# Here's one you younger guys might like: **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 28, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-one-you-younger-guys-might-like/43604 "2010-11-28T20:54:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-one-you-younger-guys-might-like/43604/1 "2010-11-28T20:54:51Z")
**CORE** 2x [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) 2x Instant Shine 2x Instant Honesty **OPTIONAL ADDONS** 1-2x TUTH P83 I’ve been working on this one for awhile, and I think it’s dynamite. Highly effective, without being over complicated. The IG is really what the whole mix is built around; it’s the heart. It makes you likable, charming, funny, and higher status. It also gives off a sense of masculine warmth, and who doesn’t like that? Not to mention it softens all that blasted -None we’re pumping out. Shine is meant to do two things: take the serious vibe you might give yourself from IG and balance it out, and to make others around you happier and in a good mood. Crucial. Instant Honesty is just as important here. I went over this one a lot in constructing the mix. Instant Openness, while great, seems to cripple the IG just a bit too much. So, Honesty all the way. On top of feeling good around you and thinking you’re the coolest guy in the world, and quite possibly very attractive even at this point, IH will add a depth to your conversations. You have to initiate the communication yourself, but the tiniest things you say to someone will be have the emotional equivalent of if your favorite celebrity crush wrote you a nice personal letter, or something similar. And, if you wanna take it further, there are addons (read: not necessary). But depending on what you wanna do, these can help a lot. Let’s start with TUTH. You wouldn’t wear this around younger girls normally, since you’re already making a ton of the pheromone in this spray (Androstenone) naturally with your hormonal little body, and most girls are scared off by it anyway. But, I believe that one or two sprays can help things along IF YOU’VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED A CONNECTION! If you know that a girl has already been attracted to you, then I see no reason you can’t at least try this out once and see what happens. (Hint: the “Core” mix should make any logical thinking young female attracted, so you can see it as a stepping stone to the TUTH, if you like) And P83… To be honest, I’m new to this one and have very little understanding of it. I’m still trying to find my sweet spot! But, I think once you and I have a handle on it, it can help a lot. Here are the common occurrences other users here have associated with it: 1 🙂 disinhibits people 2 🙂 amplifies the overall effects of other pheromones 3 🙂 makes girls more flirty Obviously these are all plusses. The only potential problem from P83 I’ve heard of is that it can amplify emotions as well. So, if you or someone else is mad, then this putative might push that more to the forefront. The core mix should have others pretty happy, so if you can keep yourself in check, I think you could do fine! Let’s see how you do. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![chibulls447](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chibulls447/32/1384_2.png) [@chibulls447](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chibulls447)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 2:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-one-you-younger-guys-might-like/43604/2 "2010-11-29T02:09:07Z")
Hey man, I gotta agree that IG is gold for high school guys like you and me. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is hit and miss for me, but IG seems to work pretty well. What makes you say that IO cripples the IG? I’ve had plenty of hits with those two used together. I haven’t yet tried IG with IH, so I’ll have to get on that, although I have had success with both IO and IH individually. Also, what mcg of P83 are you using? I’ve wanted to try it for a while but I haven’t gotten around to ordering it yet. It sounds like an awesome putative, but I would have no idea where to start with it. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 2:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-one-you-younger-guys-might-like/43604/3 "2010-11-29T02:13:56Z")
> [@Noble](#): > > **CORE** > 2x Instant Gentleman > 2x Instant Shine > 2x Instant Honesty > > **OPTIONAL ADDONS** > 1-2x TUTH > P83 > > I’ve been working on this one for awhile, and I think it’s dynamite. Highly effective, without being over complicated. > > The IG is really what the whole mix is built around; it’s the heart. It makes you likable, charming, funny, and higher status. It also gives off a sense of masculine warmth, and who doesn’t like that? Not to mention it softens all that blasted -None we’re pumping out. > > Shine is meant to do two things: take the serious vibe you might give yourself from IG and balance it out, and to make others around you happier and in a good mood. Crucial. > > Instant Honesty is just as important here. I went over this one a lot in constructing the mix. Instant Openness, while great, seems to cripple the IG just a bit too much. So, Honesty all the way. On top of feeling good around you and thinking you’re the coolest guy in the world, and quite possibly very attractive even at this point, IH will add a depth to your conversations. You have to initiate the communication yourself, but the tiniest things you say to someone will be have the emotional equivalent of if your favorite celebrity crush wrote you a nice personal letter, or something similar. > > And, if you