# Help out a noob... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 23, 2008, 9:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-out-a-noob/20113 "2008-09-23T09:29:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 9:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-out-a-noob/20113/21 "2008-09-25T09:33:53Z")
crazy coincidence here BBDA, there is an older topic in the Parfum section detailing another users seriously negative reaction to continued anti-perspirant use. it’s at the top now and easy to find. ---
**Author:** ![BadBoysDriveAudi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/badboysdriveaudi/32/2292_2.png) [@BadBoysDriveAudi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BadBoysDriveAudi)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 9:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-out-a-noob/20113/22 "2008-09-25T09:34:23Z")
That’s certainly something to keep tabs on, but I sweated like this before I was on creatine, so I can’t logically point to creatine suppliments being the issue. In colder (and drier!) climates, I’m able to go for a small amount of time before I start to clam up under the arms, but before long, I’ll start to notice it. In warmer and more humid climates, I begin to sweat after being outside for five minutes. That’s my love/hate relationship with Miami. Because of this, I keep myself cleanly shaven. Hair traps smell and it also prevents me from applying AP sparingly to the skin. A side effect is that girls really dig it. Who am I to argue? ---
**Author:** ![Klimentiy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/klimentiy/32/306_2.png) [@Klimentiy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Klimentiy)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 6:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-out-a-noob/20113/23 "2008-09-25T18:16:19Z")
> [@BadBoysDriveAudi](#): > > Wow! I simply must use anti-perspirant or I will begin sweating and stinking. My body is simply predisposed to sweating under the arms. My saving grace is the clinical strength products now that you can get over the counter. > > The bad thing about all of this is that I buy A LOT of laundry stain remover (shout!, etc) for my clothing. I have to wash all shirts, polos and tees in warm water and spray the stain remover at the pits in order to get the anti-perspirant out of the clothing; otherwise it’ll dry and set-in in the dryer. That means I wear tees under my dress shirts always, and constantly throw away tees when they start to get a yellow stain under the arms. > > I also have a fleet of worn dress shirts dedicated to wear under sweaters (not about to wear a tee, shirt and then a sweater). Once the dress shirts reach a certain point, I chuck 'em. > > My clothing bill is insane. Scratch that…my closet is INSANE! But whadda ya gonna do - not wear clothes? I can only imagine the chaos I’d cause doing something like that. It’s bad enough if I wear a fitted or stretch tee to work on Fridays. 😛 That’s why i don’t wear white tee’s!! 😃 Just kidding. I know what you are saying though. I toss a lot of shirts because of the stains they get from antiperspirant ---
**Author:** ![Klimentiy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/klimentiy/32/306_2.png) [@Klimentiy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Klimentiy)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-out-a-noob/20113/24 "2008-09-25T18:25:14Z")
I take 3 forms of creatine, NO supplements, and a high protein/aminos diet, also drink over a gallon of water a day to flush out whatever my body didn’t use. There is no way i could go without antiperspirant. I’ve tried using unscented ones, they don’t seem to work so well… P.S i just received my order! Thank you April (whoever you are). It felt good to actually see a real hand writing on the order 🙂 Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![BadBoysDriveAudi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/badboysdriveaudi/32/2292_2.png) [@BadBoysDriveAudi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BadBoysDriveAudi)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 7:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-out-a-noob/20113/25 "2008-09-25T19:24:25Z")
> [@Klimentiy](#): > > That’s why i don’t wear white tee’s!! 😃 Just kidding. I know what you are saying though. I toss a lot of shirts because of the stains they get from antiperspirant Plain white undergarments are the cheapest items to toss and repurchase, so they’re a staple in my wardrobe. Any designer tees that are expensive enough need to have color so I don’t stain them (or have it be noticeable). That way if I decide to put on an Express or BR tee underneath a shirt or polo, it isn’t so bad. It’s sickening, but clothing is a religion for me. It’s alright though…when girls call me a metro, I generally tell them that they like it because they keep looking over at me. Obviously, I’m not hurting your eyes if you keep staring, right? When guys call me a metro, I just point out that they’re haters and wish they had the same attention. That’s usually enough to stop the teasing in its tracks. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Klimentiy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/klimentiy/32/306_2.png) [@Klimentiy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Klimentiy)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2008, 8:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-out-a-noob/20113/26 "2008-09-25T20:13:44Z")
