# Here's my novel idea... requesting feedback!!!!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [March 27, 2007, 5:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765 "2007-03-27T05:23:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 5:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765/1 "2007-03-27T05:23:51Z")

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What do you guys think of the following…  
coming into a club and acting as a cologne promoter?  
My intention would be to approach women and say the following:  
Me: “Hello, I’m promoting Cologne X, have you heard of it?”  
Woman: (probably not)  
Me: “Well, we are taking a survey on women’s opinions of this new brand of Cologne X that we’ll be releasing!”  
Woman: “Okk…”  
Then.. you stick the to go bottle of ammo right under her nose 🙂.  
Will this work? hahah

Feedback? Maybe this approach is too lengthy.. maybe shorten to something simply like “I’m seeking a woman’s opinion of this new cologne I’m using…” etc.

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 5:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765/2 "2007-03-27T05:40:33Z")

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Good idea, but there is an easier method where you don’t have to protray a false persona.

put a spray of ammo on 1 wrist, and a feel good [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) like openness or shine on the other wrist covered with a cologne of your choosing.

You tell the girls that you trying to see which collogne will attract the most attention. Hand them a pen, smell your own wrist (to assure their subconsious that you aren’t tricking with them), then have them smell both wrists. When they pick, have them put a tally mark on the that wrist. Then you also achieve hand kino.

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**Author:** ![Quicksilver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/quicksilver/32/1328_2.png) [@Quicksilver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Quicksilver)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 5:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765/3 "2007-03-27T05:43:34Z")

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> [@smn1234](#):
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> What do you guys think of the following…  
> coming into a club and acting as a cologne promoter?  
> My intention would be to approach women and say the following:  
> Me: “Hello, I’m promoting Cologne X, have you heard of it?”  
> Woman: (probably not)  
> Me: “Well, we are taking a survey on women’s opinions of this new brand of Cologne X that we’ll be releasing!”  
> Woman: “Okk…”  
> Then.. you stick the to go bottle of ammo right under her nose 🙂.  
> Will this work? hahah
> 
> Feedback? Maybe this approach is too lengthy.. maybe shorten to something simply like “I’m seeking a woman’s opinion of this new cologne I’m using…” etc.

A couple weeks back I think someone was suggesting a spray of Turn Up The Heat on one wrist, and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) on the other, then going around and asking women which one they prefer. Use double strength (or more) and spray less, so they have to try harder to smell the cologne (thus getting more pheros in their nose.)

Since it’s been brought up before, I think people generally will consider that a good idea.

Cheers,

🆒 Quicksilver

P.S. have you read: [College project idea: test copulins on male students with a fake cologne trial](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggested-college-project-get-an-a-and-have-fun-doing-it/2752/1)

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 5:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765/4 "2007-03-27T05:53:44Z")

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Quicksilver, the only conflict I see with using your aproach is having 2 -none based products.

While -none is sometimes an anosmic scent, it does smell like cat piss. Women have a 40% stronger sence of smell then men and some are very sensative to -none. You may actualy scare them away if you don’t throw something happy at them. They may also see you as a sexual preditor given such a strong signiture straight to the nose. Think of it like an OD.

In a study I read, a scent with -none in levels that were undetactable by normal scent reception were almost always said to smell worse than the same scent without -none. I’ll see if I can find the artical again.

haha, we posted that at the same time. Classic 🆒

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**Author:** ![Quicksilver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/quicksilver/32/1328_2.png) [@Quicksilver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Quicksilver)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 6:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765/5 "2007-03-27T06:04:49Z")

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> [@toilofday](#):
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> Quicksilver, the only conflict I see with using your aproach is having 2 -none based products.
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> You may actualy scare them away if you don’t throw something happy at them.
> 
> In a study I read, a scent with -none in levels that were undetactable by normal scent reception were almost always said to smell worse than the same scent without -none. I’ll see if I can find the article again.
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> haha, we posted that at the same time. Classic 🆒

Yeah, personally I’d use [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) first on one, then Ammo on the other.

I’d like to see that article. Why? I just ordered 4x Ammo custom made for me. The intent is to mix some Athena and Instant Honesty 4x unscented into it, and then use four dabs and have that be enough.

If a situation presents itself, I can apply some in the bathroom, and come out without being obvious that I just put some cologne on. If the scent is light enough, it’s assumed that there was scented soap in there. this keeps reactions subconscious rather than conscious.

