# Hep Meh!! Neg.self-effects or just me? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 21, 2008, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hep-meh-neg-self-effects-or-just-me/24132 "2008-12-21T01:56:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pollywolly101](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pollywolly101/32/557_2.png) [@pollywolly101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pollywolly101)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hep-meh-neg-self-effects-or-just-me/24132/1 "2008-12-21T01:56:57Z")
Hello all! I am pretty new around here and just got some of my first products the other day. My question right now is pertaining to [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and MX135… I got both a few days ago; I have now tried them three days in a row. The first day, one spray of each to the neck/chest area. I didn’t notice much of ANYTHING except being a little sleepy in the middle of the afternoon. The next day, I tried two sprays each. Nothing. No nothing except me possibly being a little bit down and blue. Now today, I tried three sprays, Instant Shine to neck and MX135 to wrists. I am beginning to think I am definitely feeling bluer than usual. What is the deal? I have been kinda down lately, but the last couple of days had a couple of reasons to smile a bit. I have been kinda run down feeling since I have been taking some pain med off and on over the last week for a kidney stone. Would that make any diff w/ the pheromones? ---
**Author:** ![Tessa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Tessa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tessa)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 2:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hep-meh-neg-self-effects-or-just-me/24132/2 "2008-12-21T02:04:06Z")
I think the pain meds could definitely impact self effects. Try them again once you feel better and are off the pain meds and I think you might have better luck 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hep-meh-neg-self-effects-or-just-me/24132/3 "2008-12-21T03:00:06Z")
> [@pollywolly101](#): > > Hello all! I am pretty new around here and just got some of my first products the other day. My question right now is pertaining to Instant Shine and MX135… > I got both a few days ago; I have now tried them three days in a row. The first day, one spray of each to the neck/chest area. I didn’t notice much of ANYTHING except being a little sleepy in the middle of the afternoon. The next day, I tried two sprays each. Nothing. No nothing except me possibly being a little bit down and blue. > Now today, I tried three sprays, Instant Shine to neck and MX135 to wrists. I am beginning to think I am definitely feeling bluer than usual. > What is the deal? I have been kinda down lately, but the last couple of days had a couple of reasons to smile a bit. I have been kinda run down feeling since I have been taking some pain med off and on over the last week for a kidney stone. Would that make any diff w/ the pheromones? Any time you try a new [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) it is best to start with one product and wear it for a while at different sprays, getting a feel for what it does before you start layering. Start with one product, get its feel, then switch to the other product. When you know what each product does for you, then try layering for effect. Also, I agree that medications can affect the self effects of pheromones, sometimes completely blocking them. If you are using these for self effects, wait until you are off the medications and your heath improves. Diane ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 6:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hep-meh-neg-self-effects-or-just-me/24132/4 "2008-12-21T06:53:42Z")
It could be the meds Polly, so try again after your are done with the stone. Having a kidney stone can bring anyone down. Ouch. Give a little test… First try MX135 on its own for a few days, MX135 is TAH heavy, and for most girls your either a TAH girl or a TAL girl. When you use the opposite one you feel out of sorts. For instance… I am a TAL girl. I have a strong independent alpha personality. When I use TAH or MX135 I sometimes feel vulnerable and loopy, which I am not used to and it can bring you down. Now I still love TAH and TAH products for there effects. So I give myself a blast of TAL to the chest just for the self effects when I use it. Now try Ishine on its own for a few days. If you feel blue take note as to how long after you applied it that you began to feel this way. Also note if you feel a sudden tiredness. When first using Ishine some peoples bodies need a adjustment time. Your neurotransmitters go into over drive similar to a caffeine high. Just like with caffeine when you come down off it you feel tired and sort of spent which can be confused with feeling sad or blue. Once you body adjusts to it those effects go away. Just like when you get used to the caffeine. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![pollywolly101](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pollywolly101/32/557_2.png) [@pollywolly101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pollywolly101)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hep-meh-neg-self-effects-or-just-me/24132/5 "2008-12-21T16:10:58Z")
Thank you so much guys…that helps. I will try MX135 on it’s on for a bit as suggested and will report back. I should add that one night, I couldn’t resist, I just HAD to try a hit of [Instant Sexiness B](https://phera.com/product/kitten/) and WHOA! The self-effects were almost instant! I definitely had a kittenish, playful, sorta “Marilyn” vibe going for awhile! Good stuff!