# Help here on choosing the right ones **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 6, 2010, 2:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-here-on-choosing-the-right-ones/37539 "2010-04-06T02:55:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![andrw322](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@andrw322](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrw322)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 2:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-here-on-choosing-the-right-ones/37539/1 "2010-04-06T02:55:44Z")
I have been using IShine now for a couple of days,and it pretty much doesn’t work for me at all.I didn’t really notice any self affects from it and ofcourse no affect on others.I know some of you here might have bad experiences with IShine,which may mean I have a similar body chemistry with you guys.I am thinking on getting IO or IH,but don’t know what would work best here.I am looking for something that gets me in a great mood and be talkative(help my communication flow) and gets everyone around me feel like coming and talking with me as well. Both seem to have different strengths,so I don’t know what would work really for my age(20).Sorry if I am paranoid a bit here but when i got 1x IShine and didn’t get the effects,it was a bit disappointing for me.I am definitely open to other opinions(like CTTM2,ammo,a314,etc). ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 3:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-here-on-choosing-the-right-ones/37539/2 "2010-04-06T03:10:15Z")
If you want something that has an effect similar to what instant shine is supposed to do instant openness is the closest one. As for dosage strength, there’s two ways to look at it. One way to look at it is 2X and even 4X strength give more bang for the buck. Another way to look at it is it’s easier to spray regular strength 1,2,3 or 4 times than it is to get a 1/4 spray if you’re trying to control your dosages. ---
**Author:** ![Razorpowell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Razorpowell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Razorpowell)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 3:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-here-on-choosing-the-right-ones/37539/3 "2010-04-06T03:19:01Z")
I find that IShine gives me nothing by itself, but in a mix it sort of pulls everything together. IShine is like salt in a recipe. Have you ever cooked something and noticed it tastes sort of flat because you forgot that tiny bit of salt? Yet alone, you wouldn’t really notice that tiny pinch of salt. That’s IShine. It just makes everything come together a little bit more nicely for me. If you get any other mones, try it in a mix with them, and try them alone, and you will see that that is where instant shine… shines. crap. bad pun that I couldn’t get out of using. going to go beat myself for lack of literary integrity now. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-here-on-choosing-the-right-ones/37539/4 "2010-04-06T03:29:48Z")
I think instant shine is like bacon…I mean really name a dish that isn’t made better by adding bacon, salad, cheeseburgers, pizza, even filet mignon. Instant shine is like instant bacon, it just makes anything better. ---
**Author:** ![reddog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reddog/32/2091_2.png) [@reddog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/reddog)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-here-on-choosing-the-right-ones/37539/5 "2010-04-06T03:47:51Z")
Instant Shine and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) work to complement each other. What dose on IShine were you using? ---
**Author:** ![andrw322](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@andrw322](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrw322)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 3:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-here-on-choosing-the-right-ones/37539/6 "2010-04-06T03:52:15Z")
> [@reddog](#): > > Instant Shine and Instant Openness work to complement each other. What dose on IShine were you using? I followed the sweet spot thread accordingly,tested with 1 spray,2 sprays and lastly 4 sprays,didn’t get any self affects.It was 1x strength.