# Help me get started

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-get-started/898>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [November 16, 2006, 7:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-get-started/898 "2006-11-16T07:59:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![wisephero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9adbd/32.png) [@wisephero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wisephero)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2006, 7:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-get-started/898/1 "2006-11-16T07:59:11Z")

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Hi,

I am a 35 yo W male, I have always been interested in mones but never knew there was so much going on with experimentation until recently.

I have always dated attractive women and am good looking myself. I am thin but fit and the women in my life have always said that they love the way I smell. I have never worn anything other than deodorant in my life, I shower mostly every other day, sometimes every day. I have never been told that I smell bad in any way. I get a good scent going, really.

I thought some experimentation was in order with my recent discovery of this pheronominon. lol

I’m not looking to be all -none’d up, just looking to achieve more draw and to encourage the pretty girl who is staring at me to come closer and strike up a conversation. I miss alot of hits because of my own lack of perception sometimes, at least according to my friends.

Anyway, au natural has always worked for me before but, I am getting older.

I bought some [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) , IO , IFM and A314.

I usually go to clubs and bars with male and female friends, so the combo must be friendly to all and I won’t add any cologne type anything to the mix. Just not right for me. I would confuse the hell out of everyone who knows me.

Any suggestions using the mentioned stuff I bought for a first timer, under the given conditions.

-wIseguy

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**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2006, 12:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-get-started/898/2 "2006-11-16T12:29:09Z")

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Welcome wise,

Try 2 sprays of IO, 10-15 mins before you meet people. Add one more spray after 2 hours or so, and see how that go in term or bringing more light and fun aura to your evening.

Phero’s work differently from one person to another, but the above is more or less general, and the easiest to let you know what a single product does. Save mixes for later.

If you do the same with 1-2 drops of A314, and nomore that night, you may notice the effects turning a little serious, still garner interest, but not ‘hair down’ like IO.

You probably could try TUTH and/or Ammunition later, now that is more magnetic than the fun IO, if that is more interesting to you.

I’d suggest the TO-GO bottles, try one product at a time so you get a feel of what works, how much, etc.

Hope that helps, and have fun.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2006, 8:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-get-started/898/3 "2006-11-16T20:34:21Z")

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Try wearing this. I think you’ll like the results.

2 drops A314 (one on wrists, one on chin)  
2 sprays [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) (back of head)  
3 sprays Instant Shine (one on each forearm (or back of hand, if it’s cold), one to front of neck)  
2 sprays Instant Openness (One per forearm(or back of hand, if it’s cold))

Let this dry down for a few minutes before you spend time with anyone.

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**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 12:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-get-started/898/4 "2006-11-17T12:47:13Z")

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Hey Catlord do you use the double strength IO/IH/[Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) versions? I use a similar mix with the exception of the IFM. Just wondering if your default is single or double strength=)

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2006, 1:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-get-started/898/5 "2006-11-18T01:28:25Z")

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> [@Rob](#):
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> Hey Catlord do you se the double strength Instant Openness/Instant Honesty/IS versions? I use a similar mix with the exception of the Instant Female Magic. Just wondering if your default is single or double strength=)

Until very recently, I only used single strength. Just got my hands on a bottle of double strength IH. Haven’t used it yet though.

What results have you noticed from your mix?

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**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2006, 11:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-get-started/898/6 "2006-11-18T11:35:38Z")

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I’m currently using single strength [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and when I use IH in place of IO it gives off a more playful vibe than a regular playful Instant Shine vibe. I use normally 3 sprays of each and am using the double strength IH. Some married girl I know at work that is playful with words purposefully took a step back into me with her rear end and leaned back and turned her head and was all like “oops am I getting too close,” etc. Just joked with her with the work place sexual harrassment bit with a physical touch. My workplace doesn’t have alot of females in it though; I usually have to go to other areas of work between mine like at places at a smokepit or any sort of dining, bowling entertainment and bars.
