# Help with Goth crowd **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 21, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171 "2009-01-21T17:36:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![robert1940](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d07c76/32.png) [@robert1940](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/robert1940)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171/1 "2009-01-21T17:36:44Z")
Hey people Any help appreciated here. I am planning to visit some 2 parties this weekend. Both are Goth -S&M -fetish style. Live shows etc. My guess is that the crowd will be between 18-35 max . Any ideas what to wear ,to score ??? Heheh Have : p74,p79,p80,p93,p101,p103 .est, spaceland,iG,TUTH,ammo,a314,beta and alpha,honesty,openess,instant jerk,none,rone,CTTM, female magic. Many thanks ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 6:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171/2 "2009-01-21T18:19:38Z")
Are you into the S&M scene or just more of an observer? Sub or Dom? If it’s really more goth than anything and you are into that scene. I would say a shot or two of AMMO, a little [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) (couple of sprays if you have the 12.5) and bring TUTH along… if the environment is very sexually charged you could probably get away with a spray or two (or perhaps even more) of TUTH ---
**Author:** ![robert1940](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d07c76/32.png) [@robert1940](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/robert1940)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171/3 "2009-01-21T22:09:41Z")
Damn thats all ? I was thinking of : [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) x2 2-3 sprays Tuth x 2 3-4 sprays 2 drops a314 Spaceland 2-3 sprays p74 I dont know some dirty togo some honesty some openess 3-4 sprays togo Shine some p79 I am going to be wearing my dark Armanis ,boots,coat,trousers ..etc I have 1 weeks beard and thinking of smoking some afghani before. 5-6 martini-vodkas etc I am going to play it: The dark yuppy I was thinking to spray some EST and IFM and TUTH , to the ladies room hehehe What do you think my friend ? ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171/4 "2009-01-21T22:33:30Z")
That’s a kitchen sink mix and a half. What is your sweet spot of AMMO? Apply that amount (not more) Adding A314 is an iffy one - I don’t find the Goth subculture tends towards people who are on the highly social side - You might find yourself being avoided wearing A314 unless you are extremely inviting and friendly (which is then incongruent with the dark, gothy looky you are going for) Dirty + TUTH + 2xAMMO is ALOT of 'none… I’ve never used Dirty/Copulins so I can’t comment on their effectiveness but I get the impression you gotta be a little bit of a cowboy to pull it off (Dirty feels like Instant Jerk…) If you are going for a dark sexual feel… the Instant Jerk signature might cause people to turn the other way (IMHO Dark Sexy + Arrogant isn’t a great combo). I thought P74 was the male bonding Putative… if it’s P79 then I mispoke, use whichever one has that effect. Spaceland is just highly concentrated IO don’t wear it… there is no need You could add Instant Honest/[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) to the AMMO/TUTH mix, but your looking for sex not conversation… I guess it depends on whether you are good at escalating sexually without a long conversation first (if you need the long convo add IH to the mix… IO is best for inane chat) Finally… Instant Shine is good to add - I forgot it earlier… love Instant Shine I would still make it Sweet spot of AMMO + Instant Shine + P74/P79 (whichever one boosts male bonding) and keep your TUTH in your pocket - If the environment is super sexually charged or thigns are going well with a chick use the TUTH to escalate. I guess Dirty could perform the same function as TUTH… I don’t know the product well ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171/5 "2009-01-21T22:33:37Z")
That’s possibly quite a good idea. Some big combo of some sort anyway. In a scene like that where just about everyone is peacocking or trying to stand out, you might want to stand out that bit more… so I’d say, if you’re used to combos of that size, go for it. ---
**Author:** ![robert1940](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d07c76/32.png) [@robert1940](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/robert1940)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 10:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171/6 "2009-01-21T22:40:17Z")
Thanks ! Got carried away Ammo +tuth + honesty + shine is a killer indeed. Used it the whole summer and partied like crazy . Its because of that mix that I am still hyper this season . Nice idea. I have them all in TOGO heheh yeah man thanks .Im already there . I will upload pics if I score 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171/7 "2009-01-21T22:52:57Z")
