# here's a thread not covered: gay pheromones?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [March 28, 2007, 5:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784 "2007-03-28T05:27:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![vanyel5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vanyel5/32/416_2.png) [@vanyel5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vanyel5)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 5:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784/1 "2007-03-28T05:27:44Z")

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\*\*okay, for all you happily and openly gay guys…what do you find working for you? it’s cool hanging with the straight guys, they have tons of info, but i don’t know if it helps us out? i have mentioned how females seem to find me smelling way good with my a314/the edge mix , and as much as i love the girls for friends i am curious what makes the guys more friendly to us guys? and no, not the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) that others think trick the straight guys into being gay!! 😉 please give me some feedback! i’m trying to seduce my other half of five years! i know there is the ‘mystery boy’ selection but i am not trying to appear ‘young and shining’. just sexy. i am me either way but i like to keep some intrigue with my partner…and some of the other pheromones i’ve purchased don’t seem to affect him…chikara, the edge, a314, tuth. any input here?

j.  
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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 5:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784/2 "2007-03-28T05:33:22Z")

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Have you check out Mystery Boy?

“Mystery Boy” Pheromone Party Cologne for Gay Men :: [Spray Pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/spray-pheromones/) :: Androtics Direct/SmartMones ([Mystery Boy – Pheromone Party Cologne for Gay Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/))

You might want to try an Instant sexiness and A314 combination as well.

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**Author:** ![vanyel5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vanyel5/32/416_2.png) [@vanyel5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vanyel5)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 5:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784/3 "2007-03-28T05:42:44Z")

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**hey toil,  
yes, check out my thread there, i haven’t tried mystery boy but i don’t want to be that ‘clubby’ gay guy that the arrangement seems to invoke, at least in my mind. from what i read of the description it doesn’t describe who i am. although i am tempted just for the ‘dark’ arrangement of it..i am absolutely in love with musc ravageur! it is the sexiest unisex fragrance ever! i just want my other half to find me hot and sexy…the a314 and ‘the edge’ and tuth didn’t seem to do squat for him so i wonder what to try now…  
j.**

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 5:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784/4 "2007-03-28T05:47:08Z")

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Try p93. It has a nice male bonding vibe with a friendly opening up to you tone as well.. Couple it with shine and openness, as it’s not inviting by it’s self.

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**Author:** ![vanyel5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vanyel5/32/416_2.png) [@vanyel5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vanyel5)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 5:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784/5 "2007-03-28T05:48:11Z")

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> [@toilofday](#):
>
> Have you check out Mystery Boy?
> 
> “Mystery Boy” Pheromone Party Cologne for Gay Men :: Spray Pheromones :: Androtics Direct/SmartMones ([Mystery Boy – Pheromone Party Cologne for Gay Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/))
> 
> You might want to try an Instant sexiness and A314 combination as well.

**just wanted to add that i don’t think [instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) wouldn’t work as my other half wouldn’t be drawn to the female aspects of sexiness. that is why i tried chikara, a314, the edge, and tuth thinking he would respond to ‘male’ signals… but i do sincerely say thanks for the ideas!  
j.**

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 6:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784/6 "2007-03-28T06:01:50Z")

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Instant jerk might work for you. Copulins would increase there testosterone, then you’d have the strong -none signiture to boot.

Get them worked up, then slap them with some raw sexuality.

I don’t know much about gay men though.

I just found this thread where MHarris himself gives out some information on gay men and pheromones.

From what i’ve read mystery boy may still be up your ally.

MHarris said it has some shine and spaceland elements. I’m assuming that means it has a lot of alpha androstenol.

I’m pretty sure that’s your life of the party thing. It’s more social than what I feel you are viewing it as.

> [@Has anyone used the gay pheromone "Mystery Boy" for Gay Men?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-anyone-used-the-gay-pheromone-mystery-boy-for-gay-men/564):
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> ([https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/))What would be its effects applied on a heterosexual male?

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**Author:** ![Matthew1982ct](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/matthew1982ct/32/1157_2.png) [@Matthew1982ct](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matthew1982ct)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 6:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784/7 "2007-03-28T06:02:48Z")

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> [@vanyel5](#):
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> **okay, for all you happily and openly gay guys…what do you find working for you? it’s cool hanging with the straight guys, they have tons of info, but i don’t know if it helps us out? i have mentioned how females seem to find me smelling way good with my A314/the edge mix , and as much as i love the girls for friends i am curious what makes the guys more friendly to us guys? and no, not the pheromones that others think trick the straight guys into being gay!! 😉 please give me some feedback! i’m trying to seduce my other half of five years! i know there is the ‘mystery boy’ selection but i am not trying to appear ‘young and shining’. just sexy. i am me either way but i like to keep some intrigue with my partner…and some of the other pheromones i’ve purchased don’t seem to affect him…chikara, the edge, A314, Turn Up The Heat. any input here?**
> 
> **j.**

I would check out JVKohl’s website - sure I remember him having some stuff on male-to-male attraction on a pheromonal/biological/chemical/brain chemistry level there. Hope that helps.

