# Help Re Copulins **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 15, 2011, 12:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-re-copulins/52844 "2011-10-15T12:51:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sifaradia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@sifaradia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sifaradia)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2011, 12:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-re-copulins/52844/1 "2011-10-15T12:51:43Z")
Hello Ladies, I have a question about copulins. I found this forum a little while ago and will place my order as soon as I get stateside for some IS and IH, but not sure about what to get regarding sexual behaviour. Of course there’s the [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/), but through more research, I’ve discovered copulins. I know there’s much information in this forum on the subject, but a lot of the postings seem to be a couple years old, so I’m not sure how applicable it still is in terms of specific products mentioned. So my first question is - and I’m going to use frank and open language here so I hope I don’t offend anyone’s sensibilities - You know how you can generally identify men as - he’s an ass man (because he likes asses) or no, he’s a boob man, etc.? Well, if a man is really neither but his favourite anatomical part of the female body is the vulva, what it looks like, feels like and especially how it _smells,_ can I infer from this that he will be especially affected by copulins? Secondly, ok so I know that everyone’s chemistry is unique, and people will react differently to the same product, but I really want to get a copulin based product for myself and add to the IS and IH combo. I guess what I am asking for is some informed and experienced advice. There is a thread on this forum that starts with a poll, but like I wrote above, looks like it’s from 2009. Also, I’m not sure where Instant Sexiness fits in all this because as far as I see, it does not contain copulins, unless I missed something. FYI - I understand that copulins need cover scents, so here’s a list of the perfumes I use and tend to prefer - light, floral/fruity: L’eau D’Issey Happy Escape Cool Water (for women) Thanks for your help! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2011, 8:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-re-copulins/52844/2 "2011-10-16T08:26:22Z")
> [@](#): > > So my first question is - and I’m going to use frank and open language here so I hope I don’t offend anyone’s sensibilities - You know how you can generally identify men as - he’s an ass man (because he likes asses) or no, he’s a boob man, etc.? Well, if a man is really neither but his favourite anatomical part of the female body is the vulva, what it looks like, feels like and especially how it _smells,_ can I infer from this that he will be especially affected by copulins? He may be affected slightly more but it tends to work on most men whether or not they are boob men, ass men or vulva men. How he takes action on the feelings it will arouse will depend more on his personality and his availability though so its not a guarantee. > [@](#): > > I guess what I am asking for is some informed and experienced advice. There is not a lot of choices out there for good effective copulins. EOW from Love scent is what most women use. You layer it, dont mix it in your bottles of other mones until you have lots of experience with it. You can cover it with whatever you like. The trick is dry down time. First apply your copulins. Just like with other mones you will have to test for dosage. Let it dry down for about 10 to 15 minutes then cover with your scent choice. Most of the time this prevents heavy bleed through of the smell leaving you will a slightly musky scent. Cops in my opinion work both on a molecular level and by scent recognition so you sort of want that slight musk scent. [Instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) used to have a trace of copulins in it. Thats part of what made it sexy. Its not a bad product now, it still produces basic attraction. You can wear a little cops under it to give it a nice sexy kick. Its actually good in a way to have the 100% pure bottle of copulins and to just layer them. It gives you more versatility with your other mones so you can layer cops only when your interested in causing an more sexual attraction response and wear your mones straight for other occasions. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![sifaradia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@sifaradia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sifaradia)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2011, 9:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-re-copulins/52844/3 "2011-10-16T09:13:36Z")
Thanks Tisha 🙂 That was very helpful. After posting above, I continued reading on this forum and saw that my question might not have been “PC” and cause some contention. Personally, this whole thing about whether we can talk about other products is silly, shortsighted and misleading, but hey, it’s not my forum. I’ve worked in advertising/marketing my whole adult life and solid, ethical companies should welcome this kind of dialogue. As an argument against this someone (can’t remember who) posted something like, should Coca Cola allow talk about Pepsi in their forums? The answer to that is yes! My DH has worked in competitive intelligence for years and that kind of open, honest discussion _freely acquired_ about your competitors is gold! Anyway, I just joined this forum and I don’t know what all that is about, but I think it’s a shame. I found this forum looking for HELP and ADVICE. I live in the UK so between the time difference and the ridiculous costs of calling, I tend to limit this sort of thing to the internet. I initially PMed SteveO (no answer) and then Mickaela with my questions, but she referred me to the “helpful and experienced women on the forum”. Now I read that some answers will most likely be edited due to unwritten rules. Ah well… Luckily, I found another forum which unfortunately is not as SEO’d as this one where most of you are members, so I guess I’ll get more real help there 😃, and I’ll come back here to post when I start journaling about my experience with Androtics products and when I’m experienced enough re [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) to be a help to others. