# Here We Go

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [July 11, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174 "2011-07-11T15:47:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bad\_Method](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Bad\_Method](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bad_Method)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174/1 "2011-07-11T15:47:57Z")

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a) 21  
b) male  
c) San Diego, CA

Whats up everyone, just saying my Hello’s in an attempt to try these products for the first time! Im a 21 year old male student from California (San Diego) to be exact. I stumbled across this website after a couple female friends of mine introduced me to a female [pheromone perfume](https://phera.com/shop/) from a bachelorette party. They claimed it actually worked, so I tried researching it on google, ended up to this website. Now I dont really have trouble meeting new people at the Bars/Clubs, but its usually the ice breakers thats hardest, so hopefully these products will aid me with that. Other than that, I dont know much about pheromones, but I AM researching. I got a couple questions that have already been answers through these forums and now I think I’m ready to test and see what good they can do for me.

In all honesty, back in high school I really felt more relaxed as we all knew each other. I had no problem meeting the girls, played sports (soccer+tennis+football), and was cool with a bunch of the guys. Problem came when I was introduced to college, new atmosphere, new people, a totally different ball game for relationships between the ladies and guy friends. Shyness was apparent when meeting new people, esp females. I shop in urban California/Arizona clothing stores. Fitted shirts, jeans, shorts, a nice pair of running/basketball shoes. We like to dance at clubs and have fun at bars in a group of usually 3-4, but when it comes down to it, I’m the one who would wait until were introduced to other people.

I am a bit skeptical, it seems too good to be true. So hopefully theres some good results coming when I get the travel size sprays/cologne things. 🆒 From what I know is that pheromones are naturally occurring from the human body. I’m really not sure how these could work, on account that I believe humans has lost their smell for pheromones (notice we dont get into relationships based on someone’s smell) but rather looks and sometimes personality. It’s also been bugging me, how did the chemists or whoever made these products, single out the molecules of certain pheromones? Whatever the case may be, I’m hoping for the best for these products 🙂

If theres anything more that should aid me in selecting the right products, please let me know

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**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174/2 "2011-07-11T15:48:24Z")

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Hi there,

Nice to see you joining us !

That´s pretty cool from your female friends to tell you about their secrets !

btw .. good intro you made !

You can be sceptical and i was at first as well when i stumbled across [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) … i thought .. if they work it´s o.k. but if they don´t … who cares .. and because i´m a very curious guy i tried them out !

Of couse will you get some good results once you´ve got your stuff .. have you already ordered ?

Those molecules are synthetic and were found by analyzing human sweat … tears ..

Hmm you don´t say for what purpose you want to use pheromones … are you thinking about getting more girls .. getting more numbers.. you say you need them to work as an icebreaker … how are you perceived by others … do you do sports ..

What do you think that pheromones .. except from working as an icebreaker could do for you ?

to get a good impression what pheromones can do for you check — \>

\*\*[What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558)

> [@My stupid newbie tricks](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369/1):
>
> STOP If you are new and have not read this thread byZeph Ksages great expectations post Another great post that may help many guys by Fire and Ice Wow, the two month mark! I might as well post a few of my less than stellar phero adventures. I wouldn’t have listened to me but there may be some smarter noobs out there who will heed these remarks. First order was A314, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, Instant Shine, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), Turn Up The Heat, CTTM. smiley I think the mo…

> [@Pheromone F A Qs](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-f-a-qs/11517):
>
> Ok, I was bored and extremely intoxicated while doing this. That being said, I’ve noticed the same questions being asked so I decided to put together a FAQ. I feel these are the top 10 most common questions. To find a question easier instead of scrolling down and finding it, search for it. Windows, use ctrl + f and search for “1.8” and it will only lead you to 2 places, the top, here and to the bottom, where the question is without having to scroll down. For macs, use command, that funky squigly…

> [@How to Tell a Woman is Interested In You -- The Master "Indicators of Interest List"](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-tell-a-woman-is-interested-in-you-the-master-indicators-of-interest-list/8333):
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> Multiple looks. Women have much better If you catch us looking at you more than once, it’s probably becuse we’re attracted and we can’t help it. You catching us looking at all. Women look at you fast. If you catch us looking at you, this may be because we’re attracted. Not always (I get horrified when I see someone catching me looking when I’m not actually interested), but often. You guys have muscle, but we have social muscles. WHen you catch us being less than discreet, we often mean it and/…

[Updated AndroticsDirect Pheromones for newbies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/updated-androticsdirect-pheromones-for-newbies/39802)\*\*

as well i suggest you should look at the store to get an impression what kinda products Androtics sells and read the product descriptions ..

