# HELP!!! Save my love and little son **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 6, 2009, 11:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784 "2009-04-06T11:41:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 12:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784/21 "2009-04-08T12:48:35Z")
Take a look at the thread [Instant Gentleman + Instant Jerk = ???](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij/2802) . You could try it as listed. The IJ has copulins in it that will inspire a bit of insecurity or possibly jealousy. It smells like you have been with a woman. That could translate into concern for losing you or it could make her mad. If you want to go without the cops then substitute 2 sprays tuth for 1 spray IJ. If you do go this route you should again pick up the dominant role. It is quite possibly what she is looking for and missing. ---
**Author:** ![pizzman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/51bf81/32.png) [@pizzman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pizzman)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 12:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784/22 "2009-04-08T12:59:36Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > Take a look at the thread [Instant Gentleman + Instant Jerk = ???](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ig-ij/2802) . > > You could try it as listed. The IJ has copulins in it that will inspire a bit of insecurity or possibly jealousy. It smells like you have been with a woman. That could translate into concern for losing you or it could make her mad. > > If you want to go without the cops then substitute 2 sprays tuth for 1 spray IJ. > > If you do go this route you should again pick up the dominant role. It is quite possibly what she is looking for and missing. Thank you. So my weapons go more and more. Problem 1; I’m not sure if it’s good to mix so much. Problem 2; I don’t have [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) Good 1; She still loves me,I know that and I know also how jelous she was/is even if a woman, girl just look at me. (And she get also hot!!! 😉 ) Solution 1; 2xInstant Openness (chatty) + 1x10mcg Androstenone (male dominantion) and later + 2xTUTH (so she will act like find out there was MAYBE another woman to close to me, in the plane or so. Because I HOPE she still pick me up from the airport) Solution 2; 2x IO, 2x IH, 2x10mcg Androstenone; chatty, open with feelings and mind and feel again the male domination that she miss and need since months. Solution 3; Force everything on male domination (what she needs) But it would NOT resolve the problems or make us talk open about problems. What ever I do, she must feel egain my male charming, honest, open, dominating side, so or so,with or without sex. But we MUST talk, very very much in just few, maybe just 2 days. ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 1:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784/23 "2009-04-08T13:33:35Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > … > If you do go this route you should again pick up the dominant role. It is quite possibly what she is looking for and missing. Her question right now is about his commitment, his loyalty, his dedication, his ability to support his family. Her needs are to be respected, trusted, and to be acknowledged as strong and competent. This man and woman are among the few of us for whom the dominant/ submissive relationship is an effortless act of beauty and devotion. When they get to that place again, it will be a victory for both of them equally. But it not a tool that will get them to where they need to be. What needs to be done is only complicated by sex or even strong pheromones. If sex or pheromones is involved, a few passionate kisses and a little IO will be enough. My own recent loss of wife and family makes this … Do not allow another black hole to be created in this universe. Go. ---
**Author:** ![pizzman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/51bf81/32.png) [@pizzman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pizzman)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784/24 "2009-04-08T13:38:28Z")
> [@OoohYahhh](#): > > Her question right now is about his commitment, his loyalty, his dedication, his ability to support his family. > > Her needs are to be respected, trusted, and to be acknowledged as strong and competent. > > This man and woman are among the few of us for whom the dominant/ submissive relationship is an effortless act of beauty and devotion. When they get to that place again, it will be a victory for both of them equally. But it not a tool that will get them to where they need to be. > > What needs to be done is only complicated by sex or even strong pheromones. If sex or pheromones is involved, a few passionate kisses and a little IO will be enough. > > My own recent loss of wife and family makes this … > > Do not allow another black hole to be created in this universe. > > Go. Thank you. I never give up! I promis this tomy self years ago! Will be there for all of her life. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 1:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784/25 "2009-04-08T13:41:13Z")