Cheers,

🆒 Quicksilver

On the other hand, if I’m using Ammo 4x, does this mean I need to hide from Lor? 😃

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**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 6:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765/6 "2007-03-27T06:42:03Z")

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I only have [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), Instant Openess, Instant Shine, and Ammo (reg strength)

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**Author:** ![Quicksilver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/quicksilver/32/1328_2.png) [@Quicksilver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Quicksilver)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 6:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765/7 "2007-03-27T06:53:12Z")

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> [@smn1234](#):
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> I only have Instant Female Magic, Instant Openess, Instant Shine, and Ammo (reg strength)

Your choice, guy. Maybe [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and Ammo, per toilofday’s suggestion, then.

Cheers,

🆒 Quicksilver

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**Author:** ![Oldman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b2d939/32.png) [@Oldman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Oldman)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 6:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765/8 "2007-03-27T06:56:05Z")

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Is your dream man, “Quick Silver”?? Are you a Fag or a woman?

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 8:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765/9 "2007-03-27T08:38:18Z")

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> [@Oldman](#):
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> Is your dream man, “Quick Silver”?? Are you a Fag or a woman?

I’m not sure what you are trying to say by this, but I find it pretty inapropriate.

Please refrain from derogitory comments.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 12:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765/10 "2007-03-27T12:56:01Z")

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> [@smn1234](#):
>
> What do you guys think of the following…  
> coming into a club and acting as a cologne promoter?  
> My intention would be to approach women and say the following:  
> Me: “Hello, I’m promoting Cologne X, have you heard of it?”  
> Woman: (probably not)  
> Me: “Well, we are taking a survey on women’s opinions of this new brand of Cologne X that we’ll be releasing!”  
> Woman: “Okk…”  
> Then.. you stick the to go bottle of ammo right under her nose 🙂.  
> Will this work? hahah
> 
> Feedback? Maybe this approach is too lengthy.. maybe shorten to something simply like “I’m seeking a woman’s opinion of this new cologne I’m using…” etc.

yeah, but you have to explain that its too smoky in there to get a good smell.  
maybe she ought to give it a whiff in your car…

or

you could spray it on your neck, and then tell the target that a gal pal of yours says its too _fill in the blank_ …

😉

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765/11 "2007-03-27T15:10:47Z")

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> [@toilofday](#):
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> I’m not sure what you are trying to say by this, but I find it pretty inapropriate.
> 
> Please refrain from derogitory comments.

Is somebody mean haunting the forum? Do I need to cut another lemon in three for you. Although this time the ill effects of the venomous will be well suited to be sent back threefold. Look out here comes the sun!

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 3:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765/12 "2007-03-27T15:19:47Z")

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> [@steveo](#):
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> Is somebody mean haunting the forum? Do I need to cut another lemon in three for you. Although this time the ill effects of the venomous will be well suited to be sent back threefold. Look out here comes the sun!

not for nothing, but i think its a wonderful idea to PM people that leave something nasty and ask them what has upset them ,and here’s why:

its OKAY to disagree, and neg repping done right can be a nice way of saying _uncool_.

of course leaving a **nasty** message _is never ok._

do the math and make sure that stuff matches 🙂  
or makesure the message matches the wearer,there are just somethings i personally do not utter.😉

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**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 3:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765/13 "2007-03-27T15:25:37Z")

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Steveo, I was actually wondering what you had to say about my idea..

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 3:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765/14 "2007-03-27T15:26:24Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> not for nothing, but i think its a wonderful idea to PM people that leave something nasty and ask them what has upset them ,and here’s why:
> 
> its OKAY to disagree, and neg repping done right can be a nice way of saying _uncool_.
> 
> of course leaving a **nasty** message _is never ok._
> 
> do the math and make sure that stuff matches 🙂  
> or makesure the message matches the wearer,there are just somethings i personally do not utter.😉

You know Lor, it would be a novel idea, except that this is the third thread I read this hateful person cursing people, using derogitory names, using sexual inuendo to label persons and to top it off, it was obviously bad enough that ALL this persons posts were deleted.

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**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 3:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765/15 "2007-03-27T15:30:00Z")

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OK.. I don’t mean to be selfish but can all the irrelevant posts be deleted please?

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765/16 "2007-03-27T15:43:01Z")

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I actually like the idea of using the promotion better than the smell my cologne idea. I say this because the cologne on arm is SO played out. It’s a very old trick that’s been around for ever and many are accustomed to it. Get yourself some of those little spray tester cards and take the labels off the bottles. Mark card A and Bottle A and same with B.

