# Help needed :(  (MX135 + CTTM)

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**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 18, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-needed-mx135-cttm/29979 "2009-06-18T17:30:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sinned\_love](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Sinned\_love](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sinned_love)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-needed-mx135-cttm/29979/1 "2009-06-18T17:30:30Z")

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I have been using these 2 products for quite a while (abt 2 months) but they don’t seem to work on me. Usually , i spray 3 sprays for each product onto my neck and chest area. No obvious effects so far

I am usually a quiet person and I really need to get more attention from people around me (especially guys) \*ahem.  
Can you girls recommend something to me?🙄

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**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-needed-mx135-cttm/29979/2 "2009-06-18T17:46:52Z")

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Hmm.. I’m seriously quiet normally baad social anxiety. cttm2 takes about 3 sprays to get self effects on me and in areas that I get hit by it Ie chest sides of neck wrists.I’ve hit as much as 8 sprays on some nights.

Mx135 seems to work better as a back of neck application for me.

I’m having an absolute blast with P78 right now it brings out the me I am with tight friends but more out in the open. Simply put it lets me be me and is a very happy contenting molecule. 0 anxiety with this one.

Is/a Self-confidence but a bit on the bitchy side so careful not to overdo it with that one.

Another thing oddly thats worked is one spray of ammo somewhere I can sniff at if I get upset If i wear more than two sprays I get a bit big for my brtiches and end up with friction with guys but one to two is ok boosts my confidence and doesnt seem to phase guys. Three and up my boyfriend gets pissy too much boy sig I think dunno.

I’d say try the mx 135 with a few sprays of p78. P78 iss kind of like cttm2 in that people get bubbly around it but it has a smoother less manic feel to it.Worse come to worst you’ll get good positive attention in general w\ this blend and be pretty happy.

You do need to initiate with p78 I’ve found but there’s not so much anxiety or inhibition.It knocks down a lot of walls.