> [@pizzman](#): > > … > Problem 1; I’m not sure if it’s good to mix so much. > Problem 2; I don’t have Instant Gentleman > Good 1; She still loves me,I know that and I know also how jelous she was/is even if a woman, girl just look at me. (And she get also hot!!! 😉 ) > … 1 - ok to mix 2 - Yes, this is exactly the reactions copulins will inspire. There are positive and negative effects. I looked at what you have and you don’t have a copulin product so it is a moot issue for now. > [@pizzman](#): > > …Solution 1; 2xInstant Openness (chatty) + 1x10mcg Androstenone (male dominantion) and later + 2xTUTH (so she will act like find out there was MAYBE another woman to close to me, in the plane or so. Because I HOPE she still pick me up from the airport) > Solution 2; 2x IO, 2x IH, 2x10mcg Androstenone; chatty, open with feelings and mind and feel again the male domination that she miss and need since months. > Solution 3; Force everything on male domination (what she needs) But it would NOT resolve the problems or make us talk open about problems. > … My advice is to stay away from IH and IO for now. They will work against the dominant aspect. From your arsenal, I’d suggest a anone / rone combination. Pheraps 4 sprays tuth, buffered by 3 sprays of the rone mixture. Play it cool and don’t be overly agressive. Firm and dominant. You’ll see if she wants to submit. It should not be forced. (The paradox is that the submissive person has a lot of power, as you probably know.) If you do spin back into the previous relationship, then you will have the ability to talk soul-to-soul. The nol products may just damage that ability so I’d stay away from them for now. Note anyone else reading - This is advice specific to one individual and his unique situation. It is not what I would say to most pheromone users. Added in edit - I see you have straight anone. Another posibility is an even mix or anone and rone. 20 mcg each. Actually, that will be better than the tuth/rone suggested above. ---
**Author:** ![pizzman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/51bf81/32.png) [@pizzman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pizzman)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 1:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784/26 "2009-04-08T13:54:36Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > 1 - ok to mix > 2 - Yes, this is exactly the reactions copulins will inspire. There are positive and negative effects. I looked at what you have and you don’t have a copulin product so it is a moot issue for now. > > My advice is to stay away from IH and IO for now. They will work against the dominant aspect. > > From your arsenal, I’d suggest a anone / rone combination. Pheraps 4 sprays tuth, buffered by 3 sprays of the rone mixture. Play it cool and don’t be overly agressive. Firm and dominant. You’ll see if she wants to submit. It should not be forced. (The paradox is that the submissive person has a lot of power, as you probably know.) > > If you do spin back into the previous relationship, then you will have the ability to talk soul-to-soul. The nol products may just damage that ability so I’d stay away from them for now. > > Note anyone else reading - This is advice specific to one individual and his unique situation. It is not what I would say to most pheromone users. > > Added in edit - I see you have straight anone. Another posibility is an even mix or anone and rone. 20 mcg each. Actually, that will be better than the tuth/rone suggested above. You seams like thinking in my way. yes, I know much abot her and in the distance and sure also the first time when we are together, she will show how selfsure and powerfull, strong she is. Thats the point where my “coolness” must stay without loosing control and try to hardly dominate oder control her. She must slowely feel like to submit again. Going to use 1 or 2x10mcg Androstenone and layer by 2xIO. IO will open the talk, let her “scream” out, and so we will talk, stay close and when Androstenone fallows (Hope can hold my control and keep my scare secret) to make her slowely “feel” again the strong men she loves. Later short before and after son sleeps, 2 times 1x TUTH. The day after; care the boy, prepare the breakfast, without disturbing, weaking up the woman I love, and use 1xTUTH, layer 2xIH and overlayer 2xIO. And talk. And let her cry out her scares, explain her my plans. PS: Hope my meeting tomorrow night will be good. ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784/27 "2009-04-08T19:09:40Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > … > My advice is to stay away from IH and IO for now. They will work against the dominant aspect. > > From your arsenal, I’d suggest a anone / rone combination. Pheraps 4 sprays tuth, buffered by 3 sprays of the rone mixture. Play it cool and don’t be overly agressive. Firm and dominant. You’ll see if she wants to submit. It should not be forced. (The paradox is that the submissive person has a lot of power, as you probably know.) > > If you do spin back into the previous relationship, then you will have the ability to talk soul-to-soul. The nol products may just damage that ability so I’d stay away from them for now. > > Note anyone else reading - This is advice specific to one individual and his unique situation. It is not what I would say to most pheromone users. > > Added in edit - I see you have straight anone. Another posibility is an even mix or anone and rone. 20 mcg each. Actually, that will be better than the tuth/rone suggested above. For the first time in recorded history, I disagree with you my friend. The point we agree on is that our advice is specific to this couple. My understanding of them is that they have been extraordinarily blessed by a D/s relationship that is somehow completely natural for them. That does not need to be reinforced. It has been somehow preordained. It is inherent in who they are whenever they become as one. Their passion and emotion and sexuality is assured. That is not the question. Every sign is that this is a couple who richly deserves each other. For both of them, their love and passion is undeniable. What is in question is their worldly partnership. Right now their challenge is to build that partnership. To build a trust in each other’s worldly abilities to create and sustain a partnership that will last across the span of time. Trust and Respect. It is mutual trust and respect in a way that goes far beyond sexual or financial that is required. Anything less than the trust and respect that can feed and sustain the dream of a lifetime together will leave everyone involved in a tragic situation. To my mind, if they can clearly see and understand what is in each other hearts and minds, then they will inevitably become as one again. Openess and honesty and a willingness to understand the other is what will bring them together. Sex and pheromones right now will obscure the real questions. If you need any at all, _a few_ passionate kisses and a little IH or IO will be more than enough. Remember who you are. Both of you. Find the courage to remember who you both are and have been across all of time. Yours Again, O ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784/28 "2009-04-09T01:46:40Z")
> [@OoohYahhh](#): > > For the first time in recorded history, I disagree with you my friend. > > The point we agree on is that our advice is specific to this couple… Quite all right. 2 perspectives are more valuable than one. We each have just a small angle on the truth, so we contribute what we can. Your contribution has great value. ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 2:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784/29 "2009-04-09T02:37:57Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > Quite all right. 2 perspectives are more valuable than one. We each have just a small angle on the truth, so we contribute what we can. > … Yes, agreed. We each only have a small piece of the puzzle. And we do agree that for some reason these ones seemed somehow too precious to be allowed to twist in the breeze. Life is far too short to allow their kind of passion to be lost for a year or even for a day. Especially this life, in this time, when all of us from all time seem to be here. It may be that there are not many more chances. Yours, O ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 3:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784/30 "2009-04-09T03:02:13Z")
> [@pizzman](#): > > People, don’t think I dont know my responsabilitys. > > Exactly thats the point. Else, I would turn back and go away like a wanker. They are my love, my life AND responsibility. but I need time, few months more till everything starts to run as it must. They will have the desicion to live near to me or home when ever they want travel or say, daddy/honey, can you come over there this time. > > Now it’s the time to make her feel that i’m there, not daeth or not running away. Now it’s time to refresh her feelings and hope. And I know, sex is not a medicine or solution. We never had sex just for fun. Sex was never for us the mechanical thing. For us is much more beheind it. Thats why I MUST break very fast her walls, resistance and use the few days very “full” with passion. If I’m getting you right, you are looking to get her “Daddy” respect back" and to re-establish the old ties? I recommend: A314 - 3-4 drops Meo-Est - 100 mcg P102 12.5 mcg [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) - 2 sprays Diane ---