Matt

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**Author:** ![vanyel5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vanyel5/32/416_2.png) [@vanyel5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vanyel5)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784/8 "2007-03-28T06:07:36Z")

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> [@toilofday](#):
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> Instant jerk might work for you. Copulins would increase there testosterone, then you’d have the strong -none signiture to boot.
> 
> Get them worked up, then slap them with some raw sexuality.
> 
> I don’t know much about gay men though.
> 
> I just found this thread where MHarris himself gives out some information on gay men and pheromones.
> 
> From what i’ve read mystery boy may still be up your ally.
> 
> MHarris said it has some shine and spaceland elements. I’m assuming that means it has a lot of alpha androstenol.
> 
> I’m pretty sure that’s your life of the party thing. It’s more social than what I feel you are viewing it as.
> 
> [Has anyone used the gay pheromone "Mystery Boy" for Gay Men?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/has-anyone-used-the-gay-pheromone-mystery-boy-for-gay-men/564)

**hmmm…party thing…nope…i am very boring and homebodied…but maybe i will give it a try..guess this pheromone stuff is really about experimenting…at least as far as our budgets allow! don’t really want to ‘shine’ but perhaps it’s what i need…i definitely appreciate your input though…please don’t feel i’m shooting down any theories..as far as men being attracted to men…my take would be that pheromones that would attract females would attract males(though i have doubts about copulins) as even gay males are looking for ‘men’.  
j.**

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 6:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784/9 "2007-03-28T06:18:32Z")

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> [@vanyel5](#):
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> **hmmm…party thing…nope…i am very boring and homebodied…but maybe i will give it a try..guess this pheromone stuff is really about experimenting…at least as far as our budgets allow! don’t really want to ‘shine’ but perhaps it’s what i need…i definitely appreciate your input though…please don’t feel i’m shooting down any theories..as far as men being attracted to men…my take would be that pheromones that would attract females would attract males(though i have doubts about copulins) as even gay males are looking for ‘men’.**  
> **j.**

I don’t think you are shooting me down in the least. I hope you don’t think i’m being argumentative.

Life of the party is in this respect is a little different than sexual life of the party.

alphanol is chatty inviting and friendly. shine is just a fun [pheromone](https://a314.com/).

I don’t think you’ll be dissapointed. I doubt you will find much that doesn’t utalize the same concept.

Copulins were just a though, but I don’t think a gay man’s body chemistry would be different than a heterosexuals chemistry. Copulins attract men, and boost testosterone by 150%. They may be more benificial than you think…or not. Cops can actualy scare away heterosexual women which is an interesting side note.

I think if a gay man had copulins on another gay man may find it intoxicating because the attractant is on what they like.

Oh. Look into Tal. It made a couple girls suspect some testers of being gay.

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**Author:** ![vanyel5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vanyel5/32/416_2.png) [@vanyel5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vanyel5)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 6:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784/10 "2007-03-28T06:25:13Z")

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oh wow,  
no way i think you’re being argumentative toilofday, you’re just offering feedback and i tremendously appreciate it. my thought is that copulins ‘turn on’ men in the sense that they are sensing a ‘female in heat’. we gay guys like the smell of an alpha male moreso than of a female! we are hardwired to be attracted sexually to men so any signals that would be considered female would probably be lost on us…if you think about it..if i gave off alpha male signals that wouldn’t turn you on…you’re not wired to like guys like that…it would cause a different reaction in you…perhaps challenging or perhaps commanding respect…but defintely would not arouse you sexually…that is my train of thought…so vice versa for cop’s …i’m not wired to like girls so their sexual signals would be lost on me and my kin.  
j.  
oh..and due to your suggestion i am ordering the mystery boy as we speak!

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 6:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784/11 "2007-03-28T06:30:52Z")

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That makes more sence. Once again, I don’t know much about gay guys. 😛

I think you will like [Mystery Boy](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/). It sounds like a fun light, happy, fun mix. Even if you are a homebody, you and you targets like to have fun. I hope I didn’t end up stearing you wrong.

