# Help me help my male friend! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 26, 2008, 2:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-help-my-male-friend/20317 "2008-09-26T02:01:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gogogopiggy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gogogopiggy/32/693_2.png) [@gogogopiggy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gogogopiggy)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 2:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-help-my-male-friend/20317/1 "2008-09-26T02:01:00Z")
Hello gents, I’ve got a question for you. I have this male friend, I’ll refer to him as T. T is a witty, charming, sensible, intelligent…boy. Yes, boy. Poor guy hasn’t has a lot of luck with the ladies (still a virgin :o) since he’s a little shy and a long, almost sister-brother type of relationship, stunted his confidence early. So, even though he’s got a wonderful personality and an extremely approachable face, he never gets noticed simply because he doesn’t go for it. I want to help him out without patronizing him. Say spraying him with [pheromones](https://a314.com/) but rather than telling him what it is, refer to it simply as a cologne I heard the ladies coo about. Here’s the question: What male pheromone would you suggest for this situation? And! If he comes back to me with favorable results, do I tell him that was a trick and it was just his own confidence that allowed that to happen or just let him know about pheromones and how they can help him out? (Probably the latter.) Thanks!! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 3:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-help-my-male-friend/20317/2 "2008-09-26T03:05:28Z")
I think ammo and instant openness would be a great combination for this! ---
**Author:** ![XDragonX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/6f9a4e/32.png) [@XDragonX](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XDragonX)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 3:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-help-my-male-friend/20317/3 "2008-09-26T03:39:35Z")
Sorry but I’m not sure pheros will be enough for him. What he needs is a personality makeover, teach him to do things such as to look into a woman’s eyes with a deep caring gaze. Teach him to touch woman whenever he talks and always touch them for a second too long to give that sense of tension, teach him to learn what his specific girl is looking for and become that etc. After all that then give him some ammo to improve his chances to get out of the friend vibe but if you’re shy and you drench yourself in Turn Up The Heat nothing’s gonna happen except that you’ll reak. Trust me I used to be a “nice guy” brotherly fellow and I had to learn all that shit, nothing can make up for personality. ---
**Author:** ![gogogopiggy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gogogopiggy/32/693_2.png) [@gogogopiggy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gogogopiggy)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-help-my-male-friend/20317/4 "2008-09-26T03:44:23Z")
Oh yes, haha I realize that, I think he just needs a bit of a step in the right direction. Even if it’s small, like getting noticed more often. ---
**Author:** ![XDragonX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/6f9a4e/32.png) [@XDragonX](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XDragonX)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 3:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-help-my-male-friend/20317/5 "2008-09-26T03:48:12Z")
If he’s already the brotherly friendly guy, then he won’t have trouble socializing really. I’d say his big probably is getting the girl to think of him sexually so if u wanna play it safe get him some ammo 3 sprays or if you wanna be risque grab TUTH and give him 3-4 shots of that which’ll basically make him seem like he is much more manly and sexual. I don’t suggest instant female magic or instant honesty as he’s probably good at making women comfortable and developing rapport. ---
**Author:** ![Maxticy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/59ef9b/32.png) [@Maxticy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maxticy)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 4:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-help-my-male-friend/20317/6 "2008-09-26T04:05:12Z")
It may also not be a bad idea to go with some [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), just to give him a little push in the direction of confidence. If things seem to work with the pheromones, have him go out without them on…if it seems like a step backwards, let him know about them. That’s what I would do. ---
**Author:** ![XDragonX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/6f9a4e/32.png) [@XDragonX](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XDragonX)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 4:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-help-my-male-friend/20317/7 "2008-09-26T04:13:36Z")
I’m not sure, i think it’s better to not tell him because some guys act weird when they know about and are always thinking about the pheros at first instead of acting as they should. I always thought about the pheros when I first used them but it might just be me ---
**Author:** ![gogogopiggy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gogogopiggy/32/693_2.png) [@gogogopiggy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gogogopiggy)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 4:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-help-my-male-friend/20317/8 "2008-09-26T04:38:59Z")
Wow! Thanks for the quick input guys, this helps a lot! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Maxticy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/59ef9b/32.png) [@Maxticy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maxticy)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 4:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-help-my-male-friend/20317/9 "2008-09-26T04:40:16Z")
Thats why I think that it would be a pretty good idea to have him go out without pheros first, to see if his confidence will be enough. I hear what you’re saying about the thinking with the pheros…whenever I see a possible hit, I’m always sitting there thinking if its me or the pheros and not reacting to it. Rookie mistake…then again…today was just my first day of wearing [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). ---
**Author:** ![magicj76](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/magicj76/32/1858_2.png) [@magicj76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magicj76)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 7:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-help-my-male-friend/20317/10 "2008-09-26T07:46:52Z")
I have a friend who is exactly the same. Brother-friendly in the “negative” sense. I think I see what you mean ; “let’s be just friends, boy”. And many boys were the same some years ago (I was). I totally agree with the fact that a simple step can lead far. Change your way of 1 degree and go on to reach another completely different destination. So… what about [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and Openness to start with ? And don’t tell him about the pheros… IF HE ASKS tell him you just heard the scent was considered as attractive and that of course his personality did all the work ! Or go out with him, and when he feels confident, anchor that state for him to reproduce it later. (uhm, talking NLP and anchoring!) Anyway, i’d say IS and IO and SECRET. ---
**Author:** ![iamstretchypanda](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/iamstretchypanda/32/1228_2.png) [@iamstretchypanda](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/iamstretchypanda)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 1:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-help-my-male-friend/20317/11 "2008-09-26T13:56:25Z")
You probably already have a bottle of instant openness or instant shine. I’d just give him a few sprays of that. If you get good results then try ammo. Definitely not turn up the heat because you have to be getting heat to turn it up. My favorite meet new people mix is 5 sprays of instant shine 2x and 3 sprays of instant honesty 2x.