**Author:** ![pizzman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/51bf81/32.png) [@pizzman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pizzman)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 8:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784/31 "2009-04-09T08:56:08Z")
Thank you everybody. Thank you that you try to help, understand and give some idea and be sure, all are very important to me to find the right action. Some more about our past and personalitys and her reactions; Jes, our relation started as a game without any tuch or see. With me she find out how strong, powerfull, selfsure she is BUT needs a real dominating men on her side, leading her. We broke the contact for 3 years, and she turn back,contact,write to me an in few months she become “MINE”. With body and soul and life. As I already repeat few times, for me it was a good feeling, like her and specially her submission was what I search forsince 20 years. But, as she kneels the first time, ı feel i love her. I want to say; not fall in love, just a thunder, it was LOVE by its self. Look down and know, this woman MUST stay with me, I must stay with her for the rest of my life. The first years was good, we enjoy the love and the “special” dark!!! side of our live. Then one day she told me we get a kid, was so happy. And fault! start to stop all hard actions, save her to make the pregnancy as comfortable as possible. After we keep saving the hard side and just the soft passion. The problems are the last point. But she also doubt on body (I’m sure not in soul) that I’m still the strong hard men she loves. And she must remember this. And to remember, she must live it, hard, deep on her body and soul. D/S is not only body for us. But without sub/dom she will NOT respect the relation. She need to feel the power of me. Thats why I’m tending to use androstenone for the first time after 5-6 months. ---
**Author:** ![pizzman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/51bf81/32.png) [@pizzman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pizzman)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 8:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784/32 "2009-04-09T08:59:58Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > If I’m getting you right, you are looking to get her “Daddy” respect back" and to re-establish the old ties? > > I recommend: > > A314 - 3-4 drops > Meo-Est - 100 mcg > P102 12.5 mcg > Instant Honesty - 2 sprays > > Diane Thank you Diane, yes, we can say so also. Even if se already have the respect in her, she don’t want to show it for now. I must find a way to take this feeling out of her deeps. And your commandation; please look at my stock. I have just 1 of your list ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 12:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784/33 "2009-04-09T12:25:34Z")
> [@pizzman](#): > > Thank you everybody. Thank you that you try to help, understand and give some idea and be sure, all are very important to me to find the right action… Please let us know what you try, and what happens. We can influence the course of events to a greater or lesser degree. Sometimes there are also other influences outside our control. Wishing the both of you the fulfilment of your reasons for being on this planet. ---
**Author:** ![pizzman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/51bf81/32.png) [@pizzman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pizzman)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 1:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784/34 "2009-04-09T13:03:32Z")
Tomorrow night I will know more and hope to report soon. If you dont read, means I’m on the good way ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 1:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784/35 "2009-04-09T13:40:30Z")
> [@pizzman](#): > > Thank you Diane, > > yes, we can say so also. Even if se already have the respect in her, she don’t want to show it for now. I must find a way to take this feeling out of her deeps. > > And your commandation; > > please look at my stock. I have just 1 of your list Invest in some A314. You won’t regret it. Diane ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 8:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784/36 "2009-04-12T08:50:21Z")
Pizzman, thank you for trying to do the right thing. The pheromones aren’t the full picture. It is the entirety of your efforts that will matter. It is your intent, your changes in behavior, and your dedication to those changes (your “stick-to-it-iveness”). That said, some phero molecules do create some substantial positive self-effects upon the wearer, and whatever you do to leave one circular system of behavior and to enter another… will help. Period. Changes to any one point in a system can change all other points. Steve, send this young man some A314 and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) 2X or 4X. Our compliments (i.e., on us) Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 2:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784/37 "2009-04-12T14:58:00Z")
