# Help me decide how much is too much **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 11, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-decide-how-much-is-too-much/19303 "2008-09-11T19:11:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-decide-how-much-is-too-much/19303/1 "2008-09-11T19:11:08Z")
hi all. need some info on mixing. i want to mix IFM, TUTH, Instant honesty and some cologne to carry in a 5ml togo. i know the none will last longer and the mix of TUTH and IFM will probably smell real bad. can you offer any advice on proportions in the mixture because i dont want to OD on the none but need to re-apply enougth for honesty and magic to keep working. the cologne i will be using is versace blue jeans, i love this cologne and the women do to. im 26 and the target age for the mix is 25-35. any direction woud be much appreciated. thanks ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-decide-how-much-is-too-much/19303/2 "2008-09-11T19:23:12Z")
If you haven’t figured out what ratios you want, then honestly, don’t mix them. To figure out the ratios you want, you need to know how much of each individual component you want, and how they al work together. Say you mix Turn Up The Heat, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), and Instant Honesty with your cologne. You’re mxing -none+additives, Androstadienone+additives, and a mix of a-Androstenol/b-Androstenol+additives. All those different ratios will effect your final ratios, if there are overlapping components. I would start by finding your sweetspot with each spray, then do combinations of two at a time to find your ratios. Then put together a larger combo with all the components involved and narrow down your ratios further. Finally, when you have a combo you think is worth mixing up, you have the ratios you need and can add in each component appropriately. Go ahead and mix if you want, but the ratios depend most on you. You can consider applying the TUTH at the beginning of the night, and leaving it at home. Mix up a 2-3:1 ratio of IH to IFM, I don’t know how strong your cologne is, or what it smells like, so I leave that to you. Take that mix and use it to refresh so you don’t need to worry about extra -none. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-decide-how-much-is-too-much/19303/3 "2008-09-11T19:25:03Z")
Mixing the commercial stuff is really not recommended for exactly the reason you mention. You could figure how much you want to reapply and using a small funnel just put that many sprays of each into your togo. When you reapply just use up the togo. Better to do that than to try to dilute with cologne. Also if you add the cologne to your little mix you’ll probably change the way the cologne smells. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-decide-how-much-is-too-much/19303/4 "2008-09-11T19:27:56Z")
I agree with Phya! If you try mixing pheros before you have your sweet spots down for each and know the proper amounts and ratios, you might very well end up with something that’s not going to work at all and just wasted a bunch of pheros. Once you’ve experimented with each and found the levels that work best for you, then you can try mixing them together. But, even then there’s no guarantee that they’re going to work as well as spplying seperately. I have wasted more than my fair share of pheros trying to make mixes that should have worked, but didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 7:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-decide-how-much-is-too-much/19303/5 "2008-09-11T19:40:20Z")
thanks for your advice, i have decided not to run before i can walk and not to mess with the pheros that already work, just have to sew a bigger pocket for all the togo bottles. atleast i now know who the experts are, expect lots of questions (only joking im not going to bombard you) thanks again and reps to you all. ---
**Author:** ![tfer15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfer15/32/711_2.png) [@tfer15](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfer15)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 3:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-decide-how-much-is-too-much/19303/6 "2008-09-12T03:15:34Z")
yeah i ax mark-in-dallas a lot of questions and he didnt seem to happy… USE THE SEARCH BUTTON!! lol i will ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 1:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-decide-how-much-is-too-much/19303/7 "2008-09-12T13:48:37Z")
> [@tfer15](#): > > yeah i ax mark-in-dallas a lot of questions and he didnt seem to happy… USE THE SEARCH BUTTON!! lol i will It’s not that I wasn’t happy, it’s just that I had already provided a link to a thread that would have answered your questions.