# Here we go, let my journal begin...

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**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [July 30, 2013, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go-let-my-journal-begin/59675 "2013-07-30T05:41:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![RayUSA2012](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@RayUSA2012](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RayUSA2012)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2013, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go-let-my-journal-begin/59675/1 "2013-07-30T05:41:36Z")

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I have received my WMD…I hope.  
I will test these bad boys little by little, eventually mixing them up.

I will start out with AMMOx2 and IOx2  
I am going to meet someone so if we get comfortable I might throw a TUTH in the mix somewhere along the line.

BTW, you guys have lighting fast shipping. Came in a BANG!

They all smell darn good, if you ask me…  
[P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/)? I guess it’s all testing and experimenting!

Let it begin!

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2013, 8:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go-let-my-journal-begin/59675/2 "2013-07-30T08:55:55Z")

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Lovely Arsenal… Gives me goose pimples… 😉

Yes, do tell how the testing goes! Will you be doing methodical testing first or a phero baptism? That is, go crazy and spray what you find nearest you?  
Good times for sure to come!

1Alpha

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**Author:** ![RayUSA2012](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@RayUSA2012](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RayUSA2012)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go-let-my-journal-begin/59675/3 "2013-07-30T16:09:27Z")

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Initial observations…

The thing about Japan, and its train commute scene is…mundane to say the least. People in general have learned to suppress themselves so good, I did not get ANYTHING. I did get few looks here and there, but this is kinda normal for me so I doubt it was the mones. I am very very Americanized, so I guess I will keep on experimenting until the weekend.

I personally think I OD already, as I accidentally rolled WAY too much SOE and then shot 3 x ammo (1x strength) I noticed almost EVERYONE was putting their back on me (seems unusual) so I don’t know if I intimidated them.(I am pretty big for Japanese standard, physically)

I’ll wait til later and and try a shot of IO around lunch.

It smells pretty good, and in general I feel little more up-tempo, as for self effects.

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**Author:** ![RayUSA2012](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@RayUSA2012](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RayUSA2012)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2013, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go-let-my-journal-begin/59675/4 "2013-07-30T18:46:41Z")

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I did receive 3 looks from this cute girl adjacent from me, and all 3 times we locked our eyes lol.

Just for people that don’t understand the culture here, it really is suffocating. It is considered taboo to open yourself during work, especially if you are working in an office-like environment.

I will observe more, and hopefully I can get more feedback on my commute way back to house where people are more relaxed. BTW, IO smells incredible! This is a fine cologne by itself if you ask me.

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**Author:** ![RayUSA2012](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@RayUSA2012](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RayUSA2012)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2013, 6:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go-let-my-journal-begin/59675/5 "2013-07-31T06:43:56Z")

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Well, a slow night.

So I did meet a female acquaintance of mine, and we had few drinks.  
Before I met her I sprayed 1 x IO, 2 [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/)(5mcg) and 1 humble shot of TUTH.

She was friendly, but did seem intimidated. We did have a decent conversation, and she did stuck around. After an hour I decided to give myself 1x SE AMMO and see if that makes any difference. I did notice minor changes. She started to mention about how I should be a catch of a town, and she eventually accepted my subtle body touch.

If I say she was reserved, that is an understatement (Frown)

I noticed 3 girls coming in and I almost moved on to them! lol But I did invite her so I continued with her.

I don’t know if I can report anything else. I can’t say the mones helped, but she had her guards UP 5 feet above her head. And she did not budge, though I did notice it did lower, but not low enough.

Confused, I decided to stop by the bar where I did get some action last weekend (Ironically, with MAG) And for a change I decided to spray 2 more P74.

This bar is my “home court” to say the least. The owners know me, the bartenders know me and they are awesome guys. They greeted me, gave me high fives, and good times roll.(Surprised to see the girl I had fun with there again…yikes!)

Nothing major did happen, though I did notice that 2-3 guys were particularity curious about me. Now, I am bilingual and I just met this Norwegian guy. I was speaing English with him and talking to him about Norway in general because I’ve been there.  
Then one guy asked THAT girl about me and she explained. He came and greeted me and told me about how cool it is to have such unique backround yada yada yada.

I thought if p74 did trigger something minor? It could’ve been just this guy being social and all…  
I spent about an hour and decided to go home. I was about to pay up for the grub (500yen, about 5 bucks) and I didn’t have the change.  
Well, what do you know? The Norwegian guy offered it and paid it for me.  
Was the mones at work? I can’t say for sure, but I did come out very social and friendly to him and perhaps it helped?

Things to think about.  
I just took a shower, washed the mones up, and will do so again tomorrow morning.  
I think I will try Pheromax by itself with a cologne cover and see. I noticed some of the members mentioned it works with Asian crowd. I will let you know.