> **[Social Success Pheromone - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/)**
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> A314 cologne is a powerful blend of 17 pheromones that enhance your confidence and gives you amazing social experiences you will never forget

As you´re searching for an product that works like an icebreaker you should consider to get some IO or IH …

as well read up on the stickies here in the intro Forum and over at the men´s place !

go out and have fun …

Pago

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**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174/3 "2011-07-11T15:50:38Z")

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Welcome!

The truth is pheromones works, the right ones. 😉 The best icebreaker is IO, but also it is too soft, you need also other things, a attraction, mature base. Ammo is this base, it is attraction, social and mature, all in all sex. Together with IO a great icebreaker. For trust and deeper conversation you need IH. For fun and mood elevating [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). TUTH is the sexual punch.

Tell us more and become the gift certificate: [How do I qualify for a $25 gift certificate?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934)

The MX series and Putative molecules are experimental mixes or single [mones](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) … They still need users to test and report on them.

Check the male section with many experienced pheromone user’s, they are all glad to help you and each other out!

For more informations about the male products:

> [@What works: BUSINESS APPLICATIONS (sales, meetings, etc)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220):
>
> Okay, I figure I’d start some threads aimed at SPECIFIC topics, and ask for SPECIFIC recommendations. Please post your BEST products/applications/mixes that you have developed for BUSINESS APPLICATIONS (sales, meetings, etc) Please post things that have worked, not just idle speculation. Please note possibly pertinent information such as ages (yours and “targets”/“test subjects”), environment, etc. And do what would you think if your mix (or someone elses mix) were turned into a general roo…

[What works: CLUBBING/"PROWL" MIXES (eg sex: as in One Night Stands)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-clubbing-prowl-mixes-eg-sex-as-in-one-night-stands/224)  
[The Snook's big book o' pheros for rookies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-snooks-big-book-o-pheros-for-rookies/5879)  
[What "Unanswered" means and how to select the best answer to your questions](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-unanswered-means-and-how-to-select-the-best-answer-to-your-questions/23652)

Have fun!

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174/4 "2011-07-11T16:37:19Z")

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Hiya - Welcome to Pherotalk. 🙂

Good advice from the posters above and I’ll second that an amount of Ammo and/or the socials [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), IO or IH provides good support to your personality and other assets as an icebreaker.

Phero science is an interesting one - Much of it developed from animal and insect behaviour research that spread to more highly evolved species and a very significant amount of the pheros we consider for attraction today emerged from research pertaining to contraception in the 50s and 60s - This work also progresses today and you can view recent papers etc in the science forum.

You can also contribute to this work by posting clear reports of your results, good and bad here. For the Instant line and later the Putative/MX products when you have got the hang of observation and reporting. 🙂

The main thing is to enjoy and learn to the best of your abillities though! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bad\_Method](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Bad\_Method](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bad_Method)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 6:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174/5 "2011-07-11T18:03:39Z")

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WOW thanks for the quick responses, I honestly didnt think this much helpful people would be around ha. I am learning a lot just from these posts! Generally speaking, I am a bit shy at first, so I’m hoping for “cause comfort, cause interest, and attract.” Not much, but again I am still barely starting and about to test these out. So for now that is my aim. I like to see myself as social, but I just find it too hard approach people alone in a club/bar atmosphere. I usually meet other’s through friends, female friends, friends of friends etc. But again I’m not the creeper hiding in the corners either, I’m hoping this stuff would I guess help boost my confidence around pretty woman and people in general.

