# Help with Pheros for First Contact Girl on Tuesday **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 6, 2014, 11:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-pheros-for-first-contact-girl-on-tuesday/63405 "2014-12-06T23:05:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SwedeMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@SwedeMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SwedeMan)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 11:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-pheros-for-first-contact-girl-on-tuesday/63405/1 "2014-12-06T23:05:36Z")
Hello pherotalkers. I’m going to try and introduce myself to this Girl in University on Tuesday. Still a first year student and we are in the same class. 21 years of age. I was thinking of approaching her before our class before her friends arrive and she’s alone. Unless you guys have some good way of doing it even when she’s in a Group. Because I’ve never figured that one out. Thought of simply saying hi and introducing me. Same class so exchanging names would be given for both sides. And maybe ask about some university event/party. If she’s been to one yet. If she’s going to the one coming up. Maybe throw in something about my Halloween experience at the University Halloween event/party. Of course I won’t go too strongly on that. But other than that I’m really not sure what to do. There’s probably going to be 5-15 min before friends arrive/class starts and we walk in to the classroom. I could always add her on Facebook afterwards and possibly build a bit there if the initial hi went well. There are Christmas events and markets I want to take her to in the upcoming weekend if I manage to land her somewhat. Does this sound completely stupid? I would like feedback or suggestions. This is the first time since a long relationship so it’s been a while. What pheros would work for a situation like this? I’m guessing Instant Shine wouldn’t hurt. But otherwise I’m unsure as I am a newbie. I’m trying to read up as much as I can. But it’s also quite near Tuesday. These are the pheros I have bought/get to borrow: A1, A314, AMMO, Instant Shine, [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), TUTH, P83. ---
**Author:** ![SwedeMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@SwedeMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SwedeMan)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-pheros-for-first-contact-girl-on-tuesday/63405/2 "2014-12-06T23:09:28Z")
Hello again. I just wanted to add a thing. Lately she’s been looking at me. And one class I found her looking at me just two seats away. But I was to drained from long lectures to even react in a good way. ---
**Author:** ![snorida45x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@snorida45x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snorida45x)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 3:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-pheros-for-first-contact-girl-on-tuesday/63405/3 "2014-12-07T03:12:35Z")
> [@SwedeMan](#): > > Hello pherotalkers. > > I’m going to try and introduce myself to this Girl in University on Tuesday. Still a first year student and we are in the same class. 21 years of age. > I was thinking of approaching her before our class before her friends arrive and she’s alone. Unless you guys have some good way of doing it even when she’s in a Group. Because I’ve never figured that one out. > > Thought of simply saying hi and introducing me. Same class so exchanging names would be given for both sides. And maybe ask about some university event/party. If she’s been to one yet. If she’s going to the one coming up. Maybe throw in something about my Halloween experience at the University Halloween event/party. Of course I won’t go too strongly on that. But other than that I’m really not sure what to do. There’s probably going to be 5-15 min before friends arrive/class starts and we walk in to the classroom. > > I could always add her on Facebook afterwards and possibly build a bit there if the initial hi went well. There are Christmas events and markets I want to take her to in the upcoming weekend if I manage to land her somewhat. > > Does this sound completely stupid? I would like feedback or suggestions. > This is the first time since a long relationship so it’s been a while. > > What pheros would work for a situation like this? I’m guessing Instant Shine wouldn’t hurt. But otherwise I’m unsure as I am a newbie. I’m trying to read up as much as I can. But it’s also quite near Tuesday. > > These are the pheros I have bought/get to borrow: > > A1, A314, AMMO, Instant Shine, Instant Honesty, TUTH, P83. Definitely wait until she is alone to approach. Group dynamics during the day time (as opposed to nightclubs which is much easier) are difficult. I agree with your approach: honest, genuine and simple is almost always best. Just say hi, how are you, and ask her what she thinks of the class or something like that. Use whatever answer she gives you to branch off into another conversation. If she gives you a one-word simple answer, have another question prepared. Just be conversationally prepared, especially if you’re nervous. Once she knows your name, you then have the excuse to keep approaching her since she “knows” you, and you could build into something more from there. From my experience, I would avoid Facebook until you know her better. In person is so much better because with any online communication she has too much time to think of a response. You want your early interactions with her to be real: first impressions are everything. Primacy effect: [What is PRIMACY EFFECT? definition of PRIMACY EFFECT (Psychology Dictionary)](http://psychologydictionary.org/primacy-effect/) Anyways, try AMMO + IS for a first combination. It’s simple but effective. If you want to get fancy, you could throw some instant gentlemen in there, too. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 10:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-pheros-for-first-contact-girl-on-tuesday/63405/4 "2014-12-07T10:58:17Z")
