# Help With Selection situation/age etc... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 25, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-selection-situation-age-etc/16275 "2008-07-25T19:18:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bowcasters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@Bowcasters](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bowcasters)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-selection-situation-age-etc/16275/1 "2008-07-25T19:18:13Z")
I am 18, male, live in Oregon. I read the “boot camp” sticky thread’ it was fairly helpful. The only [pheromone cologne](https://a314.com/shop/) I have tried is Pherlure. With that I felt as if I got much more respect from guys, but not much attention from women. I am going into my next pay period and am looking to try a different product. I have a specific situation, and am hoping someone could point me to something that would fit. I’ve been friends with this really great young women for a few months now. Holding on, to preface I have really bad issues with “Big Brother” Syndrome. At least that is what I call it cause I don’t know anything better. Women I become attracted to, automatically make me there best friend, confide everything in me and such. And I never leave best friend Land. So that’s kinda where I am now. We get along perfectly, we really get each other. Haven’t ever felt more comfortable and open when talking to anyone as much as her. I think I am also a bit too “nice” and caring straight up. So basically everything clicks, on a personal level. But in round about talks. It’s been said by her that nothing will happen because there isn’t “attraction” first. So that’s my issue, everything there minus the attraction. I don’t think it is completely physical either. I am 5’ 10", 210 pounds, on my frame it’s slightly noticeable but not really, nice hair cut, beard, don’t look ratty. It said in that boot camp article that being physically fit, helps natural production. So I am thinking working out again, and a few slight diet changes, would be part of the plan. Sorry if there are too many specifics here… So I am wondering already being somewhat deep in that situation. What would be a product I could use to help foster that “attraction?” ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2008, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-selection-situation-age-etc/16275/2 "2008-07-25T19:46:41Z")
Hello bowcaster! Glad that you already read some stickies, since they all make your next step in choosing a product or thinking about some realistics goals possible 🙂 There is one thing that you need to realize, since you have been friend with that lady for a fairly long time, it is much harder to convert her into a relationship material for you, since she is so used to be good friend and only friend with you. There is no need to discourage, since there are products that CAN help you: ammo can be a great attraction sprark, and she will realize that you are an attractive friend. But everyone has boundaries, so againg there is no guarantee that this will work on her. Maybe a little bit of ih will help developping a better connection and let u know what she thinks about you. But there are tons of other women that can be perfect for you, in case you dont want to focus only on one. 🙂 So good luck! ---
**Author:** ![Adam\_Alpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Adam\_Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Adam_Alpha)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-selection-situation-age-etc/16275/3 "2008-07-25T22:17:44Z")
Hi, bowcaster Mockingbird has some great suggestions and advice there. Sure, try out some Ammo or maybe [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), but remember that pheros aren’t a magic love potion. They are more like putting on your best shirt…one you feel cool, sexy and confident wearing. You feel good, and that radiates out to those around you. I think your main barrier here is that the girl sees you as a friend and nothing more. Perhaps you can change that. Remember, not all girls are attracted to ‘nice’ guys. Also, at 18 the world is your oyster. There are plenty of girls out there, and I’m sure that if you broaden your horizons and take some phero-assisted adventures, you will be pleasantly surprised by the result. Adam ---
**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 7:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-selection-situation-age-etc/16275/4 "2008-07-26T07:17:24Z")
Hello Bowcasters! I’ve read that yuou already look a look to the Boot Camp, so I’ll skip that part. I’ve seen that you already had some experience with pheros, as it looks like you used Pherlure. I didn’t use it, but I know quite well the Androtics stuff. So, as the other guys suggested you, I think that you could take in account Instant Openness, AMMO, A314, [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) and Instant Shine. You could try to get the first three in TOGO size, so you can save some cash and see what works best to you. Keep us updated! See ya Franz ---
**Author:** ![Tenant](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tenant/32/1668_2.png) [@Tenant](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tenant)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 12:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-selection-situation-age-etc/16275/5 "2008-07-26T12:43:22Z")
It sounds like you don’t have problem building up rapport and comfort, so you might want to go straight for pheros that more directly communicate your intentions. Like Ammo or Turn Up the Heat. You can also get some sexual effects from Instant Shine and A314/[Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) from what I have read. Be sure to read this thread: [What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558) ---
**Author:** ![Bowcasters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@Bowcasters](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bowcasters)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 9:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-selection-situation-age-etc/16275/6 "2008-07-27T21:23:46Z")
Than you, so far these posts have been very helpful. Since I am on a budget, what would be a good mix to a low dose of Turn Up The Heat? Would instant shine and turn up the heat in the right proportions be a good idea? I would actually like to reiterate my thanks. Most forums are a bunch of people that want to flame, or get an answer and leave. It seems like the people here really care. Never been on a forum with any sort of a sense of community before. Thanks guys this place is great! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 1:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-selection-situation-age-etc/16275/7 "2008-07-28T01:58:11Z")
Dont forget to pop on up to the intro section and introduce yourself so you can get a $15 GC to the store 😉 ---
**Author:** ![KnowledgeIsPower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/knowledgeispower/32/1201_2.png) [@KnowledgeIsPower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KnowledgeIsPower)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 2:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-with-selection-situation-age-etc/16275/8 "2008-07-28T02:29:16Z")
I’m also 18 and I’ll list you my favorite phermones: Instant Shine [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) Come Talk To Me Mix 2 I really recommend all three. I find Instant Female Magic to be GREAT with girls our age because it really loosens them up and CTTM2 is a really nice ice breaker, especially if you are shy. I’ve tried a bunch of others too but those 3 are my personal favorites which I use all the time. Ammo is also good but don’t use it in work/school situations too much.