I will then try AM on the weekends. I saw some outrageous review on pherotruth so I am not trying to keep my hopes up…

I would find it sarcastic if MAG is the only one that provided me with actual result because I kinda sabotaged the mones. lol

Oh, one interesting event at work. I put on 2 x IO around lunch and then 1x P74(5mcg) about two hours later. I walked pass by the cute girl I have been observing. Then she lifted her hair, pretending she was going to tie it, but she just played with it and let it hang again. Pretty sexy! She had a slight smirk for about 5-10 seconds. After that, though, was dead…

I still AM skeptical of the mones scene(even though it got me action, it could just have been me…) but screw it man, I spend too much $ and dove in this deep, there is no turning back!

To tomorrow!

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**Author:** ![RayUSA2012](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@RayUSA2012](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RayUSA2012)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go-let-my-journal-begin/59675/6 "2013-07-31T17:02:38Z")

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Last night was pretty slow…

Before I went to meet my friend I gave myself 2 x IO, 2 x [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/), and one very humble spray of TUTH.

We met and had a chat over a drink. She had her guard up like 5 feet above her. I don’t know if it was AMMO left over plus the TUTH, but either way she had like 3 layer of armor on, fair enough. The talk was ok, nothing major.  
After an hour I decided to spray 1 x SE AMMO to go and see if it triggers anything different.

I did notice that she started to compliment me, about how I should have many girlfriends and that I am a good looking guy yada yada yada.

Then 3 younger girls came in at the bar and I almost moved onto them! lol I asked her out so I decided to stick around for a bit.  
She did pay for me, which was nice…maybe she was a nice girl, or was it p74?

Then I went back into the bar that I got an action last weekend. There were few people there and also THE same girl I had fun with…oh oh.

It was good. I sprayed 2 extra P74 and see if it plays any effect.  
I met a cool Norwegian guy, and were chatting for a bit as I have been to Norway before.  
Then I was just chilling for a bit. I did notice couple of guys were anxious to meet me as they seemed to be curious of my presence and of course, my English.

I was about to leave and was going to pay up. I didn’t have small change so I was going to reach for my wallet, but this Norwegian guy decided to pay for me…was mones at work?? I have no idea, maybe he liked me, thought I was cool? Can’t say for sure.

At least I only paid about 500 yen(about 5 bucks) total for night, so can’t complain.

So back to this morning, I decided to give a good wash, and applied Pheromax x 2 spray, and 2 shots of P74 above my head as a mist shower. I felt DAMN good for some reason. I was really up beat and had a slight smile on my face for about 15 minutes.

In the morning I always walk the same route, and almost always see same crowd. This “cougar,” somehow, after all the days and months I’ve seen her and NEVER had even an eye contact, looked at me from little afar, and even turned her head to look at me right when I passed her. We locked eyes and I gave her a smile because I was feeling good.

Not a bad way to start a day.  
Enter train, and nothing…until this younger chick dame in, looked at me, and did that for about 4 times in 15 minutes she was there…All right…

Can’t wait til the weekend and test these bad boys out!

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**Author:** ![RayUSA2012](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@RayUSA2012](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RayUSA2012)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go-let-my-journal-begin/59675/7 "2013-08-01T16:30:42Z")

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It’s Friday!  
Gave one more try on the pheromax x 2, and IO x 2.  
Nothing this morning on the commute.

I kinda stand out a little too much in the Japanese train, so I don’t know if people are avoiding me purposely or not. (I have an American dress style and wearing shades…)

I also noticed that humidity makes these mones ineffective to some degree, plus ACs are blaring out everywhere. (It is HOT and humid here in Japan…)I think odds are against me, so I would think Bars/Clubs would be ideal.

I am going to meet 4-5 girls tonight with a friend of mine, and brought a bottle of AM. I will give myself a good spray before I go out and report!

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**Author:** ![heymixx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/49beb7/32.png) [@heymixx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/heymixx)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go-let-my-journal-begin/59675/8 "2013-08-02T17:34:54Z")

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I love these reports. With the culture against your mones it’s amazing you get anything at all. Looking forward to seeing what happens in the coming weekend 🙂

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**Author:** ![RayUSA2012](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@RayUSA2012](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RayUSA2012)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go-let-my-journal-begin/59675/9 "2013-08-02T18:31:56Z")

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Well, well, well…

I spent a night in Osaka, partying all night…and found myself a cute Aussie chick. Of all things in Asia, I never thought I would be hooking up with someone like her.

So Friday went down like this.  
After work, I put 2 x Alpha Maschio, one on my wrist, nudged it on both my wrists, and one shot to my chest. Went to bar, a Biritish one. Bang, right off the bat, I get real good stare form 4 girls. 2 of them were little too old, but other 2 was pretty darn cute. I was with my friend and he was very conservative guy so I just played it along.

About an hour later, my friends show up (4 girls, on a bachelorette night 😮), insert lots of drinks here lol.