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-re-copulins/52844/4 "2011-10-16T14:54:37Z")
To each his own… I will tell you one thing though. Every forum has its bias members who will tell you what they believe to be the “truth”. After all truth is subjective to ones beliefs. I use mones from many different companies. I love AD but there are others I love as well. All I can tell you is that EOW is the most effective I have used from all the copulins I have tried. All other companies except one use EOW in there mixes. If they tell you different they are lying to you. P7 (if your a member of the other place you will figure out my codes) created there own and they are OK. I think it was early in development when I tested them and they needed time to cure or something. I just rather buy them right from the source because like I mentioned its more versitile. Have fun 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 7:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-re-copulins/52844/5 "2011-10-17T07:54:26Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > To each his own… I will tell you one thing though. Every forum has its bias members who will tell you what they believe to be the “truth”. After all truth is subjective to ones beliefs. I use mones from many different companies. I love AD but there are others I love as well. > > All I can tell you is that EOW is the most effective I have used from all the copulins I have tried. All other companies except one use EOW in there mixes. If they tell you different they are lying to you. P7 (if your a member of the other place you will figure out my codes) created there own and they are OK. I think it was early in development when I tested them and they needed time to cure or something. > > I just rather buy them right from the source because like I mentioned its more versitile. > > Have fun 😉 > > Tisha Even I don’t know if I can ask this question here. But on the topic of cops, I had a couple of MX’s with me, and my gosh, did they stink ugh. I’m not sure if you’ve smelled it but [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) with cops was plain out almost unbearable. Did AD use EOW or another source, and I know I’ve been asking you about this for years now and never really got the cops, but when I get bored I’d like to try other things out. @OP like tisha said, there are some great companies out there. You have a good starting point, just don’t believe everything that you hear. AD products, like IH/IO/IShine are some of the best out there. I’m a big believer that the socials are some of the best ones to wear anyway compared to the sexual ones. I’m not a woman so I can’t speak much on it but like how I give new members a heads up, spray, go and forget. The less you think about what mones are doing, the more profound the effect, IME at least. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 9:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-re-copulins/52844/6 "2011-10-17T09:28:54Z")
AD always claimed they had a outside chemist make there copulins. He stopped producing them so they lost there source for them and never found a new source that met there standards. To me it smelled just like the industrial strength copulins that could be bought at the lab that closed that was once owned by the individual who got in trouble for selling illegal pharmaceuticals. Again since this person is still in the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) world I can not mention names but if you have been around a while you know who I am referring to. The copulins AD used worked great and I liked them better then the current EOW. The formula of EOW has changed a bit over the years. It was so much more concentrated when it first came out and was in beta testing. So I would say they got it from one of those two sources. No one else except P7 makes them. They are just to hard to make and really stink up labs. Both the early version of EOW and the industrial strength brand are so offensive and volatile you had to wear goggles and gloves just to get close enough to dilute it. The current EOW is much more mild and less volatile. It doesn’t smell half as bad as it used to. It still works well though. I just had to recalibrate my dosage each time they changed it. I will also mention that curing is really important with copulins. Sometimes when I order my EOW its a newly made bottle and it smells fruity and fresh. Thats because its a new batch. Let it sit a week or two and that musky cheesy smells starts to kick in. From a effectiveness standpoint thats when its ready to use. > [@](#): > > AD products, like IH/IO/IShine are some of the best out there. I’m a big believer that the socials are some of the best ones to wear anyway compared to the sexual ones. I have to agree, I use mones from many different companies that I like. AD products have always been superior in effectiveness for me. That doesnt mean others dont work or are bad. I dont really care about all the negative politics between companies and forum owners anymore. There is a whole lot of bullshit coming from both sides of the fence. I use what works and what I like. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![sifaradia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@sifaradia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sifaradia)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 2:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-re-copulins/52844/7 "2011-10-18T14:32:16Z")
