# Help I'm getting desparate! **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 20, 2008, 6:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-im-getting-desparate/12884 "2008-05-20T18:03:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![drdavid831](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@drdavid831](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/drdavid831)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 6:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-im-getting-desparate/12884/1 "2008-05-20T18:03:46Z")
Ladies I need a womens perspective, I posted this on the Men’s side. Can anyone help? I have quite a few of Androtics products, and have had alot of great hits; however, I started using pheros looking for something to turn my wife into a sexual animal. She is 53 and perimenopausal. Before the PM she was that animal and I want her back. The frustration is immence! She does respond to [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) very well, but the response is “just hold me”. I have , and have tried: [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), A314, [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), [AMMO](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), IS, [Turn Up The Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/), and [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/). [Turn Up The Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) I started with 2 spray up to 7 with “0” response from her. Maybe something to put in her massage lotion. I am a 47 y/0 good looking and fit Chiropractor, acupunturist, and massage therapist, you would think I could figure this out. ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-im-getting-desparate/12884/2 "2008-05-20T18:17:53Z")
If she’s not responding to TUTH and your relationship is otherwise good, she may need something to restore hormonal balance. HRT can be started even before periods cease. I’ve heard Chinese medicine and acupuncture can help as well. ---
**Author:** ![drdavid831](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@drdavid831](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/drdavid831)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2008, 6:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-im-getting-desparate/12884/3 "2008-05-20T18:27:30Z")
Absolutely right concerning the acupuncture and TCM. I do treat her for the PM symptoms very sucessfully. Her periods stopped almost a year ago. The decline in drive has been about 3 years. She states she enjoys sex when we have it. It just is not on her mind very often. I am typical, It is on my mind every other second. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2008, 12:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-im-getting-desparate/12884/4 "2008-05-23T12:51:01Z")
Oh god I dread menapause, I think about sex about 10 times a minute now and if I stop what the hell am I going to think about all the time to replace that LOL We must find a solution to this menapausal libido problem. preferably before I get to that stage LOL I do think she really should look into products for hormonal inbalance as Carrie suggested. Its slightly like being on the pill in some ways. When you take the pill ovulation stops and copulin production is said to diminish. Copulins arouse men but when I use them they make me feel sexy and sensual so prehaps if she used a copulin product it would help her libido. I am not saying it would definately work but its worth exploring. Sex is mental as well as physical and the smell of copulins could evoke certain emotions from her subconscious. Just a thought… Tisha