Not sure if that seems a bit arrogant on my half to expect that, but I’d be damned if this isnt just a placebo effect and it does what it does.

I havent ordered yet, but Im thinking on ordering the beginner’s travel sized Ammunition+[Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and possibly ‘Instant Open or Alpha A314’- Cant decide on these two.

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174/6 "2011-07-11T18:24:32Z")

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Hey there Bad…

I think that [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) is a good times all around mone. I actually started my mone usage with Instant Shine and tested it out by itself! I’ve gotten good and consistent results with it. I also saw IO as a verbal deluge mone during my testing and have gotten big bottles of these since.  
For that pesky placebo effect, I also bought myself a big bottle of Neroli scented perfumer’s alcohol. This is the default scent package used to ‘carry’ the mones in Instant Shine and IO.  
I blind tested bottles and could tell EVERY time when it was just the Neroli or a mone laced Neroli scent package. The self effects and effects on others were noticeable. But… don’t take my work for it… you could do the same test yourself.

Travel sizes get you about 40 spritz’s, so that should be enough for you to ‘see’ their effects. I mean, you’ll still need to be present… show up with your attitude and personality. Mones will enhance, highlight, confirm the attitude you put out to your target audience. So, if you don’t participate… you won’t get the results…

There is such a thing as free will, so people won’t fall over themselves to do what you want…

I just commented on another thread how AMMO and IS is a great Golden combo. Though, I’ve gotten some positive responses from others with IS and AMMO by there lonesome.

Oh, and when you get your GC, you could technically get a couple of these mones with the Togo size. When you’re placing you’re order, at the bottom box will be a comments section for you to input. You could ASK NICELY for a Togo of IO or Instant Shine. I’ve gotten some free bee’s in my orders from AD and if they can, will honor the requests in the comments. Be nice, Mr. Method!

Cheers and have fun with the mones!!! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bad\_Method](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Bad\_Method](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bad_Method)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174/7 "2011-07-11T19:49:22Z")

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Great thanks, seems like those are going to probably be my first purchases after the initial test runs. So far after reading the forums a bit, it seems nothing but positive reviews. Ill probably try the Ammunition alone first, see how that goes. Yeah I figured a person would have to play a good role before a magic cologne would work, Im hoping if there is any signs that it is actually working, that its just not me gaining confidence because I knew I’m wearing a product

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174/8 "2011-07-11T20:11:51Z")

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Please, read up on my sig below, the intro to mones by Steve O as well as Tisha’s, how do I know if it’s a HIT?!? I would have loved to have read these when I first started out to not be fumbling about using my mones.

It’ll help coalesce in your consciousness what to look for and what may be attributed to the mones or to your personality or clothes… etc…

Very helpful for you now, especially before you get your first mones.

> [@Bad\_Method](#):
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> Great thanks, seems like those are going to probably be my first purchases after the initial test runs. So far after reading the forums a bit, it seems nothing but positive reviews. Ill probably try the Ammunition alone first, see how that goes. Yeah I figured a person would have to play a good role before a magic cologne would work, Im hoping if there is any signs that it is actually working, that its just not me gaining confidence because I knew I’m wearing a product

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174/9 "2011-07-11T20:44:23Z")

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> [@Bad\_Method](#):
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> I havent ordered yet, but Im thinking on ordering the beginner’s travel sized Ammunition+Instant Shine and possibly ‘Instant Open or Alpha A314’- Cant decide on these two.

[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and IS are an excellent first choice and should give you a clear demonstration of phero effectiveness.

For starters, unless you have thought hard on what you want from it, I’d suggest you stay away from the A314 - At least till you get your first batch out of the way. IO is another straightforward, social and easy phero to work with, whilst A314 is much more subtle in itseffects and can come-off as standoffish/daunting as well as sometimes being difficult for newcomers to work with.

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**Author:** ![Bad\_Method](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Bad\_Method](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bad_Method)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174/10 "2011-07-11T21:58:24Z")

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I did read on one of the threads that Ammo is no longer sold in the USA due to FDA guidelines? Today, is this still true?