wanna take it further, there are addons (read: not necessary). But depending on what you wanna do, these can help a lot. > > Let’s start with TUTH. You wouldn’t wear this around younger girls normally, since you’re already making a ton of the pheromone in this spray (Androstenone) naturally with your hormonal little body, and most girls are scared off by it anyway. But, I believe that one or two sprays can help things along IF YOU’VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED A CONNECTION! If you know that a girl has already been attracted to you, then I see no reason you can’t at least try this out once and see what happens. (Hint: the “Core” mix should make any logical thinking young female attracted, so you can see it as a stepping stone to the TUTH, if you like) > > And P83… To be honest, I’m new to this one and have very little understanding of it. I’m still trying to find my sweet spot! But, I think once you and I have a handle on it, it can help a lot. Here are the common occurrences other users here have associated with it: > > 1 🙂 disinhibits people > 2 🙂 amplifies the overall effects of other pheromones > 3 🙂 makes girls more flirty > > Obviously these are all plusses. The only potential problem from P83 I’ve heard of is that it can amplify emotions as well. So, if you or someone else is mad, then this putative might push that more to the forefront. The core mix should have others pretty happy, so if you can keep yourself in check, I think you could do fine! > > Let’s see how you do. 🙂 Amplification is more like P79, it may seem effects are amplified cause of the disinhibitor effects of P83 ---
**Author:** ![LoveDocta](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lovedocta/32/993_2.png) [@LoveDocta](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LoveDocta)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-one-you-younger-guys-might-like/43604/4 "2010-11-29T02:41:21Z")
i am going to try this since i had very good results with 2 sprays of ig with 2 sprays tuth man i cant wait for my p83 to arrive ---
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 2:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-one-you-younger-guys-might-like/43604/5 "2010-11-29T02:49:56Z")
> [@chibulls447](#): > > Hey man, I gotta agree that IG is gold for high school guys like you and me. Ammo is hit and miss for me, but IG seems to work pretty well. > > What makes you say that IO cripples the IG? I’ve had plenty of hits with those two used together. I haven’t yet tried IG with IH, so I’ll have to get on that, although I have had success with both IO and IH individually. > > Also, what mcg of P83 are you using? I’ve wanted to try it for a while but I haven’t gotten around to ordering it yet. It sounds like an awesome putative, but I would have no idea where to start with it. Maybe “cripple” is a bit too strong of a word. Here’s what I meant: IG makes you into this very strong, masculine, great guy, boyfriend-material type of image. It can and often WILL be kind of intimidating. The natural response to this contingency by someone with some pheromone experience would most likely be, “let’s throw some IO in there to make me more approachable!”. And I think it will do just that; but I have a theory that the added approachability would drive down some of Gentleman’s effects, which are essential to have. I’m thinking mainly of the “status” part suffering here. Instant Shine should be good enough to fill the role of what [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) would, without the risk of having others walking all over you while you’re trying to be a sexy guy. 🆒 It’s also important to remember that IG is basically a more approachable, friendlier version of A314, so overall approachability shouldn’t be much of a concern, really. And, I have a 12.5 mcg to-go of P83. I’ve tried 1 spray and 2 sprays. Haven’t noticed much difference or anything out of the ordinary. I’ll try again tomorrow, however. I’ll keep upping the dose until I see _something_. (haha, I sound like the guy at the end of that old “Stinkfist” song 😉) ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-one-you-younger-guys-might-like/43604/6 "2010-11-29T02:52:26Z")
> [@Noble](#): > > Maybe “cripple” is a bit too strong of a word. Here’s what I meant: > > IG makes you into this very strong, masculine, great guy, boyfriend-material type of image. It can and often WILL be kind of intimidating. The natural response to this contingency by someone with some pheromone experience would most likely be, “let’s throw some IO in there to make me more approachable!”. > And I think it will do just that; but I have a theory that the added approachability would drive down some of Gentleman’s effects, which are essential to have. I’m thinking mainly of the “status” part suffering here. Instant Shine should be good enough to fill the role of what Instant Openness would, without the risk of having others walking all over you while you’re trying to be a sexy guy. 🆒 > It’s also important to remember that IG is basically a more approachable, friendlier version of A314, so overall approachability shouldn’t be much of a concern, really. > > And, I have a 12.5 mcg to-go of P83. I’ve tried 1 spray and 2 sprays. Haven’t noticed much difference or anything out of the ordinary. I’ll try again tomorrow, however. I’ll keep upping the dose until I see _something_. (haha, I sound like the guy at the end of that old “Stinkfist” song 😉) When I was testing [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) It didn’t work well in environments where it wasn’t socially acceptable to show affection or sexual attraction to someone. You gotta really try this out on a date, or at parties. My baseline test was, if drinking alcoholic beverages would be out of the question, then most likely P83’s effects won’t manifest themselves too much during that. Sometimes girls get the signal and get uncomfortable, they might still have attraction but without the comfort then, it’s useless. ---