You don’t have to wait until she’s alone. If she’s with a group of her friends, just tap her on the shoulder, say “can I ask you something?”, and then take a few steps away so she follows you and leaves her group, and then keep it simple. Say something like, “I was just wondering if you’d like to study together some time” or something equally simple. Then exchange phone numbers, and part ways. You can call or text her later to work out the details. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-pheros-for-first-contact-girl-on-tuesday/63405/5 "2014-12-07T14:57:29Z")
Am I detecting a bit of overthinking here? Talking to her alone is good - but don’t overdo things and look for too much by way of responses first time. Esp if you have been around her and reticent for some time already. IS and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is the combo that leaps-out at me. You could be wearing a little A1 - but you will likely need to wear that around her for a while to let its crushy effects set-in, so that’s a longer-term measure. IH/IS might be good to switch to if you do get into studying with her as it adds a bonding/sharing/confiding layer to the Ammo but maybe too much for an initial contact. And personally I’d suggest not to do Facebook. That way lies attention seeking and gratification - you want to keep some mystery about yourself when she’s not seeing you. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![snorida45x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@snorida45x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snorida45x)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 5:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-pheros-for-first-contact-girl-on-tuesday/63405/6 "2014-12-07T17:12:27Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Am I detecting a bit of overthinking here? > > Talking to her alone is good - but don’t overdo things and look for too much by way of responses first time. Esp if you have been around her and reticent for some time already. > > IS and Ammo is the combo that leaps-out at me. You could be wearing a little A1 - but you will likely need to wear that around her for a while to let its crushy effects set-in, so that’s a longer-term measure. IH/IS might be good to switch to if you do get into studying with her as it adds a bonding/sharing/confiding layer to the Ammo but maybe too much for an initial contact. > > And personally I’d suggest not to do Facebook. That way lies attention seeking and gratification - you want to keep some mystery about yourself when she’s not seeing you. 😉 I agree, IH/IS is perfect for if he goes to the next stage with her. I’m tempted to say A314 might even be good for this situation, but I just have this feeling it that might not best for him, since he’s a beginning [pheromone](https://a314.com/) user. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 8:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-pheros-for-first-contact-girl-on-tuesday/63405/7 "2014-12-07T20:52:05Z")
I agree about keeping Facebook out of the equation. Facebook is where mystique goes to die. ---
**Author:** ![SwedeMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@SwedeMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SwedeMan)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 11:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-pheros-for-first-contact-girl-on-tuesday/63405/8 "2014-12-07T23:04:22Z")
I’ll avoid Facebook initially then until I’ve gotten to know her better. And try the Ammo + IS approach. But my Ammo smells like a hefty amount of laundry detergent even at one spray. Was going to go with Ammo one spray on chest and two IS on neck/throat to get it going her way when we talk. Or should I wear the Ammo somewhere else? A bit scared of the laundry detergent smell or is that something women don’t usually note? (And maybe some A1 then and trough out future contact) And not do too much in this first contact unless she is inclined to boost the conversation. Otherwise I’ll keep it simple letting her know me. Who I am and that I’m there you get it (Not to good at explaining). I could use the class starting as a good transition to breaking the conversation and keeping it simple. If she liked it and was active I guess she’ll be left with something to finish and otherwise it was still a start. Thanks for breaking the mystery of talking to somebody in a Group MissDragon. But I would like to avoid doing the study thing as she is more than likely way above me. Not sure but I think so. As she usually hangs with the Group the most “in the known” with the subjects. I’ll try the IH/IS thing if things go well. I’ll try to keep the conversation going with things that come up from her side then. And try to keep some handy extras in case I need to fuel it. ---
**Author:** ![snorida45x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@snorida45x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snorida45x)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 1:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-pheros-for-first-contact-girl-on-tuesday/63405/9 "2014-12-08T01:53:00Z")
> [@SwedeMan](#): > > I’ll avoid Facebook initially then until I’ve gotten to know her better. > > And try the Ammo + IS approach. But my Ammo smells like a hefty amount of laundry detergent even at one spray. > Was going to go with Ammo one spray on chest and two IS on neck/throat to get it going her way when we talk. Or should I wear the Ammo somewhere else? A bit scared of the laundry detergent smell or is that something women don’t usually note? > (And maybe some A1 then and trough out future contact) > > And not do too much in this first contact unless she is inclined to boost the conversation. Otherwise I’ll keep it simple letting her know me. Who I am and that I’m there you get it (Not to good at explaining). > I could use the class starting as a good transition to breaking the conversation and keeping it simple. If she liked it and was active I guess she’ll be left with something to finish and otherwise it was still a start. > > Thanks for breaking the mystery of talking to