> [@BadBoysDriveAudi](#): > > Plain white undergarments are the cheapest items to toss and repurchase, so they’re a staple in my wardrobe. Any designer tees that are expensive enough need to have color so I don’t stain them (or have it be noticeable). That way if I decide to put on an Express or BR tee underneath a shirt or polo, it isn’t so bad. > > It’s sickening, but clothing is a religion for me. It’s alright though…when girls call me a metro, I generally tell them that they like it because they keep looking over at me. Obviously, I’m not hurting your eyes if you keep staring, right? > > When guys call me a metro, I just point out that they’re haters and wish they had the same attention. That’s usually enough to stop the teasing in its tracks. 🆒 I remember being called a metro in high school 😃 I take it you shave your entire body? Well i go to the tanners and shave and what not, but i do bodybuilding… Get seriously into weight lifting and you will transition in people’s eyes from a metro into a bodybuilder 😛 You get to keep same habits but gain rank among younger women. ---
**Author:** ![BadBoysDriveAudi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/badboysdriveaudi/32/2292_2.png) [@BadBoysDriveAudi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BadBoysDriveAudi)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-out-a-noob/20113/27 "2008-09-26T21:15:26Z")
> [@Klimentiy](#): > > I remember being called a metro in high school 😃 I take it you shave your entire body? Well i go to the tanners and shave and what not, but i do bodybuilding… Get seriously into weight lifting and you will transition in people’s eyes from a metro into a bodybuilder 😛 You get to keep same habits but gain rank among younger women. I don’t shave everywhere; just the face, armpit and private area. I don’t have to shave my chest or back (thankfully), and arms and legs are actually pretty good. I’m not a swimmer so I don’t have to worry about all of that. I lift weights every other day, so I think girls are already happy with the body. I think the rank goes up because because they notice that I even take care of the particulars. Funny thing is that I’m getting hits for more hair…on top of my head. I’m starting a fro…just for the fun of it. It’s certainly different than my close fade that’s been my trademark. Putting on helmets is now a chore and I can’t even wear my favorite ball caps anymore. But I get looks and comments from that alone; then add in the pheromones, and I’m the talk of the club, gym, whatever. ---
**Author:** ![lukester19](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lukester19/32/1953_2.png) [@lukester19](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lukester19)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 9:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-out-a-noob/20113/28 "2008-09-26T21:28:07Z")
I cant go with out working out. If i dont, i feel like i let myself down. My gains also start diminishing so i keep it a habit. Try to do it 5 days a week. If you really want attention working out will give you that. The results and the health. It is all good. ---
**Author:** ![BadBoysDriveAudi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/badboysdriveaudi/32/2292_2.png) [@BadBoysDriveAudi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BadBoysDriveAudi)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-out-a-noob/20113/29 "2008-09-26T21:32:53Z")
> [@lukester19](#): > > I cant go with out working out. If i dont, i feel like i let myself down. My gains also start diminishing so i keep it a habit. Try to do it 5 days a week. > If you really want attention working out will give you that. The results and the health. It is all good. I hear you on that one; I’ll start to feel depressed and in need of a release if I don’t hit the weights. In order to do five days, you must be segmenting upper and lower body on different days, huh? I can usually lift lower body on consecutive days, but upper body is way too sore to do that. As it stands, I already have to work at flys two days out after an extremely hard lift day. Being sore sucks when you’re lifting. Being sore at other times brings a smile to my face because I know my body’s healing for the better. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![lukester19](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lukester19/32/1953_2.png) [@lukester19](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lukester19)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 9:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-out-a-noob/20113/30 "2008-09-26T21:41:30Z")
Yup i do separate. I don’t get that sore anymore because i get plateaus more often and it kind of slows down hypertrophy. I am currently bulking up a bit to maybe gain 10 pounds before the end of the year than i will do a long cut to lower my body fat for the summer. Rest is very important also and some people tell me to go 4 times a week but its a habbit what can i do. Feel good after and actually can study better. If i get to my goals in the gym the same thing happens in academics. Currently i separate my workouts in to back and bicep chest and triceps shoulder and legs with calf’s But to gain muscle you need to have more calories coming in and keep your workouts heavy. I always hear of people asking why am i not gaining any muscle mass. Maybe eat more and the weightlifting will be easier. ---
**Author:** ![BadBoysDriveAudi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/badboysdriveaudi/32/2292_2.png) [@BadBoysDriveAudi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BadBoysDriveAudi)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 9:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-out-a-noob/20113/31 "2008-09-26T21:49:44Z")
> [@lukester19](#): > > Maybe eat more and the weightlifting will be easier. Coach continues to hammer “getting the body is 80% nutrition and 20% work”. Kinda cheezy but it’s true. You can work until you’re blue in the face; if you don’t have the right nutrients (or enough calories…period), you won’t achieve that desired chizzled look. ---
