# Help for a friend **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 16, 2008, 3:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-for-a-friend/24005 "2008-12-16T15:32:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SCoupe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scoupe/32/2101_2.png) [@SCoupe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SCoupe)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-for-a-friend/24005/1 "2008-12-16T15:32:28Z")
I want to ask for help with a product or a mix for a female friend of mine to use in the work environment. What I’m after is something that will help her clients take her more seriously by helping to project a more professional air. I also suspect that something that can have a similar ‘self effect’ wouldn’t be a bad idea either. The problem is that she’s TOO good looking. One of those ladies who simply exudes sexy without even trying. While that’s a great position for her to be in, it ain’t always all that great when male clients aren’t seeing past the surface. That’s where I need the help. I’m just not that ‘up’ on the female products. ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-for-a-friend/24005/2 "2008-12-16T18:35:22Z")
Hey sweetie! you’re such a cutie for trying to help your friend out!!! Aww 🙂 For your lady friend there, I’d suggest her to get some instant shine (it’s a great mood uplifter during the stress times) or mx134 (the alpha female! makes people look at her like a leader) — but this one is out of stock at the moment I think. Since she’s super sexy already from what you’ve mentioned, I’d definately suggest her mx134 since it contains tal, – it’s a strong/confident signature and it’ll definately make people take her seriously. You _could_ get her tal in a low mcg and taa in a high mcg and ask her to pair it up together. I’ve tried this mix together and it’s fantastic, it makes me feel strong, makes people respect you, and at the same time feel in a “happy mood” (because of taa). I think taa is important cause too much tal can overwelm certain guys. Hope it helps! ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-for-a-friend/24005/3 "2008-12-16T18:49:29Z")
I’ll second Selva’s suggestion on A134. It is the women’s version of A314, and it does command respect. I read somewhere on the forum that other than TAL, it also contains _either_ Androstenone or Androsterone… both are strong male [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/). It also contains Androstenols. It should be reapplied after about 4 hours. If she is new to pheromone usage she should start with one product, low dose (1 or 2 sprays) and build up from there. This will give her a chance to see the effects of the product and to find her ultimate sweet spot with each one. Layering for affect should come after she has a handle on what each product does. Diane ---
**Author:** ![SCoupe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scoupe/32/2101_2.png) [@SCoupe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SCoupe)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 12:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-for-a-friend/24005/4 "2008-12-17T00:33:54Z")
> [@msselva](#): > > Hey sweetie! you’re such a cutie for trying to help your friend out!!! Aww 🙂 > > For your lady friend there, I’d suggest her to get some instant shine (it’s a great mood uplifter during the stress times) or mx134 (the alpha female! makes people look at her like a leader) — but this one is out of stock at the moment I think. > > Since she’s super sexy already from what you’ve mentioned, I’d definately suggest her mx134 since it contains tal, – it’s a strong/confident signature and it’ll definately make people take her seriously. > > You _could_ get her tal in a low mcg and taa in a high mcg and ask her to pair it up together. I’ve tried this mix together and it’s fantastic, it makes me feel strong, makes people respect you, and at the same time feel in a “happy mood” (because of taa). I think taa is important cause too much tal can overwelm certain guys. > > Hope it helps! MsS … if you were going to mix tal with taa what would the percentage of each be ? ---
**Author:** ![SCoupe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scoupe/32/2101_2.png) [@SCoupe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SCoupe)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 12:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-for-a-friend/24005/5 "2008-12-17T00:36:23Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > I’ll second Selva’s suggestion on A134. It is the women’s version of A314, and it does command respect. I read somewhere on the forum that other than TAL, it also contains _either_ Androstenone or Androsterone… both are strong male pheromones. It also contains Androstenols. It should be reapplied after about 4 hours. > > If she is new to pheromone usage she should start with one product, low dose (1 or 2 sprays) and build up from there. This will give her a chance to see the effects of the product and to find her ultimate sweet spot with each one. Layering for affect should come after she has a handle on what each product does. > > Diane Thanks D … after reading your challenge post I’m convinced you know what you’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-for-a-friend/24005/6 "2008-12-17T00:47:54Z")
> [@SCoupe](#): > > MsS … if you were going to mix tal with taa what would the percentage of each be ? I would get tal in 12.5mcg (use 1 spray), and taa in 25-37.5mcg (1 spray). Sorry, I’m not too good with math now to tell you the recipe in percentage, but I really suggest that she tries these pheros without literally mixing them both in a bottle without testing. Cause we’re all different, some people may have to use more, while others don’t, so it’s better that she tries it out, see what’s her sweet spot and how much dosage works out for her. I just told you how much I would use, it may sound like a small amount, because I’m using one or 2 sprays but the pheros are pretty concentrated specially the tal. You wouldn’t want her to od on tal (especially if it’s her first time wearing pheros) or it will give her a head ache, or make the men in the board room feel sooo overwelmed by her super strong signature and start avoiding her. If she feels like 1 spray of tal is not helping her she could increase the number of spray she uses. Hope it helps 🙂