If you don’t like it I might buy the partial bottle off of you. I’d like to test it with a larger dose of -none added into it.

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**Author:** ![vanyel5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vanyel5/32/416_2.png) [@vanyel5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vanyel5)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 6:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784/12 "2007-03-28T06:41:46Z")

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i’ll keep that in mind(about the product should i not like it)! seriously thank you for taking my post seriously…but really..where are the leftovers from your dinner pics??😃  
as far as us gays go…i figure what attracts females to men is what would attract men to men..except for cop’s.  
of course the lack of response to my pheromones could be due to my partner’s shortage of testosterone(he had testicular cancer and between losing a testicle and chemo it ripped up his system)…he does say he has no real sex drive…theoretically if there is no sex drive there is no response to others’ signals..i’ll keep trying though! but whatever…he likes me whether he finds me sexual or not so i am lucky in that regard. but again, thanks for being cool and serious with responses, i wasn’t sure what to expect…i wish i could rep ya but i’ve done it so much it’s telling me to spread it around! damn bossy program! 😃  
joseph

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 6:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784/13 "2007-03-28T06:54:09Z")

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Get that guy some andro supliments or some synthetic testosterone.

I just sent in salive at home lab test for testosterone levels. I had a severe hernia when I was young and had an operation. I still have a 5 inch scar from it.

My sex drive is there, but I have weight I can’t drop no matter what I do.

I had to be in the hardest condition program in the state for wresting to drop my weight.

Being a 3 year starter for the football team just didn’t cut it.

It’s started to get more difficult to drop small amounts of weight so I suspect my natural testosterone levels are begining to drop a little with age as i’m nearly 23 on top of suspected low levels.

I’m eager to see the results.

Here’s the link if your interested. You fill a tube with saliva, put it back in the package and they give you a return medical envelope with UPS label.

[Hormone Test Kits - Saliva](http://www.johnleemd.com/store/prod_stest.html)

Thanks for the rep anyway 🙂

As for the you being taken serioulsy. I’ve seen a pretty positive repsonce to gay men on the forum. There are a few haters, but I guess some people are always going to be like that.

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**Author:** ![jpballerina](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jpballerina/32/1004_2.png) [@jpballerina](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jpballerina)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 7:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784/14 "2007-03-28T07:31:52Z")

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> [@vanyel5](#):
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> **some of the other pheromones i’ve purchased don’t seem to affect him…chikara, the edge, A314, Turn Up The Heat. any input here?**

Gay pheromones is such a new and undiscovered territory—you are truly a pioneer! My only question is: of the products you listed above, did any of them do anything for _you_? Have any of the products turned _you_ on? If not, that is what I would start looking for first. If something does, maybe play with more or less of it with your SO and see if you can get a rise out of him.

I have no idea what to specifically recommend—I wouldn’t be surprised if there is some undiscovered [pheromone for men](https://phero.com/) to attract men. Pheromones are already a new field but don’t give up! As you’re attracted to each other, _some_ kind of sexual pheromone is being released naturally, right? Therefore, _something_ will work. We just have to find it . . . 🙄

xoxo  
jp

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**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 12:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784/15 "2007-03-28T12:38:38Z")

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> [@vanyel5](#):
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> i’ll keep that in mind(about the product should i not like it)! seriously thank you for taking my post seriously…but really..where are the leftovers from your dinner pics??😃  
> as far as us gays go…i figure what attracts females to men is what would attract men to men..except for cop’s.  
> of course the lack of response to my pheromones could be due to my partner’s shortage of testosterone(he had testicular cancer and between losing a testicle and chemo it ripped up his system)…he does say he has no real sex drive…theoretically if there is no sex drive there is no response to others’ signals..i’ll keep trying though! but whatever…he likes me whether he finds me sexual or not so i am lucky in that regard. but again, thanks for being cool and serious with responses, i wasn’t sure what to expect…i wish i could rep ya but i’ve done it so much it’s telling me to spread it around! damn bossy program! 😃  
> joseph

Hey Joseph, check out my post here

> [@what else works??](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602):
>
> other than stuff from androtics and pherlure, are any products any good?? i hear a lot of “the edge” and “scent of eros”. im sure theres too few good ones available to test everything.

There is something else for you to try!