Wow, you guys are awesome! Androtics never ceases to amaze me with their awesome care and great customer service. _Standing ovation._ > [@MHarris](#): > > Pizzman, thank you for trying to do the right thing. The pheromones aren’t the full picture. It is the entirety of your efforts that will matter. It is your intent, your changes in behavior, and your dedication to those changes (your “stick-to-it-iveness”). > > That said, some phero molecules do create some substantial positive self-effects upon the wearer, and whatever you do to leave one circular system of behavior and to enter another… will help. Period. Changes to any one point in a system can change all other points. > > Steve, send this young man some A314 and Instant Honesty 2X or 4X. Our compliments (i.e., on us) Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784/38 "2009-04-12T16:19:43Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > Pizzman, thank you for trying to do the right thing. > … > , and whatever you do to leave one circular system of behavior and to enter another… will help. Period. Changes to any one point in a system can change all other points. > … Hmmmm… A scaler fractal theory of behavior. OK I’ll do my part to change the world. I’m gonna brew a big pot of strong black tea. OooohYahhhhh ---
**Author:** ![pizzman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/51bf81/32.png) [@pizzman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pizzman)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 7:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784/39 "2009-04-13T07:53:13Z")
Hello people, I know, some are waiting for good news and hope that I solve some points. Sorry, but we don’t solve any problem. There was no talk about problems, future, plans, solutions, hopes. But better maybe I make a short report of the days home. And you can tell me how to interprete. Ladys; you can tell me more about it. Day 1; After landing, take 1xNONE, 1xRONE on front neck and 2xIO on wrists … maybe she would come to pick me up. but she wasnt there. Drive home, 01:00 pm, my 19 months old son was sleeping, wife reading, knock the door 2times, no ne opens, take my key and she look from the living room, be quit, he is sleeping. Ok, went to her, no hi, no hug, nothing, gone to balkony, smoke together,nothing special, just some cold words about nothing. That was a bad start!!! Then, Henri my son weak up, mom gone to him, talk 1-2minutes and told him, come, see who is there. I waitedin the living room, can see his door,no move, bright smile, hi hide his eyes beheind his hands; normal. nearly every child does it. But half hour later we was friends.My wifedont say ever “daddy” “papa” or something like that. Henri does it after a time. That was great. after we drive to a animalpark, Henri loves animals, but was not so much interested this time. We look around than play in the playground, drive!!! an old tractor, wife made many pictures, and so do I of them 2. No touch, no smile, no looks, cold … SHIT. That will be hard. Sad but try to keep my positiv face till we gone early to bed. I gues earlyer then she goes alone. Fallow her, but no, everyone stay on own side. Night,Henri woke up for night bottle, I gone but he dont wanted me. So mom give it, I chaged his diapers and he sleep. feeling; not a nice day but will fight and NEVER lose my hope. Need time and this is what I dont have, time less than money.bad bad bad … Day 2: Next morning; breakfast was everytime a pleasure for us.She loved to eat and the breakfast I prepare for us. Thistime, very easy, fast, nothing special. And then went out, love how my sone runs around the little man.And he talks, I can cry in happyness. Look around, see some dress, shirt for him but wrong size. When he sleep ı drive to another town, 10 miles away,take the shirt we (yes we,my wife and I) like, jeans and another shirt I like. Jeans and shirt was not right but the shirt I take was right her taste. We 2 have very similar taste nearly about everything. Then look around, have a nice day, turn back. All the time I played with my son, love how he says “Papa”. Henri take a bath,and there was the point of my hope! She askme if I can change the washbasin and bathroom cabinett. YES, I can. No joke, decoration; we made it withmy dad long years and I’m good in such works. Later when our son sleep, we on the balcony again, but first drive to the service station to take some cola for vodka. It was a nice night, we talk about 3 hours about everythign but NOT problems, nore our future. But she dont run away when I touch her. We pack the gifts for Henri and his cousin. Find out we neet some bat. for the toy, drive and buy the most expencive bat. in my life. That was nice. No sex, no kiss, no gazing from her, at least I havent seen this. But that she ask me for some changes at home,ho she love this flat make me hope for future. Bad, I havent more time to stay … Day 3: To short and the 2 went to grandgrandparents, they dont like me. And normal that I dont want to make the ostern bad, henri must enjoy the day ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2009, 8:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-save-my-love-and-little-son/27784/40 "2009-04-13T08:33:15Z")
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