somebody in a Group MissDragon. > But I would like to avoid doing the study thing as she is more than likely way above me. Not sure but I think so. As she usually hangs with the Group the most “in the known” with the subjects. > > I’ll try the IH/IS thing if things go well. > > I’ll try to keep the conversation going with things that come up from her side then. And try to keep some handy extras in case I need to fuel it. I’m not really a fan of the detergent smell either, although you do start to get used to it. I don’t know why Androtics decided to change the original scent. But the woman, for whatever reason, do not seem to perceive it as a detergent smell. They seem to like it, actually. I’ve never had an issue with that. Plus something that smells like detergent isn’t bad: it just means you smell clean, lol. I don’t usually apply things to my chest because I don’t like the idea of clothes getting in the way of the pheromone diffusion. I’m not saying you can’t do it, I’m just saying I prefer to apply them to places where my skin is showing (like the neck area, behind ears, wrists, and etc.) The neck is definitely my favorite application point. ---
**Author:** ![SwedeMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@SwedeMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SwedeMan)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 5:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-pheros-for-first-contact-girl-on-tuesday/63405/10 "2014-12-08T17:53:27Z")
> [@snorida45x](#): > > I’m not really a fan of the detergent smell either, although you do start to get used to it. I don’t know why Androtics decided to change the original scent. But the woman, for whatever reason, do not seem to perceive it as a detergent smell. They seem to like it, actually. I’ve never had an issue with that. Plus something that smells like detergent isn’t bad: it just means you smell clean, lol. > > I don’t usually apply things to my chest because I don’t like the idea of clothes getting in the way of the pheromone diffusion. I’m not saying you can’t do it, I’m just saying I prefer to apply them to places where my skin is showing (like the neck area, behind ears, wrists, and etc.) The neck is definitely my favorite application point. If women don’t seem to smell it the same way I’ll try some exposed skin instead for tomorrow. As far as I know few places here have water ph levels that require more detergent. Something about it dissolving or not and for some water you need more. I usually find it weird when somebody smells heavily of detergent itself. I’m sure it works way better with exposed skin. Was just a bit scared of smelling like a weirdo. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-pheros-for-first-contact-girl-on-tuesday/63405/11 "2014-12-08T18:07:53Z")
> [@snorida45x](#): > > I’m tempted to say A314 might even be good for this situation, but I just have this feeling it that might not best for him, since he’s a beginning pheromone user. As well as the OP not being used to pheros generally, I’d also be concerned that at 21, A314 might still be a bit mature/too serious for her in an attraction mix. Although a small amount to underline Ammo is viable, esp if she has shown a propensity for more mature guys/status. ---
**Author:** ![SwedeMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@SwedeMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SwedeMan)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2014, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-pheros-for-first-contact-girl-on-tuesday/63405/12 "2014-12-12T20:02:09Z")
I did it this Tuesday but didn’t get along posting until now. Things didn’t go well at all. All of her responses where just single worded -ish and it didn’t go well that way. I guess she was just definitely not interested the slightest. And then I ended up close to her the whole class when it started. Although that’s just coincidence when a lot of people try to just move in on each row. I wore 1 spray Ammo, 2 Sprays [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and 1 spray A1 diluted from a really great guide on these forums. But I doubt the pheros made any difference in this. Maybe I was just far away from anything she wanted ☹. I meet another girl though still wearing the combo and she was super talkative. It was an early morning and I was really tired. I just said “hi” but she started a conversation. And kept it alive even though I was far from in a position to be my normal talkative self. We are going to go grocery shopping together tomorrow as I have a car. And it’s something people do in student cities. I have tried to search for some help on pheros in a car but can’t find that much. Does anybody have some suggestion or info on that? And any thoughts on the first girl. Is it just a hopeless case? Thx for all the help 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-pheros-for-first-contact-girl-on-tuesday/63405/13 "2014-12-12T20:17:50Z")
Dose-down if you are in a car - The confined space makes the impact much harder. Although if its someone physically/sexually comfortable with you, a normal dose can lead to a “pull-over, I need you to do things to me - NOW!” moment. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SwedeMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@SwedeMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SwedeMan)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2014, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-pheros-for-first-contact-girl-on-tuesday/63405/14 "2014-12-12T20:24:47Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Dose-down if you are in a car - The confined space makes the impact much harder. > > Although if its someone physically/sexually comfortable with you, a normal dose can lead to a “pull-over, I need you to do things to me - NOW!” moment. 😃 Ok will do! But do I need to fear air conditioning and humid weather? Another thread mentioned to put the air on circulation and not getting new air in. Is it that bad or can the pheros last for 1 hour without risking headaches? That sounds great 😮 I need to try that sometime.