Thanks for the help, Tisha 😉 - really appreciated. I do plan on getting the socials as soon as I get to the US. As for the cops, well, now I know I can’t really get the advice I want on this forum - let’s put it this way, my window of opportunity to use it for what I want is small and I don’t really have the time to fanny ass around with dosing and concentrations and cover scents, etc. I want to get it “right” the first time, if this makes sense. If not right, well then as hassle free as possible and it’s my understanding that with EOW, you need to spend time getting it “right”. So I want some advice on products with cops in them (which is a nono here) since it seems there are so many of them referenced and reviewed in that other forum. Guess I’ll ask my questions there… 🙂 Thanks again! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-re-copulins/52844/8 "2011-10-19T01:37:44Z")
> [@sifaradia](#): > > Thanks for the help, Tisha 😉 - really appreciated. I do plan on getting the socials as soon as I get to the US. As for the cops, well, now I know I can’t really get the advice I want on this forum - let’s put it this way, my window of opportunity to use it for what I want is small and I don’t really have the time to fanny ass around with dosing and concentrations and cover scents, etc. I want to get it “right” the first time, if this makes sense. If not right, well then as hassle free as possible and it’s my understanding that with EOW, you need to spend time getting it “right”. > > So I want some advice on products with cops in them (which is a nono here) since it seems there are so many of them referenced and reviewed in that other forum. Guess I’ll ask my questions there… 🙂 > > Thanks again! Well that poses a problem. No pheromone including cops works at the same dose for everyone. A mix that may be great for one individual may not work as well for another because it doesn’t contain enough copulins or it contains to much. Its the nature of pheromones. You have to sort of “fanny ass” around to find what works for you. We are all biologically different. Its far harder to get your correct copulin dose when its already in a mix and your just looking for reviews with no real guidance from a expert. What works for one may not for another. I am not trying to deter you from going to the other forum, after all I used to be one of the administrators there and I am a member of many forums. Just be aware that one persons favorite may not be your favorite and that go’s for all products including those here. Good luck to you. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![sifaradia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@sifaradia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sifaradia)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 9:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-re-copulins/52844/9 "2011-10-19T09:02:22Z")
Well of course, I know it’s problematic since we’re all biological individuals, but what I’m asking is for a bit of guidance, with that caveat, since I’m a newbie and there are others here, like you, who have vast experience. Like I wrote earlier, I’d like some informed advice, that’s all. If I have a good experience with an already mixed product that’s received a lot of positive feedback, then I’d be more inclined to “fanny ass” 😃 And if, for example, you, or Bella recommend something to me and it doesn’t work as well as it does for you, I’m not about to go and yell at you and blame you for anything - I understand that it’s definitely not an exact science and it can really be hit or miss. I appreciate any advice you give me 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![indarican](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a3d4f5/32.png) [@indarican](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/indarican)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-re-copulins/52844/10 "2011-10-24T15:57:33Z")
so i just ordered EOW and am very excited for it to get here!!! but i dont have any cover scents (what is that? any perfume, or a specific kind of perfume, only oils?) ---
**Author:** ![tinaN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tinan/32/362_2.png) [@tinaN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tinaN)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 1:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-re-copulins/52844/11 "2011-10-25T13:41:11Z")
@Indarican: I have read that a lot of the women here use Pink Sugar as the cover for EoW. As the scent should be really distinctive, do cover it with heavier perfume 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2011, 12:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-re-copulins/52844/12 "2011-11-07T00:26:48Z")
Just a note from a male perspective, being an “ass man” or a “boob man” is largely a visual stimulus response. Cameltoes are seldom distinct one from another to offer any visual differentiation other than on display or not. Both have their aromas, as do vaginas, but that’s separate from the visual aspect. And by the time a man and a woman get close enough, it doesn’t matter much for attraction.