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-one-you-younger-guys-might-like/43604/7 "2010-11-29T02:52:42Z")
> [@LoveDocta](#): > > i am going to try this since i had very good results with 2 sprays of ig with 2 sprays tuth > > man i cant wait for my p83 to arrive You’re partially to thank for this one. If not for your report the other day, I swear I wasn’t gonna TOUCH that stuff after the mess I made last time. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-one-you-younger-guys-might-like/43604/8 "2010-11-29T19:55:11Z")
Ok, I have to report! This mix is GOLDEN! I wore it today and broke a ton of those pesky high school social barriers. Lots of touching going on. 😃 Guys, seriously. Use these 3, find your sweet spot with them, and dont be afraid of throwing in an addon. ---
**Author:** ![snipesho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@snipesho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snipesho)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-one-you-younger-guys-might-like/43604/9 "2010-11-29T20:10:02Z")
I wore that pretty much exact mix yesterday. 2x IG, 2x IS, and maybe 3x IH (togo though) and it worked great! It definitely makes people comfortable around you and gives off that masculine warmth sense like you said. This is my go to mix when hanging out in a small group of people or when I hang out with a girl im into. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-one-you-younger-guys-might-like/43604/10 "2010-11-29T21:06:23Z")
IG and Shine alone is a killer combo, I am sure that the IH and whatever else you choose to add only add to it. Great report! IG is a very versatile and somewhat underestimated product. Enjoy it! ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 12:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-one-you-younger-guys-might-like/43604/11 "2010-11-30T00:13:17Z")
> [@Noble](#): > > Ok, I have to report! This mix is GOLDEN! > I wore it today and broke a ton of those pesky high school social barriers. Lots of touching going on. 😃 > > Guys, seriously. Use these 3, find your sweet spot with them, and dont be afraid of throwing in an addon. Don’t leave us hanging like that, Noble One. :o IG:TUTH:P83, or are you talking IG:IS:IH? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 12:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-one-you-younger-guys-might-like/43604/12 "2010-11-30T00:33:03Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > IG:TUTH:P83, or are you talking IG:IS:IH? > > Thanks. Today? I used all five. I used the “core” stuff all at 2 sprays, then 1 spray of TUTH to my chest (covered with a shirt, just to be safe). And as an afterthought, one shot of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) to my left wrist. ---
**Author:** ![Barbakl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/barbakl/32/1216_2.png) [@Barbakl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Barbakl)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-one-you-younger-guys-might-like/43604/13 "2010-11-30T02:56:10Z")
I tried out this mix today and can personally say that it works very well in the high school enviroment. I’d also like to thank you, Noble, for helping me realize that IH does more than increase the overall quality of what’s said to the wearer. I leaned today, firsthand, that it makes everything you say a bit more meaningful, despite how fivolous it may seem. ---
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 8:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-one-you-younger-guys-might-like/43604/14 "2010-11-30T20:41:12Z")
Glad to see other people getting good results as well! I’m a genius! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![jnoel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jnoel/32/650_2.png) [@jnoel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jnoel)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 12:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-one-you-younger-guys-might-like/43604/15 "2011-02-07T12:41:47Z")
good mix, im going to try it out at college wednesday. i havent used p83 too often yet, and if i have its been part of a mix. i use IS everyday as a wake up call and it works beautifully. i used it in a car with my friends one time and we were immediately psyched and ready for anything i think tuth + IG could be a winner by itself, ive gotta try that sometime. but all in all, great mix, and its buffered well thanks to the IH balancing out tuth ---
**Author:** ![Climax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c68b51/32.png) [@Climax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Climax)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-one-you-younger-guys-might-like/43604/16 "2011-02-07T21:32:15Z")
Sounds like you put some good thoughts into this stack, I have Eros, Shine, Ammo, IJ, and Honesty ToGo right now, will order IG and A314 next time and possibly P83… You say the side effect is P83 amplifies emotions including the bad ones? I don’t piss people off so not a big problem, if anything i’d like that as a self effect because i’m just too desensitized and wish I had more emotional response including the bad ones. In my short use of these I get zero self effects from Honesty and IJ.