**Author:** ![Klimentiy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/klimentiy/32/306_2.png) [@Klimentiy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Klimentiy)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-out-a-noob/20113/32 "2008-09-27T02:09:27Z")
> [@lukester19](#): > > I cant go with out working out. If i dont, i feel like i let myself down. My gains also start diminishing so i keep it a habit. Try to do it 5 days a week. > If you really want attention working out will give you that. The results and the health. It is all good. The attention yes, health… not so sure… may be more resistance to viruses and common cold, but body wise you age faster. ---
**Author:** ![Klimentiy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/klimentiy/32/306_2.png) [@Klimentiy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Klimentiy)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-out-a-noob/20113/33 "2008-09-27T02:12:38Z")
> [@lukester19](#): > > Yup i do separate. I don’t get that sore anymore because i get plateaus more often and it kind of slows down hypertrophy. I am currently bulking up a bit to maybe gain 10 pounds before the end of the year than i will do a long cut to lower my body fat for the summer. Rest is very important also and some people tell me to go 4 times a week but its a habbit what can i do. Feel good after and actually can study better. If i get to my goals in the gym the same thing happens in academics. > > Currently i separate my workouts in to > > back and bicep > chest and triceps > shoulder and legs with calf’s > > But to gain muscle you need to have more calories coming in and keep your workouts heavy. I always hear of people asking why am i not gaining any muscle mass. Maybe eat more and the weightlifting will be easier. It is better to go real heavy legs on their own and then taking a day off. Very good natural test booster. ---
**Author:** ![CdubFTW](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cdubftw/32/2463_2.png) [@CdubFTW](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CdubFTW)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 3:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-out-a-noob/20113/34 "2008-09-27T03:08:45Z")
> [@Klimentiy](#): > > I’m getting Ammo right now. > Also, would it be a good idea to also get Turn Up the Heat and mix it with ammo in a one on one situation, for example: watching a movie over at her house. Or ammo would be enough? Just spray it 3-4 times may be? Only if you know her..that combo is used in the clubs/bars alot(read some threads)..Ive dont it and had 3 women(30-34yr old) follow me to the bar, and I ended up introducing all of em to each other sicne it was an akward moment, haha.. But then again I like older women, and I’m 29, so I didnt OD, but you might.. So if you do go w/ that combo, 1 spray of TUTH(maybe a 1/2 spray to be safe), and 2 sprays of Ammo and you’re set.. You wont need to reapply, and you’;ll even be able to smell them welll into the morning, so if you stay till then?? CHA CHING..go at it again. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![BadBoysDriveAudi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/badboysdriveaudi/32/2292_2.png) [@BadBoysDriveAudi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BadBoysDriveAudi)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 4:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-out-a-noob/20113/35 "2008-09-27T04:22:57Z")
> [@Klimentiy](#): > > The attention yes, health… not so sure… may be more resistance to viruses and common cold, but body wise you age faster. That’s always going to be a debatable topic. I’ve seen 50 year olds that look exceptionally well and pysically outperform 30 year olds. As for fighting off viruses and common cold, I don’t think that one’s up for debate; everyone knows that to be true. I generally don’t get sick, but when I do, it’s really nasty and takes me out for a few days until my body gets rid of the intrusion. I’d rather be down for two or three days ever other year than to get sick regularly. Flu shot? What’s that? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Klimentiy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/klimentiy/32/306_2.png) [@Klimentiy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Klimentiy)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-out-a-noob/20113/36 "2008-09-28T06:09:24Z")
> [@BadBoysDriveAudi](#): > > That’s always going to be a debatable topic. I’ve seen 50 year olds that look exceptionally well and pysically outperform 30 year olds. > > As for fighting off viruses and common cold, I don’t think that one’s up for debate; everyone knows that to be true. I generally don’t get sick, but when I do, it’s really nasty and takes me out for a few days until my body gets rid of the intrusion. > > I’d rather be down for two or three days ever other year than to get sick regularly. Flu shot? What’s that? 😛 A lot of strain on kidneys/liver/digestive tract/joints etc. heavy lifting has to be accompanied with heavy eating and supplementation. Eating 6-7 times a day and drinking over a gallon of water is harsh on the organs. ---
**Author:** ![Klimentiy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/klimentiy/32/306_2.png) [@Klimentiy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Klimentiy)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 6:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-out-a-noob/20113/37 "2008-09-28T06:19:37Z")
Btw, i tried the combo of 2 sprays of Ammo to the chest and neck and 3 sprays of Shine to the hair and back of the neck. Quite a combination for the first timer i have to say 😃 Had 2 girls pretty much attack me… Both got boyfriends, one even lives with her man. Both were extremely attracted to me sexually. The more intoxicated one asked me if i will go out with her and gave me a kiss. A little awkward situation considering her man is a friend of mine. Seemed as if i got attention from the “sluttier” girl types, the younger ones were intimidated somehow… Very interesting. May be i produce a lot of -none naturally already? [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-out-a-noob/20113.md?page=1)