I was going to take off because I had to take a train, and is about an hour away from my home. If I miss this, I am basically stuck in Osaka for 5-6 hours. If I was to stay, it means I had to be ready to do some serious partying.

The fact I never partied in Osaka overnight and also the fact I was pretty intoxicated, I figure why not? And decided to stay. Off to the club we go…😃

This is where things got interesting. It was empty for a bit, but it eventually picked up. Cue in TUTH x 1 to my chest (About 4 hours after my AM spray).

Now, this club is pretty darn international. I saw many many different type of people coming in and getting their groove on. I had minor hits from different girls, but the BIGGEST one was from this cute Aussie chick. She just could not keep her eyes off me. I noticed that so I just pulled her to me and we started to dance and talk.

Lets just say we had a good time, and she COULD NOT STOP KISSING the mones area. 🆒

I am starting to believe the mones a little more now. I will still have to experiment, but 2 weekends with 2 positive results, that seems solid so far.

Here we go Saturday!

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**Author:** ![RayUSA2012](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@RayUSA2012](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RayUSA2012)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go-let-my-journal-begin/59675/10 "2013-08-04T02:43:49Z")

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Sunday…

I sprayed 2xIO,2xAMMO, 1xhumble AM spray, 2XP74

Not too much to report here. I did go shopping and the really cute girl was VERY friendly and chatty, I would say beyond regular customer service in Japan.

She kept asking me some personal questions, and told me that I am very “manly.”  
Um, okay. I’ll take it!

So far, AM has been pretty darn good. It had pretty good result compared to Pheromax. AMMO itself has not gotten obvious results, but it smells damn good so it will be my daily use cologne!

TUTH is something I have to carry and use according to the situation. So Far, AM has been decently predictable, and I might use this as my “swagger” enhancer.

I received my [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) and anxious to try!  
I will continue my journal, and report stories as it happens.

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 12:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go-let-my-journal-begin/59675/11 "2013-08-04T12:50:35Z")

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I’ve gotten the you smell ‘manly’ comments most often with AMMO… and in your case, the IO seems to have been making it easy for the sales gal to just come out and Tell you.  
As to the scent package for AMMO, which one are you using?

There is AMMO, then [World Edition](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/world-edition/) and Summer Edition. I’m curious…

MX297 is a solid MX. I’ll be on the lookout for your testing and update on this bad boy!

1Alpha

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**Author:** ![heymixx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/49beb7/32.png) [@heymixx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/heymixx)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 3:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go-let-my-journal-begin/59675/12 "2013-08-04T15:23:47Z")

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1aplha What’s the difference between world edition and summer editions?

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 7:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go-let-my-journal-begin/59675/13 "2013-08-04T19:57:59Z")

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I got FF21 and SE edition, I like the SE edition better, as smell wise. Both doesn’t seem to be as effective as AM, but in fairness I have to take it out for a spin in more relaxed enviroment

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go-let-my-journal-begin/59675/14 "2013-08-04T21:22:01Z")

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> [@heymixx](#):
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> 1aplha What’s the difference between world edition and summer editions?

Scent package, mostly. All 3 iterations of AMMO have the same mone components, but different scent packages.  
Thought, AMMO SE has some/more TAA, which is the main molecule for IShine, so, it is a bit more friendly than sexy, IME.

My personal faves, because of scent preferences, is [World Edition](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/world-edition/) and secondly, Summer Edition.

1Alpha

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2013, 7:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go-let-my-journal-begin/59675/15 "2013-08-05T07:26:17Z")

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I’m already trying to brew a magical mix this weekend. I personally think [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) x 2, AMx2, P83 (25mcg)x 1( or 2, is that too much?) would be my mix of choice, because AMMO has not been giving me results. But again I need to find the sweet spot for it.

AM just has gotten me some positive results every time I put them on. Now just to disprove myself I will put them on tomorrow during commute and I guarantee I won’t get squat lol.

Updates coming!

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**Author:** ![RayUSA2012](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@RayUSA2012](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RayUSA2012)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2013, 7:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go-let-my-journal-begin/59675/16 "2013-08-10T19:28:17Z")

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Some updates!

I’ve been experimenting the mixes here and there…  
I got [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) and P83 and working them as a stand alone and mixing.

So far, MX297 has been inefficient for me except one incident.  
It was Friday night, and I was out at a bar. I met an older American woman(in her late 30’s) and after just 5 minutes of conversation, she was getting real fond of me. She stated things such as "Where have you been all this time!? " and such…

She turned out to be a major pain in the a$$, so that was about it.  
I has a decent sucess with AMMO(SE) and P83 with little residue of AM and Shine last night.

I took out with a younger chick for a drink(she’s mid 20’s), and she was really digging the smell. In the end, she kept saying how great I smell, and she contemplated about coming home with me (trust me, in Japan this is like a end of world type of decision for girls. I don’t know why…it didn’t happen, but it was a positive experience overall)

Another good weekend. Will continue to update!