> [@robert1940](#): > > Damn thats all ? > > I was thinking of : > > Ammo x2 2-3 sprays > Tuth x 2 3-4 sprays > 2 drops a314 > Spaceland 2-3 sprays > p74 I dont know > some dirty togo > some honesty > some openess > 3-4 sprays togo Shine > some p79 Do you really need Ammo, TUTH, A314 AND Dirty all at the same time? Why not just go heavy on one, maybe two? The same question applies for Spaceland, Honesty and Openness. > [@Wrlprchnx](#): > > Sweet spot of AMMO + Instant Shine + P74/P79 (whichever one boosts male bonding) and keep your TUTH in your pocket - If the environment is super sexually charged or thigns are going well with a chick use the TUTH to escalate. I agree with this mix. Maybe add a dash of Honesty (or even better, straight betanol if you have it.) I think if you use too much of too many different products, you risk scattering your energy so much that people will not know what to make of you and ignore you outright. > [@robert1940](#): > > I am going to be wearing my dark Armanis ,boots,coat,trousers ..etc > > I am going to play it: The dark yuppy Get rid of the beard and you’d start to have me tethered. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171/8 "2009-01-21T23:43:25Z")
WARNING: Tater insists that kinky girls do NOT like TAA (Instant Shine). I do not have any confirmation on that. If you include it, be sure to let us know how it goes! ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171/9 "2009-01-21T23:46:19Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > WARNING: Tater insists that kinky girls do NOT like TAA (Instant Shine). I do not have any confirmation on that. If you include it, be sure to let us know how it goes! I can assert that Tater, at the very least, should not make such sweeping generalizations. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 11:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171/10 "2009-01-21T23:48:43Z")
_ **ALL** _ generalizations are _FALSE!!_ ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171/11 "2009-01-22T00:49:52Z")
Wait, what? Did you just say Dirty to-go??? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 4:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171/12 "2009-01-22T04:45:13Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > WARNING: Tater insists that kinky girls do NOT like TAA (Instant Shine). I do not have any confirmation on that. If you include it, be sure to let us know how it goes! Now that’s just not true! If anything, TAA seems to make the nasty pop out a wee bit easier. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 4:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171/13 "2009-01-22T04:55:25Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Now that’s just not true! If anything, TAA seems to make the nasty pop out a wee bit easier. There’s a difference between nasty and perverse. ---
**Author:** ![robert1940](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d07c76/32.png) [@robert1940](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/robert1940)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 9:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171/14 "2009-01-22T09:10:36Z")
Dirty togo yeahh…Just bought .Havent tried it yet . So its Ammo+Tuth +p74 and some betanol .Right ? Will wear shine if I start getting bored or something,or when leaving the place . Thanks people. Sounds like a decent old classic mix . Question: Spaceland goes with smoking weed no(and alcohol) ??? Hehe ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 10:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171/15 "2009-01-22T10:01:26Z")
> [@robert1940](#): > > Dirty togo yeahh…Just bought .Havent tried it yet . > > So its Ammo+Tuth +p74 and some betanol .Right ? > > Will wear shine if I start getting bored or something,or when leaving the place . > > Thanks people. > > Sounds like a decent old classic mix . > > Question: Spaceland goes with smoking weed no(and alcohol) ??? Hehe Since when do they have Dirty to-go? I need to go see this! By the way, Monk by Michael Storer would be an AWESOME cover scent. It smells VERY Gothic and dark. Very good, I love it. ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 10:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171/16 "2009-01-22T10:06:58Z")
What, how, where, I thought Dirty was oil based, just searched store, can’t find it ☹ have Jas and Steve been holding out on us? diamond needs dirty and he’s gonna sulk 😮 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 10:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171/17 "2009-01-22T10:20:25Z")
> [@diamond](#): > > What, how, where, I thought Dirty was oil based, just searched store, can’t find it ☹ > > have Jas and Steve been holding out on us? > > diamond needs dirty and he’s gonna sulk 😮 Don’t worry diamond, we can start the sulking club if we don’t get any! ---
**Author:** ![Rovot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rovot/32/5179_2.png) [@Rovot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rovot)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171/18 "2009-01-22T18:26:10Z")
> [@diamond](#): > > diamond needs dirty and he’s gonna sulk 😮 > [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Don’t worry diamond, we can start the sulking club if we don’t get any! now you guys sound like Emo instead of Goth. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171/19 "2009-01-22T19:08:19Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > _ **ALL** _ generalizations are _FALSE!!_ especially this one? ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 8:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171/20 "2009-01-22T20:04:36Z")
> [@Rovot](#): > > now you guys sound like Emo instead of Goth. 😃 Hey, hey nothing wrong with the emos! LMAO. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-goth-crowd/25171.md?page=2)