I wouldn’t say I was promoting though, as Toil suggested, I would say I’m researching for a school project. After all the forum is kind of a school and we are the students. If the girl is really interested in what it is you are spraying you could always right your name and number/email on the card and this way she has a scent with her that she associates with you…

Get it? Sneaky that SteveO is!

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**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 3:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765/17 "2007-03-27T15:49:09Z")

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haha gotcha 🙂. Well, I have exams all this and next week. I was wondering if anyone’d wanna test this out in the field? Plus, what’s the possibility that the subject chooses the instant X over the ammo and that’s it… no other reactions… lol 🙂

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 3:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765/18 "2007-03-27T15:54:15Z")

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Anything is possible

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**Author:** ![Oldman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b2d939/32.png) [@Oldman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Oldman)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 9:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765/19 "2007-03-27T21:18:12Z")

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Stevo,

“This person” was probably me. And yup, I did curse a specific individual and I replied in like manner to another indivdual.

It’s a shame that I have to explain this. Please don’t defend a person that got what they deserved.

Please don’t get involved in someone else’s arguement. This amazes me…a site regular provokes a fight by providing negative comments via an unwarrented rebuke or reprimand of a specific individual in a conversation that does not involve them but that they somehow perceive to require their specific intellect and authoritative wisdom.

Stay out of it…This “Tift” was between me and the person that started this. If the person attacking me had the Gaul to attack/reprimand me in a conversation that did not concern them and was not directed towards them in the first place, then that person should be able to handle anything he/she receives in response to sticking their uninvited nose into someone else’s argument without additional backup from his or her little girlfriends..

This type of involvement reflects small mindedness and childishness and reminds me of the catty little girls in Junior high school teaming up against someone they perceive to be weaker or different and don’t like…My God. I saw this type of “teamwork” in the office sitting among adults as wel,l before I retired…Pitiful…

I truly do not understand why people feel the urge to jump into arguments between two other individuals that does not concern them for the purpose of delivering their “two cents” worth of reprimands or catty remarks. Why not just let the two people that are originally involved hash it out? It usually does work out when others don’t get involved.

Unfortunately, and in keeping with the average group mentality, this specific incident has moved beyond that point and has developed/degraded into the junior high school level situation…people offering help to others and keeping the fire lit in a conversation or argument that does not concern them. Amazing.

I saw one comment since this started that was an intelligent comment. Lor stated that she thought it may be a good idea to provide a means to converse with people that become upset to find out what exactly caused them to get upset…that’s a good idea…most emotionally stable people don’t become angry for the purpose of causing trouble…although I have met some that do.

Lor, my complimenting your intelligence and your idea is not an effort to recruit you. Not that you would think it was an effor to recruit you; but in the past it seems when someone does have something positive to contribute in situations like this and receives a compliment for it by the one being attacked, the person receiving the compliment feels they need to make it clear that they are not taking sides…of course with this crowd, that point may need to be made.

So Steveo, I have no argument with you; however, if you feel you need to join in a conversation that does not require you input and provide reprimands for the either the language I used or my style of defending myself, I will respond.

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**Author:** ![Matthew1982ct](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/matthew1982ct/32/1157_2.png) [@Matthew1982ct](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matthew1982ct)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-my-novel-idea-requesting-feedback/2765/20 "2007-03-28T04:57:58Z")

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> [@smn1234](#):
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> What do you guys think of the following…  
> coming into a club and acting as a cologne promoter?  
> My intention would be to approach women and say the following:  
> Me: “Hello, I’m promoting Cologne X, have you heard of it?”  
> Woman: (probably not)  
> Me: “Well, we are taking a survey on women’s opinions of this new brand of Cologne X that we’ll be releasing!”  
> Woman: “Okk…”  
> Then.. you stick the to go bottle of ammo right under her nose 🙂.  
> Will this work? hahah
> 
> Feedback? Maybe this approach is too lengthy.. maybe shorten to something simply like “I’m seeking a woman’s opinion of this new cologne I’m using…” etc.

Someone on the love-scent forum did something similar, although they just went to a mall and asked girl’s their opinion on SOE, Chikara and The Edge. SOE got the best response. Both on the scent and in terms of body language/eye contact/etc. Give it a try, can’t hurt.

Matthew

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