph/) in his signature. These are both for men’s products but they might be able to help you out with the gal’s side. In fact MuskCloud said he was working on a women’s chart.

How 'bout it Musky?

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-choosing-which-product-to-use/19034/7 "2008-09-11T15:33:38Z")

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> [@copycat](#):
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> Hey girls!
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> Okay, help me out here.
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> What products have cops and TAH?
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> Man, if someone could come up with a grid, for those of us who are more visual…
> 
> Hint hint hint… I’m willing to help!
> 
> CopyCat

There are cops and TAH for sure in IS/B.

There are some cops in MX134 but I don’t know if it has TAH - probably not in large quantity since it’s a respect mix.

MX135 and MX235 have TAH at the center of a large bouquet of pheromones, but I’m not sure if it has cops - Tisha can probably answer that.

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**Author:** ![jennifergail30](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@jennifergail30](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jennifergail30)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 12:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-choosing-which-product-to-use/19034/8 "2008-09-14T00:48:52Z")

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> [@Takhisis](#):
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> Hi Jennifer! How long are you meeting him for? What image to do you want to project at this time?

I hope to be seeing him very often, and I am trying to arrange our first meeting so that it will lead to a date that night. I want to say to him “I want you” without using words. I have been told to use Instant Sexiness and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) to start with. I would like something that will help me attract him even more and also something that will help me with my shyness because I want to kiss him to help show how I feel about him. Any suggestions? I am typically not a shy person but he makes me weak in the knees and gives me butterflies in my stomach!🙂