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 2:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784/16 "2007-03-28T14:06:22Z")

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> [@Is Mystery Boy sexually charged or just friendly, and is it useful in a mix?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mystery-boy/1042):
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> Came across this gay-orientated product on the store’s website. Does anyone know if it’s gay: heavily sexually spiked or gay: girl’s love me as a “friend”? confused The freebies that come with it seem like a good deal too! Was thinking it could make a useful addition to a mix - if only to add that mysterious element to your aura. Matt

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**Author:** ![vanyel5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vanyel5/32/416_2.png) [@vanyel5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vanyel5)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 3:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784/17 "2007-03-28T15:51:12Z")

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> [@jpballerina](#):
>
> Gay pheromones is such a new and undiscovered territory—you are truly a pioneer! My only question is: of the products you listed above, did any of them do anything for _you_? Have any of the products turned _you_ on? If not, that is what I would start looking for first. If something does, maybe play with more or less of it with your SO and see if you can get a rise out of him.
> 
> I have no idea what to specifically recommend—I wouldn’t be surprised if there is some undiscovered pheromone for men to attract men. Pheromones are already a new field but don’t give up! As you’re attracted to each other, _some_ kind of sexual pheromone is being released naturally, right? Therefore, _something_ will work. We just have to find it . . . 🙄
> 
> xoxo  
> jp

hi jp,  
i have to say that i do think the products i am using do something for me…i posted a while back about i thought they were “turning me on to myself”. as for a314 i use i don’t know if it is the product or placebo effect but when i have it on i do seem to feel calm and in control but not domineering. whichever way, i’ll take it! i think due to his problems with out of whack hormones from going thru chemo a few years ago and losing one of his testicles that he may not be picking up the signals i’m sending. i should try something more like the instant shine or instant openness to test him for a response i guess. oh well…thank you for your input on it though…all is appreciated!!  
joseph

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**Author:** ![vanyel5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vanyel5/32/416_2.png) [@vanyel5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vanyel5)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784/18 "2007-03-28T16:03:00Z")

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> [@toilofday](#):
>
> Get that guy some andro supliments or some synthetic testosterone.
> 
> I just sent in salive at home lab test for testosterone levels. I had a severe hernia when I was young and had an operation. I still have a 5 inch scar from it.
> 
> My sex drive is there, but I have weight I can’t drop no matter what I do.
> 
> I had to be in the hardest condition program in the state for wresting to drop my weight.
> 
> Being a 3 year starter for the football team just didn’t cut it.
> 
> It’s started to get more difficult to drop small amounts of weight so I suspect my natural testosterone levels are begining to drop a little with age as i’m nearly 23 on top of suspected low levels.
> 
> I’m eager to see the results.
> 
> Here’s the link if your interested. You fill a tube with saliva, put it back in the package and they give you a return medical envelope with UPS label.
> 
> [Hormone Test Kits - Saliva](http://www.johnleemd.com/store/prod_stest.html)
> 
> Thanks for the rep anyway 🙂
> 
> As for the you being taken serioulsy. I’ve seen a pretty positive repsonce to gay men on the forum. There are a few haters, but I guess some people are always going to be like that.

nearly 23 on top of suspected low levels? do you mean you’re turning 23? i would think your hormones would be safe for a few years…mine seemed to start waning in my early 30’s for whatever reason. i’m definitely not saying you don’t have low ‘t’ at all though…if you’re seeing unusual signs like that with gaining body weight inexplicably(barring lots of booze, or not being as physically active as say two years ago). but if you are a healthy, moderately indulgent 22/23 year old you’re right, you shouldn’t have trouble losing weight pretty quickly. let me know how your results turn out.

what will you do if they come back low? do you have a doc you can go to and get an rx for it? and my advice…get the gel, patches always peeled off of me, and shots are not a steady dosing, you get a major surge of ‘t’ but then it is supposed to stabilize, gel is easy to rub on to various areas of the body, dries quickly and provides perfect time release dosing. good luck with your test there(no pun intended!).  
j.

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784/19 "2007-03-28T16:19:16Z")

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Yeah, I have a doctor, and was considering the gell.

Go out on the weekends, I eat healthy (but not crazy healthy), and I use an eliptical for 45 minutes 3-4 times a week.

I actualy hope it comes back with low levels. It could get me off some meds i’m taking. Booo Meds! 😛

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**Author:** ![thr3shold](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thr3shold/32/2316_2.png) [@thr3shold](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thr3shold)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-a-thread-not-covered-gay-pheromones/2784/20 "2007-03-28T16:28:36Z")

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Have you talked with Ron? He seemed to be very knowledgeable with pheromones and their tete a tete interactions vis a vis men.

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