# help me please... how to start? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 19, 2008, 5:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-please-how-to-start/21656 "2008-10-19T05:09:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jholguin17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@jholguin17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jholguin17)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 5:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-please-how-to-start/21656/1 "2008-10-19T05:09:47Z")
Hello all, I just got my phero products this last thursday… everyhting came perfectly and very fast shipping, it was very good. they only thing bad is that my ammunition bottle seems to be elaking in the nozzle. i hope its not broken or anything..anyway i have the following products Ammo (big bottle) I. Shine 1x TOGO I. Shine 2x TOGO (gift) [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) TOGO Turn Up The Heat TOGO (gift) the first time I used it was to go to school on friday. I used like 2 sprays of ammo in my neck. 2 sprays of IS 1x on my wrists, and 2 sprays of instant female magic in the back of my neck. I didnt see any clear results or anything. the only thing i perceived was this very good friend of mine who has a bf staring at me a little in a not very usual way. apart from that i didnt notice anything else. I have no clue on how much, where, when to apply the products. from what i have what would you recommend the best?? i dont know where to start. thanks a lot btw i am 21, a senior in university. I am very friendly, people say i am very cute, nice, easy going… i would like to use the products to get more girls in general. also to make me more social to everyone else. any suggestions? i would really appreciate it. jose ---
**Author:** ![phillykid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@phillykid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phillykid)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 7:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-please-how-to-start/21656/2 "2008-10-19T07:55:05Z")
well.. depending on your purpose (since i am largely into social mones), you would want to have different applications. but i think i benefited a lot by just using one type of product for at least 3 days (with possibly varying dosage) to see its effect before mixing. i believe it takes a while for your body to adjust to the mones and for the people around you to adjust to it. anyway, if you are into the social things, i will recommend you starting out with just IS 1x/2x, about 2/4/6 sprays of the 1x, and see if you notice any self- and other-effect. IS can have a strong effect on some people (like me). then you might want to try IFM, though you might need a cover scent. ammo works but it will add -none into the mix. then you can try mix everything together, like you did, but you will have a much better understanding of how each product work on you. alternatively, you could start off by mixing (like i and probably a lot of newbies did)… and possibly ODing… before seeing the light and start to break them down product by product… just my 2 cents from using mones so far. good luck 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 3:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-please-how-to-start/21656/3 "2008-10-19T15:50:30Z")
Hey J, Read the stickies at the top of the forum. The best advice is to use one product, and one product only, until you find your best dosage(‘sweet spot’), observe the effects on yourself and others (It’s not just what you get from the bottle, it’s the stuff from the bottle plus your own natural chemistry, so it’s different for everybody.), and get your attitudes and behavior congruent with your chemistry. That’s pretty much the same advice everybody get’s in the beginning. The first thing that pretty much everybody does is to hose themselves down with everything they have. Now that you’ve got that out of the way… Pick the product you are most interested in. Start with 2 sprays the first day. Be patient. Pay attention. Shower, start with a clean slate. Next day try 3. Take notes. Make it a research project. (that’s why we can get so much experimental stuff, we’re the beta testers) Then you’ll come back here all wide eyed, going OMG! This stuff is a barrel of laughs. Read the stickies. ---
**Author:** ![jholguin17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@jholguin17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jholguin17)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 3:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-me-please-how-to-start/21656/4 "2008-10-19T15:54:24Z")
thanks a lot guys! i am going to start tomorrow. ill try ammo by itself a few days. then IS, then IFM and then turn up the heat… you will se me back here in a week or 2 with all my results!.. i just have one more question. What are the best application points? chest, hands. neck, etc?? or should i apply them to my clothes, hair… i am kind of lost in that. thank you