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174/11 "2011-07-11T22:11:59Z")

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Not the case…

You can order it here…

“AMMUNITION” (In the Battle of the Sexes!) [Pheromone Cologne](https://a314.com/shop/) for Men :: Spray Pheromones :: Androtics Direct ([AMMO – Sexual Attraction Pheromone Cologne For Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/ammo/))

Anyways, FDA doesn’t regulate the perfume industry and AMMO is considered perfume or cologne…

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 10:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174/12 "2011-07-11T22:22:09Z")

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> [@Bad\_Method](#):
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> I did read on one of the threads that Ammo is no longer sold in the USA due to FDA guidelines? Today, is this still true?

No - Ammo is one of AD’s lynchpin products and it is very much still on sale.

What this refers to is the original Ammo scent - called Game, was withdrawn due to a couple of its ingredients falling foul of FDA guidelines. However, Game was replaced by two other scents, F21 and F22.

Now here is one of the issues with Ammo - The standard scent, F21 is very effective at diffusing the pheros but it is a love it or hate it scent - Some say it is far too astringent or smells like cleaning products. Which is fine if you want to smell fresh I suppose?

However, you can also get it in F22 or “[World Edition](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/world-edition/)” scent for the same price and that is a more traditional cologne scent and still very effective. Personally, it is my favourite choice. You can find it under the “Archive and Alternative Versions” tab.

Other fragrances are possible on a custom order and Akuto also has its fans but that can be subject to an extra charge - See the “Fragrance Customisation” tab for a range of options there. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bad\_Method](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Bad\_Method](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bad_Method)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 11:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174/13 "2011-07-12T23:10:23Z")

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So just curious as to know if there should be more information about me to be to qualified for the GC?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2011, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174/14 "2011-07-12T23:25:42Z")

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I doubt it - Mickaelia will undoubtedly be along to issue it soon. Give her a little bit longer.

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174/15 "2011-07-13T01:13:15Z")

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OOORRRR… you can inundate her with PM’s, post messages on her user profile… You may get her attention, and get her to look at your intro thread. But more than likely may irritate her… Then, the newbie mone director, Mickaelia, may bring her wrath upon you… 😛

Like Russian roulette… Do you wanna risk it?!? 😃 😃

She’ll usually be by in a couple of days from your initial post. So… I’d also recommend excruciating patience… Patience, young padewan!!! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bad\_Method](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Bad\_Method](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bad_Method)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 1:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174/16 "2011-07-13T01:27:03Z")

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oh hah Im not in a hurry actually for the GC, I was curious if I should add more info lol. I am excited though!

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174/17 "2011-07-14T18:32:50Z")

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Welcome to pherotalk Bad method!

Thanks to alpha you probably think am evil but gift certificates are issued daily it just takes me some time since I am swamped to get to the introductions and respond.

In addition, I have a wonderful team to support me and get you guys started so am good to go.

Eventually with good research you will find out what this stuff is all about. Unlike animals you don’t see us humans sniffing each other and it’s not something you do consciously and say wow, I love his [pheromone scent](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/) since most persons don’t even know about pheromones.

The scent or vibe sends out signals to the brain and that is how it works so without you actually smelling someone like a dog or scent the pheromones released by that person will have an affect whether positive or negative.

**Your gc was issued! 😉**

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**Author:** ![Bad\_Method](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Bad\_Method](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bad_Method)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174/18 "2011-07-14T20:37:33Z")

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great thank you much! I will be receiving it in my email correct?

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174/19 "2011-07-14T22:42:13Z")

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Yup, you should get it in the email you registered your forum account. Check your spam folder if you don’t see it. If Mick says she sent it, she SENT IT!

And just to clarify… NO, her disposition is NOT grumpy and she is the sweet gal of AD!!! 🙂

Cheers!

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**Author:** ![Bad\_Method](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Bad\_Method](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bad_Method)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/here-we-go/51174/20 "2011-07-15T17:36:22Z")

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thank you all for your help! I placed my order for Ammo+IS yesterday with the next day shipping. So hopefully I will be testing them soon!
